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Hey Dig420 you better watch out.
Your sig says you have the best conversion, longest retention, and highest payout for interracial traffic.
You better be able to prove that or AlienQ will call his lawyers.
Also, I think the term "Dark Cavern" was patented by the Visigoth's in 384....you shouldn't try to profit from someone else's term
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35 per join on darkcavern, I offer 35 per FREE TRIAL on my fetishbucks sites, and I'll tell you this: darkcavern.com OWNS it's niche absolutely, tons of classified personal ads in the member area, a chatroom on the tour that usually has over 100 people chatting at any time, it's a real community site and people stay members for a long, long time.Originally posted by Lenny2Hey Dig420 you better watch out.
Your sig says you have the best conversion, longest retention, and highest payout for interracial traffic.
You better be able to prove that or AlienQ will call his lawyers.
Also, I think the term "Dark Cavern" was patented by the Visigoth's in 384....you shouldn't try to profit from someone else's term

I DO believe we have the longest retention of any comparably sized site, I DO believe we convert the best on targeted traffic, and if anyone is paying more per join I'll match them and beat them. Darkcavern.com is a fucking gold mine.Comment
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god damnOriginally posted by dig420You have no money, you never have had any. You've never done anything worth mentioning in this business. You are NOT a top level designer, even. You say 'ya' and 'yu' instead of 'you'.
You have no business talking about all this knowledge and experience you have, that everyone is so lucky to share in whenever you post. You have no worthwhile knowledge or experience.
You got crushed when you fucked with webgurl. You got fired online for idiotic posting. Everyone who knows you and knows what you're actually capable of and what you've actually done reads these constant smartass posts you make and it's like fingernails on a chalkboard.
You need to learn some humility, the boardwhore thing isn't working for you AT ALL.
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yeah that came out a little meaner than I wanted, hence my softer post immediately following. Alien really isn't a bad guy, he's just intent on committing hari-kari on GFY and it's painful to watch.Originally posted by Indegod damn
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Hey I believe you...I've seen your site and I can tell you really understand your niche.Originally posted by dig42035 per join on darkcavern, I offer 35 per FREE TRIAL on my fetishbucks sites, and I'll tell you this: darkcavern.com OWNS it's niche absolutely, tons of classified personal ads in the member area, a chatroom on the tour that usually has over 100 people chatting at any time, it's a real community site and people stay members for a long, long time.
I DO believe we have the longest retention of any comparably sized site, I DO believe we convert the best on targeted traffic, and if anyone is paying more per join I'll match them and beat them. Darkcavern.com is a fucking gold mine.
I was making fun of AlienQ with that post....not taking shots at you
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It might help if you took them out of the ice bucketOriginally posted by MrIzzzmy nipples are still hardsig too bigComment
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Yes I know that, but if I didn't take that opportunity to preach the virtues of DC what kind of webmaster would I be?Originally posted by Lenny2Hey I believe you...I've seen your site and I can tell you really understand your niche.
I was making fun of AlienQ with that post....not taking shots at you
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Yes so go hop in your car and pull into your mansion now that ya got the money that ya have worked hard for and berate the same guy that helped you on the boards from way back.Originally posted by dig420You have no money, you never have had any. You've never done anything worth mentioning in this business. You are NOT a top level designer, even. You say 'ya' and 'yu' instead of 'you'.
You have no business talking about all this knowledge and experience you have, that everyone is so lucky to share in whenever you post. You have no worthwhile knowledge or experience.
You got crushed when you fucked with webgurl. You got fired online for idiotic posting. Everyone who knows you and knows what you're actually capable of and what you've actually done reads these constant smartass posts you make and it's like fingernails on a chalkboard.
You need to learn some humility, the boardwhore thing isn't working for you AT ALL.
Fuck you dude.
I have every right to speak to what I like, ya don't have to read it.
I enjoy helping people and try to help the peeps that come through this biz and leave this biz.
I know every mother fucking thing about an affiliates program, every script available from god damn River Styx to Executive stats, to MPA. Shit I even thought of some things regarding MPA and told Garry to pursue Cascading solutions in a boxed application when you were picking your ass trying to figure out the CCBILL scrub. I was thinking ahead then just like I do now and never been sharper. I know almost every mother fucking popular tour on the net these days and even have insite to several I have built personally and know how they perform. I reccomend exit reutines, support issue's content buys and much more than your lazy ass ever cared to even fucken think about.
In all honesty ya better be thankful I have never openned a program. But I will tell you one thing. I have helped plenty of fucking ingrates like yourself through out my career only to be stabbed in the back once they found success.

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Originally posted by AlienQ[B]
I just went through it now.
Jury is out on the fake nic theory. I do not think it was a fake nic.
I guess the term "sheep" suit you well ... Can you add 1 + 1 ? Pick up some clues..? Follow some patterns? Use your judgement..? Or do you have any..? I mean.. it doesnt take Sherlock Holmes to see that MetaformX is a pathological liar...
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alright then bro, you just keep doing what you're doing. You can tell me later whether it was a good career move.Originally posted by AlienQYes so go hop in your car and pull into your mansion now that ya got the money that ya have worked hard for and berate the same guy that helped you on the boards from way back.
Fuck you dude.
I have every right to speak to what I like, ya don't have to read it.
I enjoy helping people and try to help the peeps that come through this biz and leave this biz.
I know every mother fucking thing about an affiliates program, every script available from god damn River Styx to Executive stats, to MPA. Shit I even thought of some things regarding MPA and told Garry to pursue Cascading solutions in a boxed application when you were picking your ass trying to figure out the CCBILL scrub. I was thinking ahead then just like I do now and never been sharper. I know almost every mother fucking popular tour on the net these days and even have insite to several I have built personally and know how they perform. I reccomend exit reutines, support issue's content buys and much more than your lazy ass ever cared to even fucken think about.
In all honesty ya better be thankful I have never openned a program. But I will tell you one thing. I have helped plenty of fucking ingrates like yourself through out my career only to be stabbed in the back once they found success.
But do tell us this: With all of this knowledge, this vast repertoire of sheer webmaster godhood to utilize, you've never managed to make your mark.
Why not?
And yes: Me, Marc De, Ron Levi - we're all eternally grateful you never opened your own program. Surely we would be out of business by now if you had ;)Comment
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Also Alien, and I think this is where you might be getting confused and not just with me - If I throw you some work because you seemed like a nice guy at a convention, that does not equal you 'helping me'. That equals me throwing you a bone.Comment
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If this were the case...Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
I guess the term "sheep" suit you well ... Can you add 1 + 1 ? Pick up some clues..? Follow some patterns? Use your judgement..? Or do you have any..? I mean.. it doesnt take Sherlock Holmes to see that MetaformX is a pathological liar... 
Lens and his folks can look at the IP's of the nics.
There are more affluent way's to getting the truth.
If MetaformX does have multiple handles...
And used em for his publicity to open his program, it is kinda an interesting technique but maybe just a little to overboard just to get his program in gear. To sum it up, it's to elaborate and to risky of a shot to make it worth while.
Even if he did do that...
So what.
So the fuck what.
Its still abut the bttm line.
People send traffic, it works fine it does not send to someone else. Webmasters are whores and go for the best fuck anyways.
If his prgram does well it does not matter a fuck what hedoes on the boards cuz its still about bottm line. He been trying to open the program for 2 years.
It's finally up and working. He launches it and there is nothing but blood shed frm you people. I must admit I would expect more sites on his program, 2 years is a weeee bit to long but fuck it...
He openned it and its available.

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There was a day when you struggled on the boards.Originally posted by dig420Also Alien, and I think this is where you might be getting confused and not just with me - If I throw you some work because you seemed like a nice guy at a convention, that does not equal you 'helping me'. That equals me throwing you a bone.
I was there with ya and helped you publicly out of the kindness of my stupid bleeding heart.
I am glad ya only see it all as a "Bone" or a "Nice guy" thing.
I taught your god damn designer photoshop and made reccomendations to em ALL THE TIME, and had him come to my house as ya pitched em for a drug habit that he had.
I helped get em clean after ya tore his ass up.
Maybe I should have just sided with Serge and his clan all along, I have gottin more love from them over the years without the back stabbing and ingrateful bullshit I get from people I have sided with in the past...Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-09-2005, 07:10 PM.

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So Alien, please tell us this... with all of this knowledge, program experience, designing skills, content experience, etc, etc, etc, why haven't you opened this so called ingenious program that you are capable of? What's holding you back? Time? Money? Or are you just way too smart to open up a silly little program like everyone else does?
I'm no genius, but I'm no idiot either. It took me a long time, but eventually I realized that I don't make any money sitting around telling other people how they should make their money. I shut up and got to work. This year I'm going to make 3 times what I did last year. Thats pretty fucking cool.
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I fought with Serge because everyone worth their salt must fight with Serge at least once. He ended up marrying my lawyer. He loves me now.Originally posted by AlienQThere was a day when you struggled on the boards.
I was there with ya and helped publicly ut f the kindness of my bleeding heart.
I am glad ya only see it all as a "Bone" or a "Nice guy".
Maybe I should have just sided with Serge and his clan all along, I have gottin more love from them over the years without the back stabbing and ingrateful bullshit I get from people I have sided with in the past...
I miss him
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Simple.Originally posted by SlySo Alien, please tell us this... with all of this knowledge, program experience, designing skills, content experience, etc, etc, etc, why haven't you opened this so called ingenious program that you are capable of? What's holding you back? Time? Money? Or are you just way too smart to open up a silly little program like everyone else does?
I'm no genius, but I'm no idiot either. It took me a long time, but eventually I realized that I don't make any money sitting around telling other people how they should make their money. I shut up and got to work. This year I'm going to make 3 times what I did last year. Thats pretty fucking cool.
Why don't you do the same? Take your skills and put them to work. Hell you don't even need skills, all you need to do is take each piece of the puzzle and put them together nice and tight.
I prefer to build the shit for other people, owning the bitch is a fucken headache. If I were to do it it would require capital cuz it would be flawless.

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...and I miss $289,236.78 you have in outstanding legal bills!Originally posted by dig420I fought with Serge because everyone worth their salt must fight with Serge at least once. He ended up marrying my lawyer. He loves me now.
I miss him
I am only kidding,
Bernie ows us nothing but good memorries

Dig420, is somebody fucking with you?
Bring them wine and drop it on their heads, repeatedly
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Wine is for elitist, intellectual snobs. I thought you were a republican ;)Originally posted by Winetalk...and I miss $289,236.78 you have in outstanding legal bills!
I am only kidding,
Bernie ows us nothing but good memorries

Dig420, is somebody fucking with you?
Bring them wine and drop it on their heads, repeatedly

Nobody's fucking with me, they know I'll go get Serge so they leave me alone lolComment
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AllienQ,Originally posted by AlienQ
Maybe I should have just sided with Serge and his clan all along, I have gottin more love from them over the years without the back stabbing and ingrateful bullshit I get from people I have sided with in the past...
splitting $2,783,000,000 among the clan members with you not present was a real tragedy, you were missed....
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Here is a pleasure for you both to figure out.


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Originally posted by dig420Wine is for elitist, intellectual snobs. I thought you were a republican ;)
Nobody's fucking with me, they know I'll go get Serge so they leave me alone lol
you thought wrong....wine is for everybody with excess cash which needs drainage.
yes, you go but...you never fly, you chicken you!
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That would have given him enough capital to FINALLY start his own program, so he could SHOW us how to make money instead of just telling us what we're doing wrong.Originally posted by WinetalkAllienQ,
splitting $2,783,000,000 among the clan members with you not present was a real tragedy, you were missed....

You should have thrown him a bone
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God is my witness - I tried but...you can bring horse to the water, but you can't force a horse to drink itOriginally posted by dig420That would have given him enough capital to FINALLY start his own program, so he could SHOW us how to make money instead of just telling us what we're doing wrong.
You should have thrown him a bone
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Nothing irrational about not getting in a metal tube that cruises at 40,000 feet with no visibile means of support. Just ask the remaining members of Lynryd Skynrd or Mrs. Buddy Holly about that ;)Originally posted by Winetalkyou thought wrong....wine is for everybody with excess cash which needs drainage.
yes, you go but...you never fly, you chicken you!

I can't tell the difference between a fine burgundy and grape juice. I think it's all just a giant plot to make me feel uncultured
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It's all about timing.Originally posted by WinetalkGod is my witness - I tried but...you can bring horse to the water, but you can't force a horse to drink it

Maybe your timing was wrong.

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well I'll tell you what Alien: I'll give you the content, I'll give you the hosting, I'll even arrange for the billing of your site if you need it. I'll give you a jump start with some traffic from DC.Originally posted by AlienQIt's all about timing.
Maybe your timing was wrong.
All you have to do is design the site and run it. Let's see what you can do.Comment
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dig, he likes to keep it simple and only design. Read above.
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You openning a bank?Originally posted by dig420well I'll tell you what Alien: I'll give you the content, I'll give you the hosting, I'll even arrange for the billing of your site if you need it. I'll give you a jump start with some traffic from DC.
All you have to do is design the site and run it. Let's see what you can do.
Thats what really matters.
I dont give a shit about any of that.
I got all that already. I need a bank.
Find me a processor, gimmeh Merchant account.
10 so will do.

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5 merchants in US
3 Offshore.
2 for my personnal.
1 US Business liscense I prefer Nevada, you can put your name on it to.
We can do 80% mine 20% for you.
I already got content.
Got my own HD Camara and gear.
I also need another 40K for start up and monthly bills. I currently juggle 6 clients and turn out about 5-8 tours with a week with an overhead of about 4K a month.
I am sure most ya would prefer to see me right where I am otherwise one of you fools would have stepped up by now for real. Tired of proving my shit to folks. I post on boards now to help people out and ad my 2 cents where ever I please and obviously after all these years I still aint down. So I am doing my shit right. Ya need a partner get serious, ya do not want a partner ya want a victim...

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so now you're waiting for someone to step up and give you 40k cash, 8 merchant accounts and a new startup company? And you're angry because it hasn't happened yet?Originally posted by AlienQ5 merchants in US
3 Offshore.
2 for my personnal.
1 US Business liscense I prefer Nevada, you can put your name on it to.
We can do 80% mine 20% for you.
I already got content.
Got my own HD Camara and gear.
I also need another 40K for start up and monthly bills. I currently juggle 6 clients and turn out about 5-8 tours with a week with an overhead of about 4K a month.
I am sure most ya would prefer to see me right where I am otherwise one of you fools would have stepped up by now for real. Tired of proving my shit to folks. I post on boards now to help people out and ad my 2 cents where ever I please and obviously after all these years I still aint down. So I am doing my shit right. Ya need a partner get serious, ya do not want a partner ya want a victim...
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True, but in some cases you just have to hold the damn horses head under water til he finally drowns ;)Originally posted by WinetalkGod is my witness - I tried but...you can bring horse to the water, but you can't force a horse to drink it

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Oh and I have built a few affiliate programs from scratch with multiple sites and members area's in under 3 months complete with photos, galleries, movies and pluggins.
SO am I fucking qualified to talk my shit?
Hell yeah I am.

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Interesting, I underwrite merchant accounts. You want one, let me know.Originally posted by AlienQYou openning a bank?
Thats what really matters.
I dont give a shit about any of that.
I got all that already. I need a bank.
Find me a processor, gimmeh Merchant account.
10 so will do.
Put up or shut up I guess.Comment
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I think this is one of the old cases of "I can't do anything unless I have all of the proper tools handed to me on a silver platter."
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Ya talk like 40K is a big deal...Originally posted by dig420so now you're waiting for someone to step up and give you 40k cash, 8 merchant accounts and a new startup company? And you're angry because it hasn't happened yet?
It aint shit, it's a piss in the bucket.
Hell I seen 40K on a table get sniffed up...
It aint shit to some people.

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Hey I trademarked that phrase two days ago when I started a thread on GFY.....quit using it for your own personal gainOriginally posted by KimmykimPut up or shut up I guess.
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Working on spread sheets and boring stuff like that. This thread has turned into a train wreck, you just can't help but look ;)Originally posted by dig420now we're getting some all-stars in this thread ;)
what's up KK?
You should come up this way for lunch one day.Comment
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Whats so train wreck about it?Originally posted by KimmykimWorking on spread sheets and boring stuff like that. This thread has turned into a train wreck, you just can't help but look ;)
You should come up this way for lunch one day.
Did someone post to many dollar signs and set off your board tracker?

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