All programs have cheaters but how come 50% of 12clicks affiliates are cheaters?

**Brujah** · 05-13-2005, 05:11 AM

He pays per click.

**BabeHunter** · 05-13-2005, 05:12 AM

intresting...

**WiredGuy** · 05-13-2005, 05:13 AM

PPC sponsors attract the most cheaters and not so many companies are so public about the number of cheaters out there.

WG

**Dirty F** · 05-13-2005, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by Brujah

He pays per click.

I know. But there are tons of companies out there who do that and im sure theyre getting cheated yes but i havent yet seen 1 company have so much problems with cheaters.

Isnt it time to change your business model if youre getting that much cheaters or is it even more profitable to get cheaters because you can keep their traffic and not pay them out?

**JamesK2** · 05-13-2005, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by Brujah

He pays per click.

What he said.

**Dirty F** · 05-13-2005, 05:14 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

PPC sponsors attract the most cheaters and not so many companies are so public about the number of cheaters out there.

WG

He is very public, you got a point there indeed. But then again he calls everybody a cheater who isnt on his side. Some of the people he has called a cheater is just pure nonsense.

**WiredGuy** · 05-13-2005, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by Franck

I know. But there are tons of companies out there who do that and im sure theyre getting cheated yes but i havent yet seen 1 company have so much problems with cheaters.

Is there really that many PPC sponsors? I can't really think of many offhand to be honest other than Ron's and AmateurMoney (Lens').
WG

**DarkJedi** · 05-13-2005, 05:16 AM

I have never seen anybody post that they actually made money on 12clicks program and were happy about it.

Just an observation.

**Dirty F** · 05-13-2005, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Is there really that many PPC sponsors? I can't really think of many offhand to be honest other than Ron's and AmateurMoney (Lens').
WG

Hmm i dont know actually, im not working with ppc sponsors but i know there were at least quite a bunch a few years ago right?

**Sexzity** · 05-13-2005, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi

I have never seen anybody post that they actually made money on 12clicks program and were happy about it.

Just an observation.

I made 100-200$ per mouths and was happy about the program, until he "forgot" to send my checks.
Never got a mail or anything else. Just no more checks.

**polish_aristocrat** · 05-13-2005, 05:20 AM

WG, I remember that in the old tranza thread that he posted 1 week ago, YOU also wrote that YOU had some problems with MojoSearch....

I assume they were resolved already since now you seem to be defending him...

**Brujah** · 05-13-2005, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by Franck

I know. But there are tons of companies out there who do that and im sure theyre getting cheated yes but i havent yet seen 1 company have so much problems with cheaters.

Isnt it time to change your business model if youre getting that much cheaters or is it even more profitable to get cheaters because you can keep their traffic and not pay them out?

No idea. I was a "cheater" too, just no idea where or how. However, it turned out for the best. Having to use a new sponsor ended up being over 10 times more profitable and has been ever since. If I were to give 12clicks benefit of the doubt in this situation, you should use the term "cheater" loosely. It could be a completely honest mistake overlooking a strict, changing TOS.

**pradaboy** · 05-13-2005, 05:26 AM

"We have no cheaters and pay on time every time"

**WiredGuy** · 05-13-2005, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

WG, I remember that in the old tranza thread that he posted 1 week ago, YOU also wrote that YOU had some problems with MojoSearch....

I assume they were resolved already since now you seem to be defending him...

I'm not defending 12clicks here, just pointing out a few things. I guess you can say the Mojosearch issue was dropped.

WG

**WiredGuy** · 05-13-2005, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by Brujah

No idea. I was a "cheater" too, just no idea where or how. However, it turned out for the best. Having to use a new sponsor ended up being over 10 times more profitable and has been ever since.

Ironically I fell into the same situation. Moving from PPC to PPS was the best move I ever did and it was kind of forced on me like this. I was rather naive back then and only wanted to work on a PPC basis.

WG

**MickeyG** · 05-13-2005, 05:37 AM

bunch of spyware promoting mother fuckers..

**BVF** · 05-13-2005, 05:39 AM

Originally posted by Franck

I know. But there are tons of companies out there who do that