Well of course, Machine guns aren't made in Canada last time I checked.. That's really not the point.. What drives fucking people like this to open fire on innocent students.. That's the question
Well of course, Machine guns aren't made in Canada last time I checked.. That's really not the point.. What drives fucking people like this to open fire on innocent students.. That's the question
n eyewitness told CBC News she was sitting outside Dawson College when she saw a tall, white man wearing a long black trench coat walk down the street with a large gun. He was with a number of other people, she said.
Nah, the AK47 is one of the most widely manufactured guns in the world. I own an Arsenal AK 47, and it was made in Las Vegas.
No shit? That's one of the most interesting things I ever learned on GFY
"Produced by Arsenal, Inc. of Las Vegas, Nev., it's the first time that full-scale licensed production of the AK-47 has been undertaken outside the Eastern Block."
Well of course, Machine guns aren't made in Canada last time I checked.. That's really not the point.. What drives fucking people like this to open fire on innocent students.. That's the question
If someone wants to kill another human being, they will do so in any way they can.
Wrong.
The guns provided the means for them to act out whatever revenge or deranged fantasy they had. It's psychology 101.
And although my original post may look like a shot at the USA, rather it's a shot at your ridiculous gun laws - specifically, the completely insane lift on the assault weapon ban.
Early indications are that these guys were using assault rifles.
The only people that should have assault rifles, semi-automatics, etc. are the police/swat, etc. and the military.
“If we use a base import $ value of about $42 per gun, applied to import $ value between 1945 and 1962 (extrapolated from the period between 1962 and 1971 when import values and quantities were extremely stable), then I calculate that about 7.9 million guns entered the country between 1945 and 2000. This does not include the amount added by domestic manufacturers, such as Cooey, who reportedly produced about six million guns between the 1920s and 1970s.
There were 1.95 million firearms registered by the RCMP at the end of 1945. Adding the non-military gun imports from 1945 to 2000 to this figure yields an estimate of approx. 9.9 million guns in civilian hands. This is probably conservative since noncompliance with registration in WWII appears to have been widespread.”
SOURCE: Al Smithies, Research Director, Canadian Shooting Sports Association, November 20, 2001
Obviously the shooters were Canadians, I obviously am not arguing that.
My hunch is that the guns came from south of the border (likely smuggled in) and it's a pretty fair bet.
There was an article not that long ago in a Toronto paper that traced a gun that killed a Toronto person back to Florida. It was just one instance but the article was alarming. If I can dig up the URL I'll post it here for inquiring minds.
P.S. I pray your 16 guns don't end up in the wrong hands ... that article shows how must guns that kill people were originally bought by good people for rational reasons. But through one circumstance or another they end up in the hands of criminals .. or pyschos like these kids.
Let me ask you smart guys, if they didn't have guns do you think this would have happened?
...because no one was ever killed before the invention of the firearm. People have been killing other people since they picked up the first rocks off the ground. People who want to kill will find a way.
The guns provided the means for them to act out whatever revenge or deranged fantasy they had. It's psychology 101.
And although my original post may look like a shot at the USA, rather it's a shot at your ridiculous gun laws - specifically, the completely insane lift on the assault weapon ban.
Early indications are that these guys were using assault rifles.
The only people that should have assault rifles, semi-automatics, etc. are the police/swat, etc. and the military.
Right. I guess those Nazi's had that fantasy of using Gas to kill those millions of Jews, eh?
100% right, I just wish your gun-crazy nation could change it's ways so that our customs people (who just happen to be responsible for the largest natural border in the world) wouldn't be burdened with having to stop the tide!
Right. I guess those Nazi's had that fantasy of using Gas to kill those millions of Jews, eh?
Anthony, you're making yourself look foolish with ridiculous comparisons.
That in no way, shape or form has ANY relevance to troubled youths walking into a school with automatic rifles.
Seriously, come back with something intelligent, I honestly know you're capable of a better comparison than this.
Anthony, you're making yourself look foolish with ridiculous comparisons.
That in no way, shape or form has ANY relevance to troubled youths walking into a school with automatic rifles.
Seriously, come back with something intelligent, I honestly know you're capable of a better comparison than this.
Kevsh,
I find this whole thread in that mindset.
It has been shown in history, oh Hell, just 2 days ago, with 9/11 that if someone pyscho fuck wants to kill people, they can do it without guns.
2 Big Airplanes did more than just kill a few people.
Could of used knives! Whats the difference? Sticks,knives,guns,rocks,etc..
Yep, rocks would have got the job done.
Knives? No, it's too close and personal. If you know anything about what these crimes are about and what motivates them, then you'd realize that guns are the ONLY legitimate way they could have done this.
These are cowards and only equipped with a killing weapon that takes relatively little skill to use (point, spray), could they even have contemplated this.
Knives? No, it's too close and personal. If you know anything about what these crimes are about and what motivates them, then you'd realize that guns are the ONLY legitimate way they could have done this.
These are cowards and only equipped with a killing weapon that takes relatively little skill to use (point, spray), could they even have contemplated this.
So amomium nitrate and deisel fuel could not have killed these people either?
And done a better job?
As this thread predictably heats up and sidetracks all over the place, let me take a moment to explain Canadians and how we perceive the US.
I obviously don't speak for all Canadians, but I think it's fairly accurate.
We are a peaceful country and people by nature. Our history isn't as rich in warfare as many others, incl. the US.
We are swamped by US media (TV, music, movies - and in most ways, that's a good thing), but from an outside perspective we see a neighbouring country that has so many issues with race and violence, we don't understand it.
We also wonder how you can be so obsessed with your right to bear arms, it seems silly to us. But of course, we don't live there.
So when the guns, drugs, illegal immigrants and other bad elements of the USA trickle up here we don't appreciate it. We think "Hey, send us your good tv shows, cars, products, etc. but keep your guns, drugs and illegals to yourself."
Of course, it's impossible but I really, really wish that the gun violence from US cities doesn't plague us. For a city of 3+ million we have maybe 50 homicides a year. We want to keep it that way and we realize that no matter how much money or personnel we put into border security, the guns will get through.
i was under the impression that after bill c-68 canada was a net exporter of non-military guns, i.e. they export more than they import
The distinction I think the original poster was trying to make is that regular people can't get "assault rifles" or even hand guns in Canada. It is a bitch to get a handgun legally in Canada, not even worth the trouble.
Better to just buy one from the Indian reserve and keep it under your bed.
As this thread predictably heats up and sidetracks all over the place, let me take a moment to explain Canadians and how we perceive the US.
I obviously don't speak for all Canadians, but I think it's fairly accurate.
We are a peaceful country and people by nature. Our history isn't as rich in warfare as many others, incl. the US.
We are swamped by US media (TV, music, movies - and in most ways, that's a good thing), but from an outside perspective we see a neighbouring country that has so many issues with race and violence, we don't understand it.
We also wonder how you can be so obsessed with your right to bear arms, it seems silly to us. But of course, we don't live there.
So when the guns, drugs, illegal immigrants and other bad elements of the USA trickle up here we don't appreciate it. We think "Hey, send us your good tv shows, cars, products, etc. but keep your guns, drugs and illegals to yourself."
Of course, it's impossible but I really, really wish that the gun violence from US cities doesn't plague us. For a city of 3+ million we have maybe 50 homicides a year. We want to keep it that way and we realize that no matter how much money or personnel we put into border security, the guns will get through.
Peace
Kevsh,
HOLY SHIT, I kid you not, I was writing the same post but with using a US Citizen point of view!
I love Canada. If I could live up there 6 months and 6 months down here in Fla, I would! It is a shame, that there is nowhere in this world that you can shelter yourself away from the idiots and crackpots of this world.
So when the guns, drugs, illegal immigrants and other bad elements of the USA trickle up here we don't appreciate it. We think "Hey, send us your good tv shows, cars, products, etc. but keep your guns, drugs and illegals to yourself."
Three words. Celine Dion music. Payback is a bitch!
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