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  • spentrent
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2004
    • 876

    #1

    Hosting companies: I need a HOST for streaming audio

    - Live AND recorded audio

    - All talk, so it can be compressed, maybe 48 bitrate

    What kind of hardware expense and monthly bandwidth expense am I looking at for the following numbers of listeners: 500, 1000, 3000, 10,000

    Anyone else doing streaming audio?
  • juicys_left_testicle
    Registered User
    • May 2005
    • 28

    #2
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    • pr0
      rockin tha trailerpark
      • May 2001
      • 23088

      #3
      i can get ya $27 a meg...& the techs who set the stuff up are pretty much experts in streaming audio/shoutcast servers
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      • zagi
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2004
        • 1238

        #4
        I would recommend shoutcast as the streaming server solution

        The number of listeners * bit rate = traffic / second

        At 500 listeners max for a station you can expect about 200 connected throughout the day if your station is popular

        200 * 48kbps = 9.6Mbps -- this would require roughly a 10Mbps server

        Scale the # of listeners up and you'll see how much bandwidth you would require.

        We can guide you along and help you setup everything, ICQ: 4930562 and it would run about $550/month for the example quoted above
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        • spentrent
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2004
          • 876

          #5
          Originally posted by pr0
          i can get ya $27 a meg...& the techs who set the stuff up are pretty much experts in streaming audio/shoutcast servers
          Can you have a tech email me a ballpark estimate for the numbers of listeners in my original post? Let's say each amount means that many listeners 24 hours a day... thanks!

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          • spentrent
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2004
            • 876

            #6
            Originally posted by zagi
            Scale the # of listeners up and you'll see how much bandwidth you would require.
            Thanks for this info!

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            • Jace
              FBOP Class Of 2013
              • Jan 2004
              • 35562

              #7
              use shoutcast, best option and all major media players stream mp3

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              • spentrent
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2004
                • 876

                #8
                Originally posted by JaceXXX
                use shoutcast, best option and all major media players stream mp3
                Is "SHOUTCast" simply a protocol for streaming data, or does it have any production side software for doing live broadcasts? I'm trying to get a feel for how I would integrate my studio in location A with my server in location B.

                TIA Jace

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                • Ycaza
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 4290

                  #9
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                  8000 Gb (25 Mbps @ 30/M) = 750.00 only 10 cents per GB
                  16000 GB (50 Mbps @ 20/M) = 1,000.00 only 07 cents per GB
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                  8000 Gb (25 Mbps @ 35/M) = 875.00 only 11 cents per GB
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                  • spentrent
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 876

                    #10
                    Thanks for the extensive info! Now, what do I need for

                    1) 100 listeners per hour
                    2) 300
                    4) 1000
                    5) 5000

                    for bitrates 24, 48, 96, 128?

                    Thank you.

                    Hint: the hosting companies that answer these questions have the best chance of getting my business.

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                    • Gemhdar
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 204

                      #11
                      Originally posted by spentrent
                      Thanks for the extensive info! Now, what do I need for

                      1) 100 listeners per hour
                      2) 300
                      4) 1000
                      5) 5000

                      for bitrates 24, 48, 96, 128?

                      Thank you.

                      Hint: the hosting companies that answer these questions have the best chance of getting my business.
                      hey spentrent,

                      Brewing a quote and an answers section to your questions to be emailed.

                      I also added you to ICQ, looking forward to chatting once the email and quote are sent out.

                      Good luck on your search.

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                      • zagi
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 1238

                        #12
                        Originally posted by spentrent
                        Now, what do I need for
                        1) 100 listeners per hour
                        2) 300
                        4) 1000
                        5) 5000

                        for bitrates 24, 48, 96, 128?
                        The formula is as follows:
                        bit rate X # of listeners / 1000 = # of megabits / sec
                        Then to get the number of MB transfer you use the following forumula
                        ( bit rate / 8 ) x # of listeners x 60 secs x 60 min = # of MegaBytes transferred per hour

                        For Example:
                        24kbps X 100 listeners = 2.4mbps or roughly 10MB of transfer per hour
                        128kbps X 100 listeners = 12.8mbps or 5.7GB of transfer per hour

                        24kbps X 5000 listeners = 120mbps or 54GB of transfer per hour
                        128kbps x 5000 listeners = 640mbps or 288GB of transfer per hour

                        To give you a rough idea, 10mbps is about $550
                        100mbps is about $4000

                        Now mbps allows you transfer this at full speed for the ENTIRE month with that price, and GB pricing starts at about $0.40/GB and goes down to about $0.15/GB


                        *In regards to your other question with having a server in 1 location and your computer in another, its really quite simple. You install winamp and configure it to send to a shoutcast server by using a simple plugin and pointing it to the IP address. Then winamp can be used to either play pre-recorded material or use line in to relay whatever is being played/heard to your server and then out to the rest of the world. Best of all shoutcast is free!
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                        Dell XEON Servers + 1/2/3 TB Packages ICQ: 4-930-562

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                        • Poppy
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 6254

                          #13
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                          • FrankWhite
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 3540

                            #14
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                            • spentrent
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 876

                              #15
                              Originally posted by zagi
                              The formula is as follows:
                              bit rate X # of listeners / 1000 = # of megabits / sec
                              Then to get the number of MB transfer you use the following forumula
                              ( bit rate / 8 ) x # of listeners x 60 secs x 60 min = # of MegaBytes transferred per hour

                              For Example:
                              24kbps X 100 listeners = 2.4mbps or roughly 10MB of transfer per hour
                              128kbps X 100 listeners = 12.8mbps or 5.7GB of transfer per hour

                              24kbps X 5000 listeners = 120mbps or 54GB of transfer per hour
                              128kbps x 5000 listeners = 640mbps or 288GB of transfer per hour

                              To give you a rough idea, 10mbps is about $550
                              100mbps is about $4000

                              Now mbps allows you transfer this at full speed for the ENTIRE month with that price, and GB pricing starts at about $0.40/GB and goes down to about $0.15/GB


                              *In regards to your other question with having a server in 1 location and your computer in another, its really quite simple. You install winamp and configure it to send to a shoutcast server by using a simple plugin and pointing it to the IP address. Then winamp can be used to either play pre-recorded material or use line in to relay whatever is being played/heard to your server and then out to the rest of the world. Best of all shoutcast is free!

                              Thanks for breaking this down for me!

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                              • rounders
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 2931

                                #16
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