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05-13-2005, 01:13 PM

M0nkey and the gang just release there newest program I figure I post it on GFY
(try not to make this to spammy)
Whether your operate a business or personal website, whether you
have 1 or 1000 websites you know that in order to succeed you need
TOP search engine listings...

Search engines are proven to be the BIGGEST most effective way to
drive targeted visitors to your website(s). Problem is how do you get
even close to the top of the search engines?

Google, HotBot, All The Web, Lycos, AOL, Excite and
Ask Jeeves and most other major search engines now factor
in link popularity to determine site rank. It is widely accepted that
developing and maintaining high quality links to your website
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05-13-2005, 01:18 PM

Every a company pops up "selling PR" it further dilutes it's worth - Google is known to be placing less emphasis on PR all the time.

However, to be fair, link building sites can get you more traffic - and that really should be your goal.
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05-13-2005, 01:20 PM

"those who can, do; those who can't, teach."

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05-13-2005, 01:21 PM

nice ref code spam.
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05-13-2005, 01:24 PM

I dont understand how this works. Isn't PR about inbound links? How is a script going to do that?

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05-13-2005, 01:24 PM

There're 10000000 softwares like that in the market....

Why is this one different?

I'm just a newbie.
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05-13-2005, 01:26 PM

features of the Prog:

- Give You Millions Of Highly Targeted Inbound Links
- Generate 100,000?s Of Targeted Visitors To UNLIMITED Urls

surely if this was possible and not exagerated, these guys would be close to billionaires by now...

There are sooo many SEO markets with little to no competition in keywords, that produce high income. Like one guy sells bedliners for ford trucks and makes $800,000/year via Search Engines !

If the software was really like it is portrayed, you would think they would be spending every moment awake throwing together designs for products and finding markets.

I know I would! could easily make $100M a year if you spent everyday finding new niche mainstream markets

someone buy the software, let us know how it goes !

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05-13-2005, 01:33 PM

No offense, but when I go to the "How it Works" link located here: http://www.prstorm.com/how_it_works.php

I actually expected to see how it works. That page doesn't say anything other than some hype that it will get you links, increase sales, and get me amazing results. Bla bla, tell me what the software will actually do here and how it works.

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05-13-2005, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

No offense, but when I go to the "How it Works" link located here: http://www.prstorm.com/how_it_works.php

I actually expected to see how it works. That page doesn't say anything other than some hype that it will get you links, increase sales, and get me amazing results. Bla bla, tell me what the software will actually do here and how it works.

WG

It's referrer marketing, I thought perhaps that it was apparent from the available information and the screenshots. I'll write up something for the designer to work with on that page.
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05-13-2005, 01:37 PM

www.prstorm.com with out his ref

why do you have
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in your sig still ? Dating gold has clearly stated that you are not a sales rep for them lol

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05-13-2005, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

It's referrer marketing, I thought perhaps that it was apparent from the available information and the screenshots. I'll write up something for the designer to work with on that page.

So it's a ref spammer? I didn't see any screenshots, where were they?
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05-13-2005, 01:39 PM

im willing to bet this software will turn out just like all there other software
turn to shit and get you banned on the SE's lol

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05-13-2005, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

So it's a ref spammer? I didn't see any screenshots, where were they?
WG

http://www.prstorm.com/features.php
screen shots there
if you can call them that :/

why do people attempt to make SEO software?

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05-13-2005, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

It's referrer marketing, I thought perhaps that it was apparent from the available information and the screenshots. I'll write up something for the designer to work with on that page.

This hits the open stats pages for links? I thought google closed that hole a while ago.
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05-13-2005, 01:41 PM

If it is a ref spammer, I have to agree with the comments here. The more copies you sell of this software, the more you'll diminish the quality of the product. As more and more people use the product, less people will actually be able to have their urls on the refferrer pages and as a result less and less links will be available over time.

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05-13-2005, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

If it is a ref spammer, I have to agree with the comments here. The more copies you sell of this software, the more you'll diminish the quality of the product. As more and more people use the product, less people will actually be able to have their urls on the refferrer pages and as a result less and less links will be available over time.

WG

they sold a version of this software before
as Reffy or something like that
they claim to of updated it

the software they sold before was complete shit

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05-13-2005, 01:52 PM

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they sold a version of this software before
as Reffy or something like that
they claim to of updated it

the software they sold before was complete shit

We sure have, although Reffy was already highly effective for its purposes. The new features include the ability to load URL lists of any size and a much larger default URL list (120k URLs).

Of course the major reasons for the change in name was the new management and the better sorrounding solutions and the manpower that they can and are contributing to it.

I really don't have to defend the program though, and I'd actually prefer it if people who don't know referrer marketing stay away from purchasing the program until they know more about it.

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05-13-2005, 01:55 PM

more shams and scams at GFY daily.

Did I mention how I place tiny classified ads in newspapers and make 9000 a day from my 1 bedroom apartment?

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05-13-2005, 01:56 PM

If it actually worked, no one would be selling it for $100

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05-13-2005, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by woj

If it actually worked, no one would be selling it for $100

You are all overlooking the enormous pool of independent sites and URLs out there. The referrer marketing competition is insignificant.
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05-13-2005, 02:03 PM

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05-13-2005, 02:13 PM

Wow nice one. Look at the PR that site has - a big 0!

http://www.prstorm.com/ - 0
http://prstorm.com/ - 0

And this site is not even listed in google, did they even submit it to google? It takes like 5 days or less for a new domain that you submit to google to showup.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...om&btnG=Search

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05-13-2005, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by xlogger

Wow nice one. Look at the PR that site has - a big 0!

http://www.prstorm.com/ - 0
http://prstorm.com/ - 0

And this site is not even listen in google, did they even submit it to google? It takes like 5 days or less for a new domain that you submit to google to showup.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...om&btnG=Search

And when do you think the site was launched? ;) Try three days.
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05-13-2005, 02:18 PM

the best software is custom made. if it ends up not working, then you sell it to others.
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05-13-2005, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

And when do you think the site was launched? ;) Try three days.

Is this your site? No offence but im going to buy a software its good to see its at least listed in google. Its not very convincing, sorry.

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05-13-2005, 02:28 PM

keep in mind, this is the same crew who decided to hack my gfy password.

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05-13-2005, 02:39 PM

I'm not taking the time to read this but RM definately knows what he's doing.

On that note, can you drop your MSN contact monkey? I lost it with yet another system crash.

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05-13-2005, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Kevsh

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However, to be fair, link building sites can get you more traffic - and that really should be your goal.

Yep. HIGH QUALITY and USER-FRIENDLY pages are key. That's part of the reaon WebmasterLabor.Com is focusing on Mainstream sites/text content generation.

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05-13-2005, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by xlogger

in google, did they even submit it to google? It takes like 5 days or less for a new domain that you submit to google to showup.

you used the words submit and google in the same sentence...

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05-13-2005, 06:53 PM

Bump for a good program =)
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05-13-2005, 07:30 PM

What about that announcement from Google / Yahoo saying that they are working with the big blog sites to stop their bots from falling Blog Ref links? Something along the lines of robots.txt no-follow tags on all commercial blog site ref pages and includes.

I thought that's why Reffy went out of business. Just curious how this has affected the usefulness of these proggies? Is the blockage not yet implemented / not yet a problem?

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05-13-2005, 11:31 PM

Bump for the over night crew =)
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05-13-2005, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

No offense, but when I go to the "How it Works" link located here: http://www.prstorm.com/how_it_works.php

I actually expected to see how it works. That page doesn't say anything other than some hype that it will get you links, increase sales, and get me amazing results. Bla bla, tell me what the software will actually do here and how it works.

WG

link farming maybe?
Be afraid, VERY AFRAID of any seo-related company that doesn't offer up details on how they "get you to the top"
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05-14-2005, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by jawanda

What about that announcement from Google / Yahoo saying that they are working with the big blog sites to stop their bots from falling Blog Ref links? Something along the lines of robots.txt no-follow tags on all commercial blog site ref pages and includes.

I thought that's why Reffy went out of business. Just curious how this has affected the usefulness of these proggies? Is the blockage not yet implemented / not yet a problem?

Thanks,

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Think about it properly. How long do you think it'll take for every blog owner and stats page owner to update their software and even then how many will choose no have a no follow?

That doesn't mean the method of spamming this stuff pushes hasn't problems, but the no follow thing was never going to have the immediate huge impact that everyone seemed to think it'd have.

Ignorance is never bliss.
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05-14-2005, 12:18 AM

i dont know much about refferer marketing but monkey and gang are great guys
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05-14-2005, 12:27 AM

Nice , we have another useless "seo tool" .
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05-14-2005, 12:49 AM

The tool is most definetly not useless. I am not sure if it can do everything is says it can do, but I definetly know it gets your full sites indexed within 24hours on all the major SEs.

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05-14-2005, 02:30 AM

What happened to reffy? Don't hear much about it anymore....

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05-14-2005, 02:49 AM

Boy don't I feel like a jackass. I just bought Reffy not long back.

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05-14-2005, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by VeriSexy

What happened to reffy? Don't hear much about it anymore....

Originally posted by Babaganoosh

Boy don't I feel like a jackass. I just bought Reffy not long back.

It's the same product, albeit with improvements. If you bought the last Reffy version and you supply me with the transaction ID, I'll be happy to update you. admin /at/ fennerty /dot com.
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05-14-2005, 10:27 AM

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Nice , we have another useless "seo tool" .

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05-14-2005, 02:36 PM

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05-14-2005, 03:38 PM

Referrer spamming worked 2 years ago pretty well. Today, it's almost pointless.

First off, running it from your ISP will just get you booted. Eventually the website owners will complain, and your ISP will get notice of what you are doing. The ISP doesn't want to get blacklisted, and they'll drop you. That's the first pain.

Second, search engines have gotten a lot smarter. They've devalued or completely eliminated links coming from open stats pages (just like they did to guestbook pages). Even if they count the link, it's just the URL. If 95% of your backlinks are in the form of a URL, the search engines will see this as unnatural, and penalize the site. This is no different than if 95% of your links came with the same anchor text.

Another negative is the fact that you have to run it all the time. To stay up as one of the top referrers, you have to continue to run these programs. Your site will drop out of 90% of the good sites within a couple days. Once you stop the spamming, your rankings will drop. It's not a long term solution.

Lastly, there is no anchor text in these links. Anchor text is what works nowadays. You're better off taking the $100 and buying some good links off relevant sites with good anchor text.

Not trying to bash your tool, but it's 2 years too late. You can also get a free copy of a referrer spammer here:

http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2...referrer-tool/

He used to have a downloadable copy available, but now just has the source code. You can probably find it somewhere else, it's called Reef.
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05-14-2005, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by pocketkangaroo

Referrer spamming worked 2 years ago pretty well. Today, it's almost pointless.

First off, running it from your ISP will just get you booted. Eventually the website owners will complain, and your ISP will get notice of what you are doing. The ISP doesn't want to get blacklisted, and they'll drop you. That's the first pain.

Second, search engines have gotten a lot smarter. They've devalued or completely eliminated links coming from open stats pages (just like they did to guestbook pages). Even if they count the link, it's just the URL. If 95% of your backlinks are in the form of a URL, the search engines will see this as unnatural, and penalize the site. This is no different than if 95% of your links came with the same anchor text.

Another negative is the fact that you have to run it all the time. To stay up as one of the top referrers, you have to continue to run these programs. Your site will drop out of 90% of the good sites within a couple days. Once you stop the spamming, your rankings will drop. It's not a long term solution.

Lastly, there is no anchor text in these links. Anchor text is what works nowadays. You're better off taking the $100 and buying some good links off relevant sites with good anchor text.

Not trying to bash your tool, but it's 2 years too late. You can also get a free copy of a referrer spammer here:

http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2...referrer-tool/

He used to have a downloadable copy available, but now just has the source code. You can probably find it somewhere else, it's called Reef.

A+ for effort, but you have lacking knowledge about PR Storm and/or referrer marketing.

Anchor text for example is very easy to get with the user-agent feature in PR Storm, which works exactly like the referrer part of things. User-agent stats, like referrer stats, are public on many sites, and few or none of the scripts running those stats are parsing out the <> characters. Therefore, you can referrer market not only with your custom URLs as the referrers, but also with HTML links bearing your desired anchor text (<a href=http://mysite.com/>Keywords</a>) as user-agents.

Re: the banning claims, it is actually not a problem to referrer market without arousing suspicion, and the ReadMe file coming with PR Storm discusses this topic and provides ideas and a PHP script in that regard. Further, PR Storm supports proxies.

For the rest, keep in mind the scale PR Storm now supports and the speed with which it sends headers. Less benefits with some SEs doesn't render referrer marketing near pointless as you claim, unless of course you are using some perl, VB, or PHP solution that makes three connections a second at peak efficiency.
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05-14-2005, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

A+ for effort, but you have lacking knowledge about PR Storm and/or referrer marketing.

Anchor text for example is very easy to get with the user-agent feature in PR Storm, which works exactly like the referrer part of things. User-agent stats, like referrer stats, are public on many sites, and few or none of the scripts running those stats are parsing out the <> characters. Therefore, you can referrer market not only with your custom URLs as the referrers, but also with HTML links bearing your desired anchor text (<a href=http://mysite.com/>Keywords</a>) as user-agents.

Re: the banning claims, it is actually not a problem to referrer market without arousing suspicion, and the ReadMe file coming with PR Storm discusses this topic and provides ideas and a PHP script in that regard. Further, PR Storm supports proxies.

For the rest, keep in mind the scale PR Storm now supports and the speed with which it sends headers. Less benefits with some SEs doesn't render referrer marketing near pointless as you claim, unless of course you are using some perl, VB, or PHP solution that makes three connections a second at peak efficiency.

You're right, I have not kept up with referrer marketing. That is because it doesn't work well.

Even if you work on other proxies, it just takes a pissed off webmaster to report you to your host anyway. Be prepared to switch hosts regularly, or have your IP blacklisted.

It still doesn't answer the question of having to run this nightly just to keep your links there. It's simply not a long term solution. I wouldn't want to leave for a week vacation and have all my sites go to crap.

Either way, we can end this right here, just provide some samples. If the product is so good, and such a success, I'm sure you have some examples of it working.
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05-14-2005, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by chadglni

I'm not taking the time to read this but RM definately knows what he's doing.

On that note, can you drop your MSN contact monkey? I lost it with yet another system crash.

TSK TSK TSK, potato island newbies....

He knows his shit about marketing to gullible webmasters like yourself. That's it. There is no such thing as a quick SEO tool to make you rich overnight as all these referer and submit spammer applications do. There's no get rich quick scheme. It's a scam. If it really was legit, worked and was as powerful as they said it was do you think they would even be bothered to sell it? No. They would keep it to themselves and bank on it themselves. Even if it does work, they know that it won't last as google will patch their algo to ignore these types of agressive and dishonnest methods.
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05-14-2005, 07:07 PM

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You're right, I have not kept up with referrer marketing. That is because it doesn't work well.

How and with what did you try referrer marketing? And what level of free traffic and backlinks per day is sufficient for you to deem it worthwhile?

Originally posted by pocketkangaroo

Even if you work on other proxies, it just takes a pissed off webmaster to report you to your host anyway. Be prepared to switch hosts regularly, or have your IP blacklisted.

Like I said, there are techniques to not arouse suspicion at all.

But in any case, no normal host that I know of will can you for referrer marketing. Firstly because I don't think they care about this nonintruding form of marketing, and secondly because booting people for it would open the door to letting anyone shut down any sites on their servers over personal grudges, political differences, and so forth.

Originally posted by pocketkangaroo

It still doesn't answer the question of having to run this nightly just to keep your links there. It's simply not a long term solution. I wouldn't want to leave for a week vacation and have all my sites go to crap.

You don't have to run it nightly, and your logic that traffic and link increases are no good unless permanent and sealed doesn't make sense at all.

Originally posted by pocketkangaroo

If the product is so good, and such a success, I'm sure you have some examples of it working.

When did I say that it was "so" good, and "such" a success? I'm just saying that it is working, like is obvious to begin with to anyone with half a clue about what a header is and the amount of sites having referrer stats. Quite obviously you are having a personal grudge for some reason, and have registered a new nick so that you can troll in perceived anonymity.
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05-14-2005, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by pocketkangaroo

Either way, we can end this right here, just provide some samples. If the product is so good, and such a success, I'm sure you have some examples of it working.

I can vouch for it working. I used reffy in the past with great success. I have a little dating site that I could make around $100/day for several days every time I used reffy. The site is a PR3 with absolutely NO "real" backlinks, just what I got from ref marketing. It took a little trial and error but I think I have it figured out. I don't know "Repetitive Monkey" and I have no ref code. I have nothing to gain by saying that reffy/prstorm works. I just hate to see a brainless idiot bash someone who clearly knows what they are talking about (guess which one you are).

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05-14-2005, 07:39 PM

This is great, how many copies u gonna sell?? 1000 ?

just like those SEO proggies that promise top 10 listings and than sells 50,000 copies of the software

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