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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
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    #51
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    • alan-l
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      • May 2003
      • 2477

      #52
      I hate designers

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      • mcmc
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        • Feb 2004
        • 1705

        #53
        Serious question:
        Isnt it still illegal for you to do it?

        Zoop. is illegal in Switzerland and it would be still illegal when i would host and operate it in the Netherlands, as i am a Swiss citizen. Is that not the same in the US?
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        • Michael O
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          • Jul 2001
          • 10607

          #54
          Congrats to all the people who guessed the official excuse would be rogue designer.
          Truth Teller

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          • pornpf69
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jun 2004
            • 15782

            #55
            Originally posted by Ronald
            more drama?

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            • SmokeyTheBear
              ►SouthOfHeaven
              • Jun 2004
              • 28609

              #56
              Originally posted by Keyser Soze
              Congrats to all the people who guessed the official excuse would be rogue designer.

              And whom do you suppose would be to blame for pictures in a design logo ?? the salespeople ??

              They didnt say it was the design people , they merely stated they are investigating them for the problem..

              Again i would wonder whom exactly you would investigate if you found bad images in your design's ? i suppose its silly to ask the designer ?
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              • J B
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                • May 2002
                • 1804

                #57
                Originally posted by mcmc
                Serious question:
                Isnt it still illegal for you to do it?

                Zoop. is illegal in Switzerland and it would be still illegal when i would host and operate it in the Netherlands, as i am a Swiss citizen. Is that not the same in the US?
                The sites are not run by a US company.


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                • Michael O
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                  • Jul 2001
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                  And whom do you suppose would be to blame for pictures in a design logo ?? the salespeople ??

                  They didnt say it was the design people , they merely stated they are investigating them for the problem..

                  Again i would wonder whom exactly you would investigate if you found bad images in your design's ? i suppose its silly to ask the designer ?
                  I would blame myself.
                  When I am having something designed I provide the images or a collection of images to choose from isn't it the only way to do it to make sure that I have the license to use the content?
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                  • seeric
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                    • Aug 2004
                    • 41917

                    #59
                    Originally posted by ytcracker
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                    • SmokeyTheBear
                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 28609

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                      I would blame myself.
                      When I am having something designed I provide the images or a collection of images to choose from isn't it the only way to do it to make sure that I have the license to use the content?

                      Well it depends on how it happened , if you gave your designer a bunch of content and he used some private pics to make the design 9 ignoring what he gave you ), you might not notice..( and dont htink this doesn't happen ) On 1-10 sites you might .on hundreds of sites like live interactive , you might not.. for all we know the site wasnt even ready yet..
                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                      • sickkittens
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 25100

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Vitasoy
                        I guess I'm not too late ;)
                        Late for what and why would you care?

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                        • SmokeyTheBear
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                          • Jun 2004
                          • 28609

                          #62
                          does it make any sense at all with millions of legally licensed pics and a multimillion dollar rep would rip pictures from another site to give to a designer to make logo's ??
                          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                          • Michael O
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                            • Jul 2001
                            • 10607

                            #63
                            But Smokey I understand your view the US sales people are taking the heat for something they have no control over. It sucks for them that someone in another company fucked up.
                            I personally lost faith in SpaCash with the amount of scamming and cheating in this industry I try to choose my sponsors carefully and the fact that someone within liveinteractive stole content or didn't do their work carefully enough by checking the designs makes me move on.
                            There are plenty of programs to choose from.
                            Truth Teller

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                            • fireorange
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                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1648

                              #64
                              Originally posted by sonofsam
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                              Can you add more black please? She looks great without you

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                              • Michael O
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                                • Jul 2001
                                • 10607

                                #65
                                Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                Well it depends on how it happened , if you gave your designer a bunch of content and he used some private pics to make the design 9 ignoring what he gave you ), you might not notice..( and dont htink this doesn't happen ) On 1-10 sites you might .on hundreds of sites like live interactive , you might not.. for all we know the site wasnt even ready yet..
                                Then someone didn't do their job good enough not a trust builder.
                                I understand that people will continue to use SpaCash cause they don't see this as a big deal or that they see it as an honest mistake.
                                But I've seen to many scams over the last couple of years that I choose to jump ship when things like this happen.
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                                • mcmc
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                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 1705

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by J B
                                  The sites are not run by a US company.
                                  yup, but i guess one of the owners is still a US citizen ... right?
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                                  • Odie
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                                    • Apr 2003
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                                    #67
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                                    • SmokeyTheBear
                                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                                      • Jun 2004
                                      • 28609

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                      Then someone didn't do their job good enough not a trust builder.
                                      I understand that people will continue to use SpaCash cause they don't see this as a big deal or that they see it as an honest mistake.
                                      But I've seen to many scams over the last couple of years that I choose to jump ship when things like this happen.

                                      well i'm waiting to hear the end before the sig goes back up so we feel the same way
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                                      • pornpf69
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 15782

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                        Then someone didn't do their job good enough not a trust builder.
                                        I understand that people will continue to use SpaCash cause they don't see this as a big deal or that they see it as an honest mistake.
                                        But I've seen to many scams over the last couple of years that I choose to jump ship when things like this happen.
                                        there are so many scammers showing up day after day that it is kind of hard to move from something that has always payed you on time to something else...

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                                        • khs
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                                          • Feb 2005
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                                          #70
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                                          • J B
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                                            • May 2002
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by mcmc
                                            yup, but i guess one of the owners is still a US citizen ... right?
                                            I have no idea... but I guess it doesn't really matter. Let's say you're a co-owner of a company in another country. That company does something that is legal in the country where the company is located but not in the country you're located. Let's also say you don't have any active position in the company. Would you still get in trouble in your country?


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                                            • XxXotic
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                                              #72
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                                              • Argoz
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                                                #73
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                                                • sonofsam
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                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                  • 18648

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by fireorange
                                                  Can you add more black please? She looks great without you
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                                                  • Satisfaction
                                                    WootWootCash.com
                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 10900

                                                    #75
                                                    damn missed my sig spot op

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                                                    • hammer2001
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                      • 96

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Gerard SPACash
                                                      I am a reasonable
                                                      business man and am I looking forward to meeting all of you.

                                                      Sincerely,

                                                      Gerard Della Porta
                                                      United States and Canadian Partner
                                                      SPACash.com
                                                      Hey Gerard, how are you doing. So you call yourself a REASONABLE BUSINESSMAN. Do you find it reasonable when one entitiy rips of the intellectual property of another? Is this your way of doing business?

                                                      Say, how do you personally feel about your company blatantly ripping of the entire webmasters' area design, stats table layout down to the font type from the old ARS? Any statement? Do you personally think your company would stand a chance of a snowflake in hell when you're in court for brand name and copyright infringement?

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                                                      • dig420
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                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 9240

                                                        #77
                                                        I've always heard that the Danish guy that owns all that beasty shit is a real live shoot-you-dead style gangster. Surprised he never tweaked on this.

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                                                        • Fake Nick
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 7708

                                                          #78
                                                          and smokey how about the accusations of MardD ? ? also not to be taken seriously ? how come Gerard your buddy didnt clear that up ? or answered that ?? or is

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                                                          • ssp
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                                                            • Jan 2005
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                                                            #79
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                                                            • Nylz
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                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                              • 8285

                                                              #80
                                                              No sig.

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                                                              • fris
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                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 55879

                                                                #81
                                                                is it just me or is fakenick always complaining about something. next he is gonna be complaining about a rash on his balls
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                                                                • Konda
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                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 2280

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by dig420
                                                                  I've always heard that the Danish guy that owns all that beasty shit is a real live shoot-you-dead style gangster. Surprised he never tweaked on this.
                                                                  The guy you heard about is Dutch, not Danish.

                                                                  Most content on this site was however from another Dutch guy, they were smart enough to stay away from the guy you mention.

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                                                                  • Konda
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                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                    • 2280

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                    does it make any sense at all with millions of legally licensed pics and a multimillion dollar rep would rip pictures from another site to give to a designer to make logo's ??

                                                                    It doesn't make any sense either to have your designers build a bestiality site when you onw no such content whatsoever.

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                                                                    • mcmc
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                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                      • 1705

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by J B
                                                                      I have no idea... but I guess it doesn't really matter. Let's say you're a co-owner of a company in another country. That company does something that is legal in the country where the company is located but not in the country you're located. Let's also say you don't have any active position in the company. Would you still get in trouble in your country?
                                                                      im quite sure that its not legal to be affiliated with any biz that is illegal in your country, even if its a foreign company.

                                                                      I mean, imagine you own a company (even if you dont have an active position) in the netherlands which deals those "legal" drugs there. That would be still quite illegal for you to do it as you are treated by US laws personally. Or did i get something wrong?
                                                                      I mean ... if it would be different, you could do any kind of illegal stuff as long as you find a country where it is legal, found a company and lets people work for you...
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                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                        • 28609

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Konda
                                                                        It doesn't make any sense either to have your designers build a bestiality site when you onw no such content whatsoever.
                                                                        Thats a nice theory but you dont know that , i dont know that , and nobody in this thread knows that... except live interactive..

                                                                        Your telling me you know every picture live interactive is licensed to use ?
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                                                                        • J B
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                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 1804

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by mcmc
                                                                          im quite sure that its not legal to be affiliated with any biz that is illegal in your country, even if its a foreign company.

                                                                          I mean, imagine you own a company (even if you dont have an active position) in the netherlands which deals those "legal" drugs there. That would be still quite illegal for you to do it as you are treated by US laws personally. Or did i get something wrong?
                                                                          I mean ... if it would be different, you could do any kind of illegal stuff as long as you find a country where it is legal, found a company and lets people work for you...
                                                                          Let's say this company in the netherlands is traded on the stock exchange. You own 10% of the stocks but don't have any active position. Would you get in trouble in your country?


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                                                                          • Konda
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                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                            • 2280

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                            Thats a nice theory but you dont know that , i dont know that , and nobody in this thread knows that... except live interactive..

                                                                            Your telling me you know every picture live interactive is licensed to use ?
                                                                            You are right, maybe they have some of their own content, no one knows, but why would they build a site full of stolen content if they have their own?

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                                                                            • pradaboy
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                                                                              • Dec 2003
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                                                                              • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                                • 28609

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Konda
                                                                                You are right, maybe they have some of their own content, no one knows, but why would they build a site full of stolen content if they have their own?

                                                                                I dont know but collectively they own HUNDREDS of paysites , so it equally doesn't make sense they would create ONE site with stolen content.. unless as i suggested it was RAMPANT across many domains, ( and im sure many content owners are scouring them as we speak just to make sure that isn't the case )

                                                                                Because i haven't seen the inside of the site only the tour that had the 2 unlicensed pictures so i can't comment on what i dont know.

                                                                                But so far as we know we only have the 2 confirmed pics , and as much as everyone hates hearing the "designer" excuse , to me its the only reasonable explanation given so far.
                                                                                Last edited by SmokeyTheBear; 05-04-2005, 03:29 AM.
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                                                                                • mcmc
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                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                  • 1705

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by J B
                                                                                  Let's say this company in the netherlands is traded on the stock exchange. You own 10% of the stocks but don't have any active position. Would you get in trouble in your country?
                                                                                  Not sure, but first you would have to find a company on the stock exchange with illegal products .. which is not that easy i think

                                                                                  Lets say Company XY listed on the New York Stock Exchange is a nice company dealing with cocain and has its own sales network in the streets ... and i buy 10% of the stocks. Yes, i think that would be illegal in my country. (In the US as well i guess)
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                                                                                  • mcmc
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    the question is ... can you make something illegal become legal for you just by moving the biz to another country? I guess not.
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                                                                                    • Toolz
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                                                                                      • Jun 2001
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by hammer2001
                                                                                      Say, how do you personally feel about your company blatantly ripping of the entire webmasters' area design, stats table layout down to the font type from the old ARS? Any statement? Do you personally think your company would stand a chance of a snowflake in hell when you're in court for brand name and copyright infringement?
                                                                                      Good luck on getting a response to this

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                                                                                      • Dirty-Dough
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                                                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                                                        • 496

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Gerard
                                                                                        Why don't you just answer ALL the question put up in that other threaD?

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                                                                                        • J B
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                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                          • 1804

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by mcmc
                                                                                          Not sure, but first you would have to find a company on the stock exchange with illegal products .. which is not that easy i think

                                                                                          Lets say Company XY listed on the New York Stock Exchange is a nice company dealing with cocain and has its own sales network in the streets ... and i buy 10% of the stocks. Yes, i think that would be illegal in my country. (In the US as well i guess)
                                                                                          Of course, you won't find a company traded on the stock exchange that is (openly) dealing with cocain. But there are many things that are legal in one country and illegal in another country.

                                                                                          Example: In many countries it's illegal to sell prescription drugs on the net but it other countries it's legal. You own 10% of the stocks of such a company in a country where it's legal eventhough it's not legal in your country. Would you get in trouble in your country?


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                                                                                          • mcmc
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                                                                                            • Feb 2004
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by J B
                                                                                            Of course, you won't find a company traded on the stock exchange that is (openly) dealing with cocain. But there are many things that are legal in one country and illegal in another country.

                                                                                            Example: In many countries it's illegal to sell prescription drugs on the net but it other countries it's legal. You own 10% of the stocks of such a company in a country where it's legal eventhough it's not legal in your country. Would you get in trouble in your country?
                                                                                            not sure ... if its not something where the gov is investigating (like CP, and Animal P), i guess it wont be a prob.
                                                                                            have to check this with a friend of mine who is working as a lawyer ... he should know.
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                                                                                            • Roald
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                                                                                              • May 2001
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              I ignore my clients all the time and use public content for my designs, it safes the client money you know ;)))


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                                                                                              • Turf
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                                                                I ignore my clients all the time and use public content for my designs, it safes the client money you know ;)))
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                                                                                                • Rui
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 9533

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  funny hows its always a hacker or a fuckup from a designer...

                                                                                                  Anyway lots of unanswered questions tho
                                                                                                  - why was it denied involvement with it at first
                                                                                                  - the ARS ripoff
                                                                                                  etc...

                                                                                                  anyway i personaly prefer to say away from companys that work with beastiality (and don't come with the bullshit that its other company in your group that runs it,etc..)

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                                                                                                  • V_RocKs
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                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                    #99
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                                                                                                    • Dirty-Dough
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                                                                      I ignore my clients all the time and use public content for my designs, it safes the client money you know ;)))
                                                                                                      Its a good thing I told you to work with my exclusive content instead. And you've done a great job, must say...

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