Why Steve Irwin Got What He Deserved

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  • GatorB
    The Demon & 12clicks
    • Oct 2001
    • 18208

    #151
    Mikesouth is a piece of shit that deserves to die. I mean that. If he was murdered and I was on the jury of the killer's trial I would acquit the guy. Mike should not breed his recessive genes into the future. He should insert his gun and blow his brains out to prevent this. If he has already bred he should kill his genetically fucked off offspring before offing himself.

    How do you like that FUCKTARD? What's Mr Billy Badass going to do now? Um....NOTHING. What a flake. I hear Burger King is hiring. You better take the best job you can get because you aren't qualified for much else. If you are married I would feel sorry for your wife, but I hear sheep don't have emotions.
    Mike is the only guy who anus is so big from inserting many various large objects in it that goatse himself has said "Damn he asshole is HUGE!"

    Little know fact about Mikesouth. He holds the record for most states where is required to register as sexual offender of corpses.

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    • Kenko
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      • Jul 2002
      • 65

      #152
      The latest reports say the video shows he did not agitate the ray.
      Your comments may have had some value if he was shown to have been provoking it or playing with it..
      It seems to just have been just a freak accident - there are only 2 stingray deaths reported in Australian history..

      The guy seems to have been someone who knew what he was doing around animals. Sure there are a list of minor wounds, but these are really to promote the show and its conservation message.
      No-one really expected him to go like this, hence the public shock and media outpourings.
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      • PerrieBelle
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        • Apr 2006
        • 678

        #153
        Originally posted by Kenko
        The latest reports say the video shows he did not agitate the ray.
        Your comments may have had some value if he was shown to have been provoking it or playing with it..
        It seems to just have been just a freak accident - there are only 2 stingray deaths reported in Australian history..

        The guy seems to have been someone who knew what he was doing around animals. Sure there are a list of minor wounds, but these are really to promote the show and its conservation message.
        No-one really expected him to go like this, hence the public shock and media outpourings.

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        • CDSmith
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • May 2001
          • 51460

          #154
          All I can say is, if you're going to publicly criticize a guy do it while he's alive, because doing it after he's dead is often going to be perceived as kind of, well...tacky. :D
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          • Webby
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2002
            • 14956

            #155
            Originally posted by Furious_Male
            He took risks doing what he loved to educate the masses about what many people consider the unknown parts of nature. His up close and personal approach helped researchers and environmentalists on many levels.

            He knew the risks but he didn't deserve to die anymore then the astronauts on the doomed shuttle mission.
            There is an irony there The truth is the "masses" do not give a shit unless something is "popularized" by a touch of "sensationalism", "dramatisation" - call it what you will.

            There is even less interest in anything "slimy" - all the masses want to see are nice furry creatures - preferably cute with human characteristics they can identify with. The limit that tourist voyeurism goes is seeing the monkeys and parrotts. Their concept of anything environmental is limited to picking up the plastic cup in the local park.

            Steve brought the "slimies" out to play and dramatised them for the masses - and did it well - hence all these GFY threads and international attention.

            He also did a lot more - but of course - that matters little to the masses
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            • Pleasurepays
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              • Aug 2002
              • 11913

              #156
              Originally posted by Twisted_Girl
              Okay... So he may have been swimming right with these rays... but he didn't ACTUALLY touch it... ?

              So Mike.... You're incorrect!!!!!!!!
              huh? i just gave an account of one news report that i just saw. it didn't say he touched it. it didn't say he didn't. its not like i said "oh, i'm God and i see all from the trailer park i live in... here is exactly what happened"

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              • tony299
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                • Aug 2002
                • 57021

                #157
                Originally posted by GatorB
                Mikesouth is a piece of shit that deserves to die. I mean that. If he was murdered and I was on the jury of the killer's trial I would acquit the guy. Mike should not breed his recessive genes into the future. He should insert his gun and blow his brains out to prevent this. If he has already bred he should kill his genetically fucked off offspring before offing himself.

                How do you like that FUCKTARD? What's Mr Billy Badass going to do now? Um....NOTHING. What a flake. I hear Burger King is hiring. You better take the best job you can get because you aren't qualified for much else. If you are married I would feel sorry for your wife, but I hear sheep don't have emotions.
                Mike is the only guy who anus is so big from inserting many various large objects in it that goatse himself has said "Damn he asshole is HUGE!"

                Little know fact about Mikesouth. He holds the record for most states where is required to register as sexual offender of corpses.
                Hey is this neceesary this is a little over the top. Mike might like to stir the pot but he is a good guy. Also he has won two AVN'S how about you ?

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                • Webby
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 14956

                  #158
                  Originally posted by tony404
                  Hey is this neceesary this is a little over the top. Mike might like to stir the pot but he is a good guy. Also he has won two AVN'S how about you ?
                  Agree Tony - Mike has several valid points in his post.
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                  • GatorB
                    The Demon & 12clicks
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 18208

                    #159
                    Originally posted by tony404
                    Hey is this neceesary this is a little over the top. Mike might like to stir the pot but he is a good guy.
                    So I'm not allowed to stir HIS pot? Of course I'm over the top. He deserve that. Old saying "Can't take it, don't dish it". At least I'm not picking on a DEAD guy. Mike can suck my cock. Though he'd probally enjoy it.


                    Also he has won two AVN'S how about you ?
                    And I care why? Big deal. Whooo he did something with porn. WOW. You go Mike. I mean Mikesouth, Steven Spielberg one in the same right? Not like he's curing cancer. I heard Hitler won some kind of award once too. Sorry I'm not that easily impressed.

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                    • GatorB
                      The Demon & 12clicks
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 18208

                      #160
                      Originally posted by Webby
                      Agree Tony - Mike has several valid points in his post.

                      So you agree like Mike and Webby you are in fact retarded too?

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                      • psili
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 5526

                        #161
                        This thread is yet another prime example of why humanity is going down the shithole.

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                        Fact 1: One person posts some words.

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                        Fact 2: Many get offended by those words.

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                        Here's the issue I have with this: The opinion of one bred intolerant, reactive reactions from many. And it is this lack of self control which is one of the most despicable traits of a human.

                        Fucking weak pansies, the lot of you.
                        Your post count means nothing.

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                        • L-Pink
                          working on my tan
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 39151

                          #162
                          Originally posted by L-Pink
                          Steve was a nice guy, had a nice family, loved nature, etc ...........

                          BUT, his habit of invading the space of other living things was not something to emulate. His "Robin Williams" approach had bad ending written all over it.

                          Watching, reporting, appreciating from a distance is one thing.

                          I grew up in Florida and was PROPERLY taught not to INVADE THE SPACE of alligators, sharks, stingrays, spiders, snakes, and bikers at Daytona Beach.

                          Imagine him grabbing a guy from a bar, talking wildly in his face, probing, teasing ..... Sad as it is, someone finally kicked his ass.


                          Steve was sharply criticized for his behavior around penguins, seals, and whales in a past documentary. If a Leopard seal would have killed him it too would have been a freak accident. Unless you are fucking with it!

                          If you are provoking a reaction in a wild animal you deserve what you get! No matter how great a guy you are.

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                          • Bladewire
                            StraightBro
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 56220

                            #163
                            Originally posted by mikesouth
                            Maybe so but I am a LIVE idiot...as oppossed to the one that was stung by the stingray and has now assumed room temperature.
                            Well some day you'll be a dead idiot. We all die. You'll never be the man that he was, and you will never have the legacy he's left behind for the world, and his children. You certainly wont have the money he has. You definately don't have the compassion that he had. You're much older then him but not wiser by a long shot.

                            To counter peoples compassion and sorrow with criticism and ridicule shows your extreme lack of character


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                            • aico
                              Moo Moo Cow
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 14748

                              #164
                              Originally posted by Kenko
                              The latest reports say the video shows he did not agitate the ray.
                              Your comments may have had some value if he was shown to have been provoking it or playing with it..
                              It seems to just have been just a freak accident - there are only 2 stingray deaths reported in Australian history..

                              The guy seems to have been someone who knew what he was doing around animals. Sure there are a list of minor wounds, but these are really to promote the show and its conservation message.
                              No-one really expected him to go like this, hence the public shock and media outpourings.

                              Yes, it's common practice for idiots to form an opinion before knowing all of the facts.

                              Mike just craves attention, and unfortunately for him, he can only receive it by being an asshole. Happens a lot with children who had shitty parents. Not really his fault.

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                              • L-Pink
                                working on my tan
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 39151

                                #165
                                "It stopped and went into a defensive mode and swung its tail with the spike. It probably felt threatened because Steve was alongside and there was the cameraman ahead, and it felt there was danger and it baulked."

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                                • GonZo
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 3180

                                  #166
                                  Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                  he repulses you? are you serious? you are a mean, bitter, obese, old, saggy psycho, stalker hag. is that something to be proud of? dont make me post the video of you.
                                  I sure have burned up a lot of bandwith with that vid
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                                  • Adam_M
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                                    • Mar 2006
                                    • 3800

                                    #167
                                    Originally posted by mikesouth
                                    from www.mikesouth.com/index.htm



                                    09/05/2006

                                    Fucking With Animals:

                                    I am rather appalled at the outpouring of concern over this Steve Erwin character, yes he was likeable but truth is he was a moron who was doing a disservice to the world and I am amazed he lived as long as he did.

                                    You see I am a true nature lover, an outdoorsman and someone who understands animals.

                                    In nature, and that includes underwater as well as on land you are one of three things at any given moment. You are predator, or you are prey or you are irrelevant. Many larger animals like stingrays, manatees, porpoises and the like have few if any natural predators, to them a human is just another animal so long as it isnt acting in a threatening manner. They simply prefer to just keep a safe distance.

                                    A few animals will intentionally stalk and kill a human, crocodiles, some sharks under the right circumstances and polar bears.

                                    Animals dont have feelings, they don't have compassion and they don't want to be cuddled or loved or ridden. Outside of domesticated animals all animals see any attempt at contact as an immediate threat.

                                    They do understand sex, hunger and fear and they will kill in response to the last two, mother nature has given them a myriad of way to protect themselves and every single one will do so when it feels fear.

                                    Mr Erwin was guilty of being a threat and he got what was long overdue. But moreso than that he was guilty of being stupid and of projecting human qualities onto animals and in doing so to lure idiots all over the world into believing that most of the world around them is filled with animals that are perfectly fine with human contact. A sort of world filled with stuffed animals that you can touch and ride and cuddle with.

                                    That ain't how it works.

                                    Your dog or cat only tolerates your contact because in years of domestication it now fully depends on you, it is no longer a part of nature but is your slave. It cannot live without you.

                                    As a lifelong outdoorsman and avid sportsman I grew up understanding these things and as a predator I never take what I do not use and everything else, I leave alone. If you go into the woods or the water remember your place. Look, don't touch.
                                    If you need to feel superior to an animal by riding it or touching it go home to your horse or your dog, otherwise just observe and learn and leave only your footprints.

                                    If you hug a crocodile, or a stingray or shark or whatever and you end up dead...don't expect me to feel sorry for you, had I been that stingray I'd have killed the dumb mother fucker too.
                                    So Mike you watched 1 or 2 of his shows and know the man?

                                    Stop talking out your ASS.

                                    Steve did more for the awareness of conservation then most of us could ever hope to do!
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                                    • PMdave
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2003
                                      • 1517

                                      #168
                                      Actually when I come to think about it: he DID deserve to die this way. Doing what he most loved and a "quick", "painless" death. I'm sure his family and friend can fiind some comfort in that. Way to young to die, but a better way to go as being 75 and going after a long degenerating disease.

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                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 16502

                                        #169
                                        congradulations you fucking twat, 3 people i this thread actually agree with you, and are stupid sigwhore twats also

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                                        • Webby
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 14956

                                          #170
                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                          So you agree like Mike and Webby you are in fact retarded too?
                                          None of these people are the slighest bit retarded last I heard and the doc has never shown this concern over me - yet

                                          No.. not saying I agree with Mike. He made some points that I do agree with, but can't agree with the overall post that Steve "got what he deserved" - he didn't. Already posted stuff to this effect on this thread.
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                                          • Webby
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 14956

                                            #171
                                            Originally posted by aico
                                            Yes, it's common practice for idiots to form an opinion before knowing all of the facts.
                                            Agree aico - and even if they thought they knew all the facts - they have no experience to offer any opinion. It's GFY
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                                            • CrazyAL
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 205

                                              #172
                                              Mr. South...... is a typical GFY try-hard

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                                              • Theo
                                                HAL 9000
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 34515

                                                #173
                                                well you spent at least a few min to type these things,so you had the time to rethink of it and it's not an one sec stupidity. bravo malaka

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                                                • Theo
                                                  HAL 9000
                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 34515

                                                  #174
                                                  Originally posted by PMdave
                                                  Actually when I come to think about it: he DID deserve to die this way. Doing what he most loved and a "quick", "painless" death. I'm sure his family and friend can fiind some comfort in that. Way to young to die, but a better way to go as being 75 and going after a long degenerating disease.

                                                  what? why don't you commit suicide to avoid such scenario then? there are painless forms. Sometimes i have a hard to believe what i'm reading here

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                                                  • Pleasurepays
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                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 11913

                                                    #175
                                                    Originally posted by PMdave
                                                    Actually when I come to think about it: he DID deserve to die this way. Doing what he most loved and a "quick", "painless" death. I'm sure his family and friend can fiind some comfort in that. Way to young to die, but a better way to go as being 75 and going after a long degenerating disease.
                                                    uhm... yeah... a quick and painless stab in the upper chest with a knife like barb of a poisonous ray. he pulled it out of his own chest... probably spent the next few minutes in agonizing pain, convulsing and until he lost consciousness. he left a wife and family behind.

                                                    you make a lot of sense. we should all just blow our brains out at 40.

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                                                    • XRatedX
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2005
                                                      • 147

                                                      #176
                                                      it seems that a lot of people forget that he got killed by something that basically... well, even if the "worst" case scenario happens and it stings you, then you don't die. steve knew this. i guess the moral of the story is that you can jump on crocs your whole life but you'll still probably end up being killed by something that is ridiculous, or old age.

                                                      to say he deserved to die is appalling. like other people have said in this thread, he did more to help animals than anyone in here could do in 100 lifetimes. he didn't touch animals because he had a need to feel superior; he did it because he loved animals, period. that doesn't mean that he wasn't putting himself in harms way from time to time, but he has 100 times the experience with animals than any self righteous hunter and has 100 times more understanding of animals even if he did put himself in situations where they could react in a defensive manner.

                                                      i would be willing to bet that he was a better person than any one of us. i would also be willing to bet that he took less risks with other parts of his life than any fun loving person out there. wild animals are so foreign to most people and we think there is a lot more danger in that realm than in the things we do every day. most people are scared of snakes, scorpions, black widows, and other creatures and will do there best to never go near one because they are so "dangerous", but they will still hop in their car every once in a while after having a few drinks and drive home. what is more dangerous? Who deserves to die??
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                                                      • elglorioso
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                                                        • Jun 2005
                                                        • 42

                                                        #177
                                                        mike south is a scumbag, he sucks 4 ever
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                                                        • Bladewire
                                                          StraightBro
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 56220

                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by XRatedX
                                                          it seems that a lot of people forget that he got killed by something that basically... well, even if the "worst" case scenario happens and it stings you, then you don't die. steve knew this. i guess the moral of the story is that you can jump on crocs your whole life but you'll still probably end up being killed by something that is ridiculous, or old age.

                                                          to say he deserved to die is appalling. like other people have said in this thread, he did more to help animals than anyone in here could do in 100 lifetimes. he didn't touch animals because he had a need to feel superior; he did it because he loved animals, period. that doesn't mean that he wasn't putting himself in harms way from time to time, but he has 100 times the experience with animals than any self righteous hunter and has 100 times more understanding of animals even if he did put himself in situations where they could react in a defensive manner.

                                                          i would be willing to bet that he was a better person than any one of us. i would also be willing to bet that he took less risks with other parts of his life than any fun loving person out there. wild animals are so foreign to most people and we think there is a lot more danger in that realm than in the things we do every day. most people are scared of snakes, scorpions, black widows, and other creatures and will do there best to never go near one because they are so "dangerous", but they will still hop in their car every once in a while after having a few drinks and drive home. what is more dangerous? Who deserves to die??
                                                          I agree with you


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                                                          • Why
                                                            MFBA
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 7230

                                                            #179
                                                            you sir are a jackass. you prove it more and more everytime you open your pie hole. try keeping it shut for a while.

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                                                            • KRL
                                                              Entrepreneur
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 31429

                                                              #180
                                                              The other side is a much more exciting and adventurous place than this simplistic plane of physical existence.

                                                              He completed his mission here with gusto and flair and has moved on to the higher realms of life.
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                                                              • Barton12
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Sep 2006
                                                                • 1

                                                                #181
                                                                I'm sure those of you who agree that Steve deserved it would also agree that anyone that contracts HIV also deserves it. After all, they were engaging in knowingly dangerous activities, and in the case of anyone in porn, they are doing it for a living. They all know the risks, so therefore, Darwin is at work with them to, I guess. Hell, Mike makes a living off of guys and girls that, when they DO get and STD or worse, they will have deserved it. I'm sure Mike feels the same way.

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                                                                • galleryseek
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                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                  • 8234

                                                                  #182
                                                                  a lot of you people who're following mikesouth's negative opinion are fucking stupid.

                                                                  did any of you, for even a split second, think of the possibility that irwin might have, hah, KNOWN the risks and ACCEPTED the consequences of what he was doing? including death?

                                                                  you know how MANY OTHER people have dangerous occupations that could result in death, and know it, but do it anyway? MILLIONS. firefighters, soldiers, law enforcement, construction, pilots, etc etc etc... are all of those people *morons* and deserving of death when they die? sure, you might say what they do is a necessity of society, but how is what they do, any different than what steve did? steve raised millions of dollars, and made changes in the world that .0000000001% of the population would ever be able to make. his methods of approaching and presenting animals were a necessity to make changes, no one would have watched otherwise. he put his neck on the line time after time because he geniunely cared about animals, and he knew what he had to do to get views. like you, except your "cause" is greed and controversy.

                                                                  sure, give anyone the option of knowing whether or not they're going to die at a certain time, doing what they're doing... of course they're going to choose not to die... especially when they have a family. but they accept uncertainty in the name of making positive change. so instead of shitting on the guy, give him the praise and respect he deserves for having the balls to be different and make change.
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                                                                  • E$_manager
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                                    • 13557

                                                                    #183
                                                                    Originally posted by mrthumbs
                                                                    For anyone getting the "wife and kids" into the story... being a dad means responsibility.. and doing stupid life threatening shit WHILE being responsible for a child (i wont mention the wife in this case) makes you as bad as a dead beat father
                                                                    But you also take responsability for your familly in financial way and his job - doing what he did - and his wife with him as well btw - gave him rather good income to live.
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                                                                    • Mikey_219Inc
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                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 1876

                                                                      #184
                                                                      Originally posted by TheLegacy
                                                                      no one deserves to die - NO ONE.
                                                                      uhhhhhhh ... ummmmm .... i think thats incorrect, technically.
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                                                                      • IWantU_Jeff
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                                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                                        • 2092

                                                                        #185
                                                                        wow thats rough. I didnt go through all the pages, just since people started just gettin harsh.
                                                                        The dude died, trying to teach everyone a little more about wildlife.
                                                                        He passed, why not appreciate what he tried to do instead of bashing the guy after hes gone.
                                                                        Dude had issues yeah, but its not the time to bash him.
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                                                                        • MicroChick
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                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 1277

                                                                          #186
                                                                          Originally posted by Mediachick
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                                                                          • Pleasurepays
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                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 11913

                                                                            #187
                                                                            Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                            you know how MANY OTHER people have dangerous occupations that could result in death, and know it, but do it anyway? MILLIONS. firefighters, soldiers, law enforcement, construction, pilots, etc etc etc... are all of those people *morons* and deserving of death when they die?
                                                                            if someone was a firefighter, soldier etc and pushed what they do to the limit for the sake of entertainment and ratings... then.... i dont think it should be international news when that firefighter finally falls off a burning building while showing off for the camera.

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                                                                            • galleryseek
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                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                              • 8234

                                                                              #188
                                                                              Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                              if someone was a firefighter, soldier etc and pushed what they do to the limit for the sake of entertainment and ratings... then.... i dont think it should be international news when that firefighter finally falls off a burning building while showing off for the camera.

                                                                              you think he was doing it solely for the intention of providing entertainment and receiving ratings?

                                                                              wrong. entertainment and ratings were a pre-requisite of accomplishing his ultimate goal of wildlife conservation.

                                                                              he would not have been able to raise millions of dollars and make the changes he made without performing in the manner he did. the ratings opened doors that would have otherwise been closed if he had been yet another boring "safe" wildlife commentator.

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                                                                              • 26MLR
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                                                                                • Dec 2005
                                                                                • 401

                                                                                #189
                                                                                Originally posted by mikesouth
                                                                                from www.mikesouth.com/index.htm

                                                                                You see I am a true nature lover, an outdoorsman and someone who understands animals.
                                                                                ...and an idiot.

                                                                                My 5 year old cried all day Sunday.

                                                                                Fuck you.

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                                                                                • Martin
                                                                                  "Assassins"
                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 17274

                                                                                  #190
                                                                                  I'm just surprised it wasn't a crock that bit his ass in half or something.. A stingray?? I found the guy a little over the top and sometimes funny. But his meassge was good..

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