WARNING for TGP owners: ATKcash.com
You maybe dont know it, but you could be suspended only because the fact you skim your traffic on tgp site where you use atkcash free hosted galleries. Also be aware and check your atkcash linking, because if you will use old linking system like this:
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/cli.../013/?id=100655
EVERY hit to gallery will be counted as click to sponsor, your ratios will be much much worst for sure and your account could be terminated only because of this fact (which is paysite owner issue and I dont feel to pay for their very "uncommon" way of tracking hits)
My account got suspended because of this and also money were lost. You can read yourself what Chris from atkcash thinks about tgp sites.
First mail:
Hello,
Your ratio with us is extremely low:
month to date: 8 sales, 562,070 for a ratio of 1:70,258
You're eating up a lot of our bandwidth for such low sales, and
looking at seavirgin.com to see if I could find the problem, I see
that you're violating our Terms of Service by using our images in
thumbnails that send traffic to other TGP sites.
Please reply and explain/cooperate or we will be forced to suspend
your account with us.
Thanks,
Chris - ATKCash
My reply:
Hello Chris,
I just checked my stats for last month and as I see you counting every
hit to gallery as click, which is not common by other sponsors, so I
have not comparable numbers to say if I loose traffic sending to your
galleries or not. If you understand what tgp sites is, then you should
know, they send some percent of traffic to traders to make the site
live. My site is common tgp site with 50% skim, every other trader who
promote your sites use same system, so if you think, that my ratios
are bad, its not because of me or my traffic. All sites have same kind
of traffic because of trading in circle. I would suggest you to change
your traffic counting system to match all other paysites. This way
your huge numbers affect my total conversion ratios which go from
1:700 to 1:3k clicks on other paysites. If you feel, that my traffic
is lost for you, than is also lost for me, because I watch what sites
convert for me and which not, one click and you are out of my index.
Otherwise I loose traffic which could be sent to sites convertin 1:700
with the same traffic. Recognize whats good and whats not is absolutly
impossible with your traffic tracking system.
Goodwill
And what I got back:
Hello,
Your claims are flatly wrong, and you should probably stop promoting
us. We count each click to the tour, not click to the gallery as you
suggest. If you're following the instructions inside ATKCash, and
pulling the link codes to put on your galleries and count clicks through
to the TOUR, then you'd understand why your ratio (the way we count it,
through CCBill) is one of the worst ratios in all of ATKCash.
Suggesting that I might not know what a TGP is, is also pretty insulting.
Paysites and/or affiliate programs that are leading you to believe that
you have a certain ratio are likely shaving their numbers to make it
seem like you're doing better than you really are. It is *impossible*
for us to do this.
I also very well understand what traffic skimming is, and what a
pathetic way it is to acquire traffic from other TGPs. Imagine yourself
as a surfer looking to buy a membership for a moment. You see a pretty
girl and want to see more of her, and you click on the thumbnail. As
the person running the "store," so to speak, you're CHEATING this surfer
by sending them, 50% of the time, somewhere ELSE. It is against our TOS
to do this (using our thumbs to send traffic elsewhere) and it's absurd
to think that this is good business, or a decent way to make sales
(which I assume is what you want to do). Our best resellers understand
this, and using bait-and-switch techniques to dupe customers is the last
thing they would do.
I don't feel your traffic or your attitude towards us and our rules is
conducive to a mutually-beneficial relationship, and you are hereby no
longer an ATKCash affiliate. Don't send anymore lousy traffic, please,
you won't be credited for any sales.
You're also trading traffic with Lolita sites (PEDOPHILIA), which is
enough to get you arrested in the United States.
Chris - ATKCash
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/cli.../013/?id=100655
EVERY hit to gallery will be counted as click to sponsor, your ratios will be much much worst for sure and your account could be terminated only because of this fact (which is paysite owner issue and I dont feel to pay for their very "uncommon" way of tracking hits)
My account got suspended because of this and also money were lost. You can read yourself what Chris from atkcash thinks about tgp sites.
First mail:
Hello,
Your ratio with us is extremely low:
month to date: 8 sales, 562,070 for a ratio of 1:70,258
You're eating up a lot of our bandwidth for such low sales, and
looking at seavirgin.com to see if I could find the problem, I see
that you're violating our Terms of Service by using our images in
thumbnails that send traffic to other TGP sites.
Please reply and explain/cooperate or we will be forced to suspend
your account with us.
Thanks,
Chris - ATKCash
My reply:
Hello Chris,
I just checked my stats for last month and as I see you counting every
hit to gallery as click, which is not common by other sponsors, so I
have not comparable numbers to say if I loose traffic sending to your
galleries or not. If you understand what tgp sites is, then you should
know, they send some percent of traffic to traders to make the site
live. My site is common tgp site with 50% skim, every other trader who
promote your sites use same system, so if you think, that my ratios
are bad, its not because of me or my traffic. All sites have same kind
of traffic because of trading in circle. I would suggest you to change
your traffic counting system to match all other paysites. This way
your huge numbers affect my total conversion ratios which go from
1:700 to 1:3k clicks on other paysites. If you feel, that my traffic
is lost for you, than is also lost for me, because I watch what sites
convert for me and which not, one click and you are out of my index.
Otherwise I loose traffic which could be sent to sites convertin 1:700
with the same traffic. Recognize whats good and whats not is absolutly
impossible with your traffic tracking system.
Goodwill
And what I got back:
Hello,
Your claims are flatly wrong, and you should probably stop promoting
us. We count each click to the tour, not click to the gallery as you
suggest. If you're following the instructions inside ATKCash, and
pulling the link codes to put on your galleries and count clicks through
to the TOUR, then you'd understand why your ratio (the way we count it,
through CCBill) is one of the worst ratios in all of ATKCash.
Suggesting that I might not know what a TGP is, is also pretty insulting.
Paysites and/or affiliate programs that are leading you to believe that
you have a certain ratio are likely shaving their numbers to make it
seem like you're doing better than you really are. It is *impossible*
for us to do this.
I also very well understand what traffic skimming is, and what a
pathetic way it is to acquire traffic from other TGPs. Imagine yourself
as a surfer looking to buy a membership for a moment. You see a pretty
girl and want to see more of her, and you click on the thumbnail. As
the person running the "store," so to speak, you're CHEATING this surfer
by sending them, 50% of the time, somewhere ELSE. It is against our TOS
to do this (using our thumbs to send traffic elsewhere) and it's absurd
to think that this is good business, or a decent way to make sales
(which I assume is what you want to do). Our best resellers understand
this, and using bait-and-switch techniques to dupe customers is the last
thing they would do.
I don't feel your traffic or your attitude towards us and our rules is
conducive to a mutually-beneficial relationship, and you are hereby no
longer an ATKCash affiliate. Don't send anymore lousy traffic, please,
you won't be credited for any sales.
You're also trading traffic with Lolita sites (PEDOPHILIA), which is
enough to get you arrested in the United States.
Chris - ATKCash
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