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  • Sarah_Jayne
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    • Dec 2002
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    #1

    UK folks - America is about to meet Mr. Galloway

    he is about to speak at a U.S. Senate Committee hearing..this should be interesting
  • samsam
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    • Jun 2002
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    #2
    Galloway is ok in my book

    he beat tony blairs party and became a senate or uk senate or whatever with his own political party. thats an achievement

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    • SGS
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      #3
      Not one of Tony Blairs best friends
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      • Sarah_Jayne
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        • Dec 2002
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        #4
        Originally posted by samsam
        Galloway is ok in my book

        he beat tony blairs party and became a senate or uk senate or whatever with his own political party. thats an achievement
        what do you actually know about him?

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        • Tipsy
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          #5
          The right wing are gonna hate him. It may prove interesting to watch.
          Ignorance is never bliss.

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          • European Lee
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            #6
            Originally posted by sarah_webinc
            what do you actually know about him?
            Hahaha judging by his above post? About as much as the average GFY'er knows about intelligence LOL

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            • MGPspots
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              #7
              Originally posted by samsam
              Galloway is ok in my book

              he beat tony blairs party and became a senate or uk senate or whatever with his own political party. thats an achievement
              Holy shit you're thick
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              • Sarah_Jayne
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                • Dec 2002
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                #8
                and the games begin!

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                • Sarah_Jayne
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                  #9
                  btw..have to love how this is on the opening day of parliment too so he couldn't be there

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                  • Sarah_Jayne
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                    #10
                    on the Sky news feed there was a woman behind him making insane faces..amazingly she moved and another woman took her place

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                    • Tim
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                      #11
                      That one court case I'd like to hear. Mr Galloway is always entertaining.
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                      • Sarah_Jayne
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                        #12
                        well...on sky, bbc and no doubt cspan at the moment

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                        • Tipsy
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                          #13
                          www.bbc.co.uk/news has a live feed going. He's not happy is he? 'Puppet government' was probably the smallest insult he used
                          Ignorance is never bliss.

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                          • SGS
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                            #14
                            A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that Mr. Galloway is stupid and he is certainly not.
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                            • Tim
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                              I don't think he'll be too popular with the US administration either somehow.
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                              • MGPspots
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                                #16
                                Yeah watching it now - great stuff. Hate Galloway but gotta say he's good
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                                • Tipsy
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SGS
                                  A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that Mr. Galloway is stupid and he is certainly not.
                                  The short news reports make it hard to judge the guy. This is proving exactly as you say - he's anything but stupid.
                                  Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                  • Sarah_Jayne
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                                    #18
                                    oh, he isn't stupid and he is a fantastic speaker...none of that is in doubt

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                                    • Hornydog4cooter
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                                      #19
                                      He is on fox news now. I must say he is well spoken and very blunt lol. I like this guy

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                                      • Cains
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                        oh, he isn't stupid and he is a fantastic speaker...none of that is in doubt
                                        completely unrelated but can you drop me a mail (in sig)

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                                        • Vendot
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SGS
                                          A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that Mr. Galloway is stupid and he is certainly not.
                                          I'll second that. Galloway can hold his own, very sharp man.

                                          This is serious box office viewing - i doubt the senate have seen many hearings like this one. Refreshing to see someone go up there talk straight and tell it like it is.

                                          Remember this is the guy that beat the Labour party to a consistituency. Infact one of the only constituencies which wasnt taken by one of the three main parties but was won by his own "Respect" political party.
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                                          • Sarah_Jayne
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Cains
                                            completely unrelated but can you drop me a mail (in sig)

                                            sure..will do it right now

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                                            • Sarah_Jayne
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                                              #23
                                              ooooo..handbags

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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                oh, he isn't stupid and he is a fantastic speaker...none of that is in doubt
                                                Whatever you think about what he stands for, he certainly is a great speaker. His winning speech after his victory in the Bethnal Green & Bow constituency was very powerful.

                                                samsam...as per the previous remarks, perhaps you are not sure what he is all about.

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                                                • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by vendot
                                                  I'll second that. Galloway can hold his own, very sharp man.

                                                  This is serious box office viewing - i doubt the senate have seen many hearings like this one. Refreshing to see someone go up there talk straight and tell it like it is.

                                                  Remember this is the guy that beat the Labour party to a consistituency. Infact one of the only constituencies which wasnt taken by one of the three main parties but was won by his own "Respect" political party.
                                                  of course after the Labour party kicked him out and in seat with a highly muslim population

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                                                  • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by sexus
                                                    Whatever you think about what he stands for, he certainly is a great speaker. His winning speech after his victory in the Bethnal Green & Bow constituency was very powerful.

                                                    samsam...as per the previous remarks, perhaps you are not sure what he is all about.

                                                    oh for sure..you can't doubt he really believes in the things he is talking about...for me he takes things too far but as I can understand why he grabs some people by the balls and makes them listen

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                                                    • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                      #27
                                                      well, that was fun

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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                        oh for sure..you can't doubt he really believes in the things he is talking about...for me he takes things too far but as I can understand why he grabs some people by the balls and makes them listen
                                                        Yes.
                                                        Very intelligent man and I would think very manipulative also.
                                                        Over the years there has been some real key speakers in British politics and again whether people agree with what Galloway has done or not, you cannot deny that he is capable of destroying people with his communication skills.

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                                                        • Vendot
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                          of course after the Labour party kicked him out and in seat with a highly muslim population
                                                          It doesnt matter, it was a very strongly held Labour position and its never been done before.

                                                          I really dont think he goes too far. Rather, that few people have the balls to be as outspoken as he is because they know that the dissenting view is the one that tends to get trampled on.

                                                          I also reckon the majority of the british public, if theyre honest with themselves, share the same position he has on Iraq. It is a disaster, and it has been a huge calamity thats not over yet.
                                                          "In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act." - George Orwell

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                                                          • mardigras
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                                                            #30
                                                            If anyone comes across a video of the entire hearing please post the link
                                                            .

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                                                            • Vendot
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by mardigras
                                                              If anyone comes across a video of the entire hearing please post the link
                                                              You missed out.... it was very interesting and very funny at the same time.

                                                              The best thing was when a reporter questioned him as he was leaving something like "Do you think it was appropriate to call the senator a crazed neo-con" to which he nodded and replied something like "He is a crazed neo-con..." before adding two or three other insults to the list.

                                                              Haha... funny bloke.
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                                                              • Vendot
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                If anyone comes across a video of the entire hearing please post the link
                                                                It seems you can see the whole hearing or at least most of his introduction if you click the video thing on this web page:

                                                                http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/p...s/4556113.stm#
                                                                "In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act." - George Orwell

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                                                                • Tim
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  That is interesting
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                                                                  • Rich
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    "I know that standards have slipped over the last few years in Washington but for a lawyer you are remarkably cavalier with any idea of justice."

                                                                    I like this guy.

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                                                                    • evanmorgan
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by vendot
                                                                      I'll second that. Galloway can hold his own, very sharp man.

                                                                      This is serious box office viewing - i doubt the senate have seen many hearings like this one. Refreshing to see someone go up there talk straight and tell it like it is.

                                                                      Remember this is the guy that beat the Labour party to a consistituency. Infact one of the only constituencies which wasnt taken by one of the three main parties but was won by his own "Respect" political party.
                                                                      and we all know how he won it........
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                                                                      • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by evanmorgan
                                                                        and we all know how he won it........
                                                                        death threats come to mind

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                                                                        • evanmorgan
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Rich
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                                                                          • evanmorgan
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                                            death threats come to mind
                                                                            and the fact that he manipulated the people of the seat, just to win. ABout a quarter of the people in his seat think he is a total scumbag and have seen through his "im the muslims friend" act.
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                                                                            • Vendot
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by evanmorgan
                                                                              and the fact that he manipulated the people of the seat, just to win. ABout a quarter of the people in his seat think he is a total scumbag and have seen through his "im the muslims friend" act.
                                                                              What a load of crap. He played by the rules and he won it fair and square.
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                                                                              • evanmorgan
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by vendot
                                                                                What a load of crap. He played by the rules and he won it fair and square.
                                                                                sure he played by the rules, read that http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...og/4519553.stm

                                                                                I dont usually like paxman but im half way through reading it now and its got galloway right down to a tee. He chose to run in bethnal green because of racial tension which he knew he could exploit...
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                                                                                • evanmorgan
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by vendot
                                                                                  I also reckon the majority of the british public, if theyre honest with themselves, share the same position he has on Iraq. It is a disaster, and it has been a huge calamity thats not over yet.
                                                                                  He holds that position because he wont be getting his pocket money from saddam hussein no more...
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                                                                                  • Vendot
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by evanmorgan
                                                                                    sure he played by the rules, read that http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...og/4519553.stm

                                                                                    I dont usually like paxman but im half way through reading it now and its got galloway right down to a tee. He chose to run in bethnal green because of racial tension which he knew he could exploit...
                                                                                    I saw that interview and thought paxman was way out line.... incidently most of the viewer comments on that web page agree with me on that. Galloway won it fair and square and ive heard no claim to the contrary.
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                                                                                    • evanmorgan
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by vendot
                                                                                      I saw that interview and thought paxman was way out line.... incidently most of the viewer comments on that web page agree with me on that. Galloway won it fair and square and ive heard no claim to the contrary.
                                                                                      hmmm hardly anyone ever sends comments in if they think something is fine, in the same way that you dont have a "war march" but you do have "anti war marches". He wanted to get into parliment, his old seat was in glasgow, think he would have won there? No way! Although no longer a seat, the replacement seat was won with a 10,000 majority. He searched for a backdoor into parliment, bethnal green and bow, and he has taken the muslim population of that seat for a ride. He has 1 policy and that is anti-war, he found the set of people that would appeal to the most, funnily enough some people have cottoned on to this and hate his guts, they know he is just using them to get into the commons.

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                                                                                      • Vendot
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by evanmorgan
                                                                                        hmmm hardly anyone ever sends comments in if they think something is fine, in the same way that you dont have a "war march" but you do have "anti war marches".
                                                                                        Sure but they could just have equally slated Galloway and he would have been a more likely target of complaint as he is the subject of the interview (as opposed to the interviewer). If anything Galloway himself is far less mainstream "popular" than Paxman.

                                                                                        Anyhow, debating how he won it is pointless. He played by the rules and he won - its as simple as that. I agree that he appears to have just one policy but the fact is that the majority of voters liked it and thats all thats needed.
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                                                                                        • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          he played on her race, he played on her gender and pandered to 'traditional' local views of women and mixed race people...so it may be by the rules but it was dirty pool

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                                                                                          • Vendot
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Sarah, I know you dont like Galloway but I just dont get it.

                                                                                            To me, this guy is brilliant. He's just outstanding for being a champion on a moral cause which the people of the country (if not the wider world support). Hes standing up to the government (UK and US) and, against the odds, having some considerable measure of success.

                                                                                            Its his outspoken attitude that has resulted in so many accusations being levelled against him, largely because he rocks the boat. He's fought in the courts and successfully cleared his name every single time.
                                                                                            "In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act." - George Orwell

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                                                                                            • evanmorgan
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              explain why he didnt run in his own seat of glasgow kelvin (or glasgow NW or whatever its called)
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                                                                                              • mardigras
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by evanmorgan
                                                                                                He holds that position because he wont be getting his pocket money from saddam hussein no more...
                                                                                                Do you know something that was hidden today? He said that if there was any truth to the allegations against him that the proof would be known and surely put in front of him at this hearing. His first "OWNED the senate" moment was when he said he met with Saddam Hussein the exact same number of times as Donald Rumsfeld, the difference was that Donald Rumsfeld's 2 meetings were to give him guns and maps while his 2 meetings were to call for end to sanctions and war.
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                                                                                                • evanmorgan
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                  Do you know something that was hidden today? He said that if there was any truth to the allegations against him that the proof would be known and surely put in front of him at this hearing. His first "OWNED the senate" moment was when he said he met with Saddam Hussein the exact same number of times as Donald Rumsfeld, the difference was that Donald Rumsfeld's 2 meetings were to give him guns and maps while his 2 meetings were to call for end to sanctions and war.
                                                                                                  see this shows his intelligence, hes made sure everyone listening has remembered that, and not that fact that there are countless documents showing bribery....

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                                                                                                  • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    i don't believe him to be totally clean and in addition when I have heard him interviewed in the past (even before the war) he was very rude to people and down right mean.

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