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Originally posted by will76
Chill, Will!
You know, the really good autosubmitters actually make all those pages for you, place all the recips, and even submit in compliance to tgp/mgp rules. Amazing huh? Not that I submit anymore, but I seem to remember it taking about an hour a day, and generating $600 to $800 per day.
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Honey be niceOriginally posted by Mrs. Lenny2
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You're right Rob. You're the kind of guy who would want to see the galleries before you took payment, so you'd know whether or not this person's galleries are something you would list.Originally posted by the Shemp
Pierre is doing this with worldsex. He sends out acceptance or decline letters and lets you know why you didn't get listed, and what you have to fix to get listed next time.
Obviously if a TGP owner takes people's money and doesn't list their galleries they won't get any renewals, so the whole process is then moot.
By the way, did you see the new program and suhweet hosted galleries in my sig? *wink wink nudge nudge*sig too bigComment
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i made a similar thread over 2 years ago when gts didnt exist and most tgps didnt sell spots and i was told im out of my mind.
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I disagree.Originally posted by Bake
For the past 2 years I've made a living on nothing but paid listings at TGP's. I didn't own a paysite until very recently, so I've been making 60% just like all the other resellers.
I also know a handful of people who do exactly what I do, and they don't own paysites.
Sure the program owner has an advantage by making 100%....however, most program owners don't have any expertise in converting gallery traffic.
People who know how to convert gallery traffic aren't people you can hire either, they make too much money doing their own thing.
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Thanks ....I learn something new everydayOriginally posted by cambabyICQ: 150-803-430
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I thought it was funnyOriginally posted by Lenny2Honey be niceICQ: 150-803-430
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Originally posted by Kristian
Chill, Will!
You know, the really good autosubmitters actually make all those pages for you, place all the recips, and even submit in compliance to tgp/mgp rules. Amazing huh? Not that I submit anymore, but I seem to remember it taking about an hour a day, and generating $600 to $800 per day.
Chill? i'm cool
ok so 1 hour a day 30 hours a month spent that generates the same amount of traffic from 1 partner account that cost you $100 a month ? generalizing here but you should see the point... you could have saved the 30 hours if you paid $100 you were working at 3.33 an hour.. If i was making $800 an hour doing something i would have keep doing it or hired someone to run it for me, why you dont do it anymore...ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Very Interesting Read Thanks
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i'll have a lookOriginally posted by Lenny2
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Hey Shemp. What is the best way to contact you?Originally posted by the Shempi'll have a look
I have tried emailing you at webmaster @ shemp several times and not been able to get in contact with you.Comment
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You have to know the special code. You can only get it from The Leader.Originally posted by doobersig too bigComment
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rob at shemp dot comOriginally posted by doober
that usually worksComment
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I saw this coming years ago.. No biggy for me.
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Since people are whining in the XNXX submit pass thread I thought this could use a bump
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Now its more like 50$ per day! It sucks!! But a year ago it was way better. Then I almost made a living only by submitting. Thats not even NEAR possible now!Originally posted by KristianYou know, the really good autosubmitters actually make all those pages for you, place all the recips, and even submit in compliance to tgp/mgp rules. Amazing huh? Not that I submit anymore, but I seem to remember it taking about an hour a day, and generating $600 to $800 per day.M&A QueenComment
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free traffic will no go away you just have to be more creative. We been on tgp's had my galleries built by one of the best in the biz and it did shit. I think tgp is free loader central for the most part.I think if TGP's were so hot they wouldnt be selling the top spots ,they would be using them their selves. Do much better with niche specific top lists and google.Comment
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That's like saying if google traffic were any good they would keep it for themselves instead of selling it via adwords.Originally posted by tony404
There are only so many hours in a day, and just because someone is good at traffic generation doesn't mean they're good at marketing.sig too bigComment
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Program owners aren't at the top of the heap in regards to sign-up payouts.
There are guys getting more than a sign-up is actually worth from a revenue standpoint just for getting those sign-ups. So if a program owner is at 100% (not even counting expenses) these guys could be at 150-250%Comment
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I know what you mean but i doubt it's true...Originally posted by Nate-MM2I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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Originally posted by Bake
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Lenny Ive been making money from galleries before most the people on this board Mums would let them own a PC. If you read all my post you would have noticed Im not shy about buying gallery spots Ive been doing it before it became the norm. Im just saying that some big tgp's that where good value 2 to 3 years ago are no longer as good as they where, Theres some tgp's where I would spend $1000 for a months worth of gallery spots that I wouldent pay $500 for now because there good traffic has left. And I belive its because they now just take payed spots only so there quailty has gone to shit and there bookmarkers are long gone.Originally posted by Lenny2I disagree.
For the past 2 years I've made a living on nothing but paid listings at TGP's. I didn't own a paysite until very recently, so I've been making 60% just like all the other resellers.
I also know a handful of people who do exactly what I do, and they don't own paysites.
Sure the program owner has an advantage by making 100%....however, most program owners don't have any expertise in converting gallery traffic.
People who know how to convert gallery traffic aren't people you can hire either, they make too much money doing their own thing.
Look at my good freind Shemp's site he mixes it up taking both public subs and payed I belive this type of tgp's are the ones to buy on.Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more.
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You may have a point there. If the quality of a site drops off then you have to look elsewhere for traffic.Originally posted by Bake
However I still believe that "pay to play" is here to stay.sig too bigComment
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"pay to play" is here to stay and as far as I can see untill a new model comes along its here to stay. But there's still room for the pro's otherwise I couldent burn 20 mps a day.Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more.
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Sure you can submit your links to link dump boxes like http://freeporn.xiando.org/ , but the number of visitors you get will be in the thousands. I and other webmasters are still willing to pay for huge traffic regardless of how many sites like that exist.
And the fact that new sites like that appear every day, it will not affect the number of surfers at those high-traffic established sites. The number of surfers (new people getting Internet access) is still growing at the same rate new sites appear...Comment
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I'm going to bump this thread every time someone starts a thread whining about another TGP charging for submissions.
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you're so coolOriginally posted by Lenny2
I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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you will pay for a partner account if the traffic is worth it, and most of us that have been submitting for a while with qualiuty converting high traffic sites. that are partner only will probably stay that way. most of the sites we submit too dont allow free subsSince 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.
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paid partner accounts are all cool in my book.....
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I don't think so. No submitters = no galleries. It's still give and take...Originally posted by Lenny2Comment
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It depends on how you define "submitters" I guess Michel.Originally posted by michel
Your traffic is great and I imagine you'll be the last place around that doesn't charge for submissions, but a guy can't make a living only submitting to you.
So the only guys left to submit anywhere will be the ones willing to pay to play everywhere else.sig too bigComment
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That's what I worry about. Paying money to several places for the opportunity to submit and still get rejected due to more galleries submitted than they list daily. Some people will still get rejected on good clean galleries with fresh content.Originally posted by bringer
And let's not get started on trades. You finally get a listing and 1 out of 4 clicks goes to trades on most places I have surfed lately. And I think that's a pretty conservative ratio on most TGP/MGP's.AKA - ClubsexyComment
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bump
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What a waste of great sig space ;)Originally posted by Lenny2bumpComment
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lenny how do your FHG convert compared to what you have seen with other programs?Comment
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Having to pay for gallery spots just reduces the competition. That's good for anybody that knows how to make sales. But I agree with Bake. A balance of both paid and unpaid spots will be best for the TGP's longevity.Comment
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I don't own a TGP so I've never sent traffic to anyone else's hosted galleries, so I really can't compare.Originally posted by bigdogsig too bigComment
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If your business model is just throw enough shit, and something will stick, you will always have grief.
If you are doing niche, general, or whatever... you need to do you homework, and if you submit to 10/100/1000 small targeted tgp's (or traffic source) for whatever it is you are selling, then you will make better conversions.
It's CONVERSIONS that make or break you. If you did a foot site, and you submit to general, ass, tit places for traffic, even if 1000 times more traffic hits your stuff, you will not convert.
If you submit to 10/100/1000 highly filtered, targetted places, you have a better chance of a sale, or conversion. Whether you are submitting your own paysites, or a gallery submitter, you need to make a better business model to get the targetted, filtered surfer who will actually BUY.
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Get over yourself.Originally posted by Lenny2
Satan already told me this last week.Comment
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try to to get (buy) couple of partner account on big TGP's and do not worry... ;)---
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just follow the rules on every tgp sites ....
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so whats the consensus 3 years later?
anyone still making most of his money with submitting?I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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I'm still making great money submitting galleries too
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