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God damn, reading ?Multiple chances to take out Bin-Laden, too weak and indecisve to follow thru...? from your post, I thought you got Clinton confused with Bush for a second lol. Seems both the Clinton and Bush administration were soft when it came to Bin Laden eh? =)Originally posted by ronbotx
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I was watching football and switched over just to see if they would have a disclaimer of sorts. Much to my surprise they had a full screen statement and actually read it aloud explaining that this was not a documentry and it was a dramatization and that some events had been fictionalized. At least they did that. It will be interesting to see what goes on tomorrow with the responses to it.Originally posted by smashfaceI agree with you about free speech but they have been given a tremondous resource - radio spectrum - and were once required to air opposing views and educational/worthy programming. Granted that with cable the spectrum isnt as valuable but damn if they give it up willingly.
The networks don't do enough to sponsor and promote responsible political discourse.
And as to the disclaimer, it will be in 6px type and be onscreen for about 12 frames.
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It's almost election time!Originally posted by sarah_webinc
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Lies all lies haha... Or so Im sure Ill read further down on this thread.Originally posted by Dvae
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I don't know if you can read, since your posts indicate you're uniformed, but try these two and perhaps you'll get a clue.Originally posted by tony404
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READ THE 9-11 COMMISSION REPORT! In it it clearly states A) Never at any time did the CIA have Bin Laden surrounded in a house or anywhere else for that matter, B) The CIA had ?Standing orders? from President Clinton to ?Kill Bin Laden?, and ?Not to bother to call us about it, JUST DO IT?.Originally posted by ronbotxI don't know if you can read, since your posts indicate you're uniformed, but try these two and perhaps you'll get a clue.
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the 9-11 Commission found that Clinton’s actions were not diverted by the sex scandal. In fact, he drew much criticism from the right about “Wagging the Dog” in the only attempt to kill Osama.Comment
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He blew up some tents and an asprin factory. One of which was the day before the star investigation report was coming out. Hmmmmm geee ya. Doesnt do shit about it for years and the day before he fires off a couple million dollar missles at nothing. RIGHT!! No wagging there. BAHHHH ! lolOriginally posted by tony404Comment
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THats so not true.Lets see your beloved W sent thousands to their death for a lie. How about the august report bin laden to attack us with airplanes? How about bin laden is still loose? Come tell me the bullshit spin.lolOriginally posted by stickyfingerzComment
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This is something interesting, seems there is a religious connection to the ABC movie. Very interesting indeed:
The Path to 9/11 is a movie rife with historical inaccuracies that blames President Clinton while heaping praise on President Bush. The docudrama was written by avowed conservative Cyrus Nowrasteh, who once spoke on a panel entitled: ?Rebels With A Cause: How Conservatives Can Lead Hollywood?s Next Paradigm Shift.? But the ideological slant behind this movie goes far deeper than Nowrasteh. Research conducted by a reader at Democratic Underground has revealed that the Path to 9/11 was the result of a project hatched out by a small group of evangelical activists who sought to ?transform Hollywood from the inside out.? Here is what we know:
Cunningham Linked To YWAM. David Cunningham was contracted by ABC to direct Path to 9/11. Cunningham is the son of Loren and Darlene Cunningham, the founders of Youth With a Mission (YWAM), a Christian evangelical group that actively tries to get ?youth into short-term mission work and to give them opportunities to reach out in Jesus? name.?
YWAM Sponsored the Film Institute To Change Hollywood. YWAM created an ?auxillary? group called the Film Institute, which was explicitly aimed at achieving a Godly transformation and revolution TO and THROUGH the Film and Television industry.?
Film Institute Began the ?Untitled History Project.? The Film Institute?s first project was simply referred to as the ?Untitled History Project? (UHP). In July 2005, Fox News reported that filming had begun on an ABC miniseries about 9/11 that ABC officials and producers were referring to it as the ?Untitled History Project.? A production company entitled ?UHP Productions,? which was co-founded with Disney began filming Path to 9/11 in late 2005.
UHP Became Path to 9/11. UHP Productions has only produced one movie. Harvey Keitel, who stars as FBI special agent John O?Neill in the movie, said that when he received the original script, ?it said ABC History Project.?
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What your really not thinking about, is the fact that this was aired without comericals, on ABC. Did I say there were no comericals?Comment
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You're right it wasnt the next day it was 20 days laterOriginally posted by tony404
HOWEVER what I was thinking of is it was the DAY AFTER THIS!http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/binladen.profile/
on August 20, 1998, President Clinton ordered cruise missile attacks against suspected terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and a pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum, Sudan.
http://www.npr.org/news/national/starrspecial.html
On Wednesday, September 9, 1998 Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr delivered a 445-page report to Congress alleging 11 impeachable offenses by President Clinton. Here you can find NPR News coverage and the actual documents. The reports are graphic and we urge you to exercise caution when reading, listening or watching them.
Nope no wagging the dog there to shake the stank off himself nahh.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_1998
August 19 - Monica Lewinsky scandal: U.S. President Bill Clinton admits in taped testimony that he had an "improper physical relationship" with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. He also admits before the nation that he "misled people" about his relationship.
And this below is just a bit of irony I had to post.
Clinton Apology
President Clinton apologized to Monica Lewinsky, her family and the American people during a National Prayer Breakfast on Friday, Sept. 11.Comment
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what about bin laden still being loose thats all history W is president now and bin laden is loose.Comment
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Ya and his organization is getting trampled. But does this mean you admit to Clinton wagging the dog now? Given the dates do you not even question the motives?Originally posted by tony404Comment
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no I dont but that is history bin laden did this to our country and he is still free. Maybe Clinton could of got him if the right wasnt crying missles for monica but thats history lets talk about today. He is loose, we were promised dead or alive, he hasnt been caught.Originally posted by stickyfingerzComment
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Well actually what Bin Laden did is history too. So we should just let it go by your thinking.Originally posted by tony404
And btw Clinton had many an opportunity to get Bin Laden prior to Monicagate. He was offered up cuffed and ready to go and he refused. This was after the cole bombings. The FEDERAL GOVERMENTS proceedings for going after Clinton for LYING UNDER OATH IN A FEDERAL COURTROOM had nothing to do with stopping him from getting Bin Laden. Amazing how much the liberal media has twisted history into what you folks belive to be truth now. And if you cannot see how obvious the intentions for the missle strike were then I cant help you.Comment
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liberal media ABc gave this docudrama to Rush and not Clinton pleaser wake the fuck up. Also the 911 commission found he was never given bin laden on a silver platter that was right wing bullshit. Whats truly amazing to you none of this is bush's fault and he is doing just fine by you. Very scaryOriginally posted by stickyfingerzComment
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At what time did stop being the President? Was he just supposed to sit back and not try to seek retribution for the attack on the embassies?Originally posted by stickyfingerz
His duty is to the American people, just like President Bush, not the Republican Party and its right wing.Comment
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9/11 HAPPENED ON BUSH'S WATCH PERIOD.
Takes some responsiblity you fucking idiots!
Even life long Republicans can see the mistakes of the BUSH administration on the "War on Terror".
Saddam did not plan 9/11 you dumb shits, it was OSAMA.ISeekGirls.com since 2005Comment
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Yes yet Clinton admits he could of got him himself. ......Originally posted by tony404
Its on audio tape.
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Try to keep up mmmkay?Originally posted by smashfaceComment
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Sure are some real sicko assholes in the US - awesome demonstration of hate at it's best.
They collect like flies to a fucking flypaper - wish they'd get stuck there
Last edited by Webby; 09-10-2006, 11:03 PM.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Well global terrorism is on the rise. Not sure how "trampling" his organization equates to more terrorism.Originally posted by stickyfingerzComment
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There was nothing that damning of Clinton - at least in the 1st episode.
In hindsight of course lots of things could have been done to stop 9/11 - but in the real world thats not how it works.Comment
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As a non American I am kind of curious if Americans ever debate serious issues outside of the Republican/Democrat divide. Judging by this thread apparently not.
The Clinton/bin Laden issue is like the Ho Chi Min issue in the 1940's where he was assisted by and worked for the CIA or the Taliban movement in the 1980's which was also partly funded and assisted by the Americans.
In short it was judged to be the correct decision at the time.
Clinton had no grounds for 'getting' bin Laden as no crime had been committed against America or American interests and the seeds of Al Qaeda were cultivated in part with American aid back in the 1980's prior to Clinton's presidency.
Trying to get Clinton on this is absurd and pointless save for trying to score points in a Republican/Democrat slanging match. Frankly if the gist of the Republican argument is that this is all Clinton's fault then quite clearly the current administration must be in bigger trouble on this issue then we realise.Comment
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