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If there WERE bombs rigged at the WTC buildings why not assume they were planted by al qaeda operatives. You know, the people who admit in videotaped interviews that they were calculating in advance the number that would be killed in the attacks?
Originally posted by Overload
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"We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on. It was 5:30 p.m. our time. I was sitting with Dr. Ahmad Abu-al-((Khair)). Immediately, we heard the news that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. We turned the radio station to the news from Washington. The news continued and no mention of the attack until the end. At the end of the newscast, they reported that a plane just hit the World Trade Center." - Osama bin Laden
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"Not everybody knew. Muhammad ((Atta)) from the Egyptian family was in charge of the group." - Osama bin Laden
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"The brothers, who conducted the operation, all they knew was that they have a martyrdom operation and we asked each of them to go to America but they didn't know anything about the operation, not even one letter. But they were trained and we did not reveal the operation to them until they are there and just before they boarded the planes" - Osama bin Laden
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This thread just reminds me of how long I have been on GFY. I started the first thread (under my old nick) on the day. It amazes me that people question that it was the planes. If you think you know so much more than experts why the heck are you selling porn and not out solving the great mysteries of the world?Comment
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It amazes me too.Originally posted by sarah_webinc
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they will be keeping fooling as long as possible and there will be so many propositions concerning it that soon we will not know what to be believe. There are many now.Comment
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Florida setup:
Not only did informers provide money and a meeting place for Batiste and his followers, they gave them video cameras for surveillance as well as cellphones, and suggested that their first target be a Miami FBI office, court records show.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...miami0902.html
Anything is possible, mainly when you have this type of lying hawkish administration ...I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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hey you super clever and intelligent non-doubters of the 'official' story:
when bin laden was responsible, why isn't he wanted for 9/11?
there is no word about 9/11 on the fbi.gov site, that lists him "most wanted"...USAMA BIN LADEN IS WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE AUGUST 7, 1998, BOMBINGS OF THE UNITED STATES EMBASSIES IN DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA, AND NAIROBI, KENYA. THESE ATTACKS KILLED OVER 200 PEOPLE. IN ADDITION, BIN LADEN IS A SUSPECT IN OTHER TERRORIST ATTACKS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
see it your self : http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
next question: why did the towers collapse at nearly freefall speed?
final question: why did building seven collapsed?
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so YOU THE PEOPLE don't care about your rights?
good night america then.. Comment
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lol, yeah, non-doubters ... answer me this :::
why has ALL material been shipped to a secret
overseas location before ANY independent agency
had a chance to examine it ??? wake up, america !
or have you lost your own will and thoughts ?
only if you all shut up they'll get away with this ...
how many of your brothers and sons and fathers
have to die before they stop this machinery of lies ?
watch the loose change video and switch your brain
on ... ask yourself ... how can these buildings fall
if the empire state building is still standing ?
remember ? it was hit by a bomber and burned
for SEVERAL hours WITHOUT collapsing ... doesnt
that make ya rethink and ask yerself and the officials ?There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.
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thx overload!
the issue with the illegal destroying of the crime scene ('ground zero') is also featured in this short 30min video every american should see.. the speaker points out, that even when a airplan crashes they reconstruct it and keep every peace, doesn't matter how small it is..
and as you said overload, what happend on 9/11? the steal got shipped to china, melted and is used in new buildings.... omg
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Don't even get started ...Originally posted by Matt 26z
Is it not plausible that some of he beams got weakened enough that the combination of burning fuel, fires inside the building caused by the fuel, the weight of a plane's metal and whatever was inside, the impact of a plane crashing into the building, thousands of pounds of office furniture, flooring, the odd overweight temp, perhaps a loose bolt or two and who knows what else ... could have caused the first beam to collapse or break?
After that a domino effect.
Or do you have a better theory?
(Please, don't answer that... just do a search here on GFY for all the arguments ad nauseum!)Comment
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Originally posted by Kevsh
What i dont understand is why these freaks dont understand this. They just keep whining about the temp not high enough for steel to melt. As if steel has to fucking melt before it breaks down. Wtf. How hard is it to understand that a plane crashing into a building causes HUUUUUUUUUUGE damage to the structure?? Fuckings idiots.
And also the free fall thing. The building collapses and it went really fast. So that means according to these idiots that on every floor bombs went off. So if an extremely big and heavy building collapses starting near the top what is supposed to happen? Should it collaps really slow? Like every floor can hold the weight of the 20 floors above it for 10 seconds before it collapses??Comment
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frank, your just an idiot making small bucks on the internet, okay, i understand you. ;)Originally posted by Franck
you don't have to see clear trough the propaganda from day 1 on. but you're a fool, if you believe the 'official' story. that's it!
hear the DEMOLITION EXPERTS and PHYSICS PhDs, speaking... and WAKE UP god damn! watch the short video!
after all, it's also your future and freedom getting fucked
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Don't you know what "freefall" means, what this word stand for? FREE FALL is FREEEEE fall!Originally posted by Franck
even there were a 2 second delay per floor, the buildings would have been collapsed a lot slower!
but now delay -> free fall -> detonations
it's simple logic. do you use it? ;) Comment
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I agree with the part where you say your crazyOriginally posted by Franck
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Thought this video was VERy interesting...
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=loose+change+2Comment
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Very interesting if you like lies and bullshit.Originally posted by jmkComment
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Originally posted by elitegirls
So tell me, where did you get it from that if a building collapses without detonations there should be a delay. Explain that to me please Einstein.
Edit: And saying you saw it it loose change doesnt not count.Comment
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Funny btw, everytime some idiot doesnt agree with me they either start talking about my money or about my sig. Is that some kind of self protection? Jealousy? Explain that as well please elitemoron.
That eliteguy must be some kind of superman with xray vision. He knows exactly how building collaps with and without detonations and can see right through my wallet. Amazing.Last edited by Dirty F; 09-07-2006, 09:06 AM.Comment
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oh franck don't get afraid you could be the only one left, beliving the official story of towers collapses because of fire..
as i said, it's logic.
for you franck:
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/1DKin/U1L5a.html
and then just imagine a tall skyscaper building..
how could a skyscraper collapse with nearly free fall speed without detonations..? it's unpossible. it fits in the picture, sending the steel to china, so that all evidence from explosives are vanished..
btw: you don't answered my questions..
what happend to building 7, why did it collapse? why was it 'pulled'? Comment
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This thread reminds me of when my parents used to take us to the PT Barnum museum when I was a kid.Comment
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You show an article about free fall speed totally not related to a building collapsing wtf. I know about physics. Wtf. How do you know that building cannot collaps at the same speed without detonations. Explain that to me.Originally posted by elitegirlsComment
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okay last try for the extra dumb *joke*
but you've to answer my questions afterwards, too!
imagine one floor collapses, it falls on the floor beneath it. this goes on and on.
and every floor beneath the floors on top wich collapses are barriers, blocking the way down. so the falling mass loses energy, its short freefall (5m/10feet or what height a store has, whatever) is completly stopped.
so even the steel construction have so weakend that it was the reason for the 'collapse', the towers should have been crumbling down much much slower as we've seen it.
kapiche? Comment
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so franck, you gave up? Comment
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Originally posted by elitegirls
No i was eating lobster.
I'll get back to you in a bit.Comment
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Before i leave again i want to ask one more thing: So every floor of the wtc had hidden explosives??
Im really trying to stay serious here but its hard not to laugh at you.Comment
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What is so hard to believe that explosives brought down the tower? You see the evidence in every video of the towers collapsed.
Lobster.. eh..
Oh I had 'muslim food', turkish pizza.. yummy stuff!
it's time for you franck, to answer my questions!!
whats about building 7, every heard about it? Comment
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the point is franck, if you watched this short 13min video, you wouldn't ask your questions.
you get all your questions answered by this EXPERT.
but if you don't see the movie, which is the topic here..
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Ok, if you look at the videos of the building collapses. You say the building collapses at free fall speed. Well, what i am seeing is that falling debris is going way faster than the building itself. So the debris is going beyond free fall speed or something like that?Comment
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Originally posted by Franck
I think they call that warp speed..
Of course some of the degreed structural engineers that have posted here are probably better qualified to answer that question.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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"Just Pull it"DARKSOUL: thanks but no thanks, your over priced.
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Also do you have any idea what a HUGE job it is to place bombs on every floor of the building and how many people would need to be involved. This alone makes the detonation theory completely retarded.Comment
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Mr. T did it.. He threw 2 planes with his big muscles from the ground, then pushed the towers down.
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Of and ofcourse the people who controlled the bombs had such a sophisticated system that:
The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.
They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" hahaha. RIIIIIIIGHHHHT.Comment
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franck you're the only one retarded here, answer my questions....
there was enuff time to plant bombs in the building due power outages, drills...
-> there is no official paper, no evidence for the official story you idiot trust.
ANSWER THE QUESTION REGARDING BUILDING 7! Comment
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the people enaged in that terrorism controlled not only the twin towers and building seven but they rule the world. it's time that you notice it before it's to late.Originally posted by Franck
but you still beg to play the slave for them. whats wrong with you?
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Ok ...I guess I can't be the only one who doesn't way in on this. I try my best to keep an open mind, since I admit I know nothing about the way buildings fall (either by plane impact or demolishing), but I do have common sense.
It just seems odd that they came down perfectly straight. When considering other videos of different buildings getting demolished...you can't argue that there's an an almost identical similarity.
Also, the fact that when all three of the buildings fell, they took the path of maximum resistance. This would certainly cause a delay in the time they took to complete their fall...."pancaking" onto each floor has got to slow the fall at least somewhat.
Lastly, some have suggested that it wasn't the fire that brought the buildings down....(which I can't believe it was, because it was pretty clear that a massive amount of the fuel burned up immediately)....but rather the simple fact huge airplanes slammed into the buildings, weakening the structure.
Now...like I said above, I don't know how buildings are demolished, but if a plane slammed into a building thus weakening it's structure enough to result in it's eventual collapse..........wouldn't the building collapse toward the direction of the fatal blow? Picture a tree falling after it's been cut down by an axe. It falls toward the direction of where it's structure has been weakened...
If the structure was indeed weakened by the planes impact, it seems to me that there would be noticeable lean to the building prior to collapse......no?Coooostanza.....icq# 195813751Comment
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Originally posted by elitegirls
Of and ofcourse the people who controlled the bombs had such a sophisticated system that:
The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.
They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" hahaha. RIIIIIIIGHHHHT.
Say it. Say that is what happened and you believe it. Then i know for sure you are fucked in your head.Comment
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you're right i guess 2477, common sense!Originally posted by 2477
thats why franck is retarted but won't admit it....
you don't need more then common sense to see trough this 'conspiracy plot by the official criminals in the whitehouse'!
@mr. franck lobster eater: it's exactly that way! and answer my question moron! or can't you even read? i bet your a script bot!
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Originally posted by elitegirlsyou're right i guess 2477, common sense!
thats why franck is retarted but won't admit it....
you don't need more then common sense to see trough this 'conspiracy plot by the official criminals in the whitehouse'!
@mr. franck lobster eater: it's exactly that way! and answer my question moron! or can't you even read? i bet your a script bot!
And ofcourse the people who controlled the bombs had such a sophisticated system that:
The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.
They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" hahaha. RIIIIIIIGHHHHT.
Say it. Say that is what happened and you believe it. Then i know for sure you are fucked in your head.Comment
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cmon franck, tell us your opinion about wtc building 7..
or are stuck counting your braincells? i bet you've already a brain tumor from aspartam in your diet coke.. muhahah ;-)
bad joke, sorry ;) Comment
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Funny how you ignore me. Lets finish this first and then discuss building 7 ok?
So ONCE AGAIN:
And ofcourse the people who controlled the bombs had such a sophisticated system that:
The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.
They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" hahaha. RIIIIIIIGHHHHT.
Say it. Say that is what happened and you believe it. Then i know for sure you are fucked in your head.Comment
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i asked first you completly retarded hopless idiot.
and i answered your question in post #92.
i guess you've to learn to read before taking part in a discussion.. Comment
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Ok, let me make it real fucking simple for you. Just answer this and then we can move on to building 7.
Question 1: The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.
Yes or no?
Question 2: They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" after the plane hit the wtc.
yes or no?Comment
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more sophisticated than your feeble brain ... dont you know thatOriginally posted by Franck
controlled demolitian detonations are ignitioned by electric pulse ?
not heat or fire will make the explosives go off; thats why its
called CONTROLLED demolition
and look, you didnt even read the article about the bomber that
flew into the empire state building ... thats a wee bit older than
the twin towers were and its still standing today and
hey, it burned several hours, dont forget about that ... and there
have been fires burning over dozens of floors in other buildings
and NONE collapsed ... how do explain this ?
lol, a frigging lil jetplane bringing down americas pride ... a big
laughter ... and WTC7 fell because dwarfs were diggin tunnels
under it, right ?
why cant you read AND understand physical basics ?
its people like you covering the administrations ass to get
away with murder for propaganda purpose ...Last edited by Overload; 09-07-2006, 11:56 AM.There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.
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hm franck you really think modern explosive must be handled with care?
modern explosives only explode when the shot firer wants it to do so.
otherwise you coudn't transport bombs on aircrafts to iraq for example.
don't believe the crappy answers from fema.. Comment
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Ok, let me make it real fucking simple for you. Just answer this and then we can move on to building 7.
Question 1: The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.
Yes or no?
Question 2: They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" after the plane hit the wtc.
yes or no?Comment
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