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  • Semi-Retired-Dave
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Apr 2004
    • 11190

    #1

    Ask me anything about the AVS/AEN biz for the next 10 Minutes...

    I will answer.
    Maybe even longer if my Ambien doesn't kick in.
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  • Rorschach
    So Fucking Banned
    • Aug 2002
    • 5579

    #2
    do you like shemales?

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    • SleazyDream
      I'm here for SPORT
      • Jul 2001
      • 41470

      #3
      how much money did you declair from that on your taxes this year - last year and the year before.

      hey - you said ANYTHING
      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

      Now read without the word dog.

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      • ry0t
        So Fucking Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 4160

        #4
        Where can I advertise an AVS site to maximize my profit?

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        • Semi-Retired-Dave
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Apr 2004
          • 11190

          #5
          Originally posted by Rorschach
          do you like shemales?
          Nope, never did find that niche interesting.
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          • Semi-Retired-Dave
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Apr 2004
            • 11190

            #6
            Originally posted by SleazyDream
            how much money did you declair from that on your taxes this year - last year and the year before.

            hey - you said ANYTHING
            I paid a fricken lot, tried to write a lot of things off but no luck. I wrote them a hefty check. I hated it. But had to do what I had to do.
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            • Semi-Retired-Dave
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Apr 2004
              • 11190

              #7
              Originally posted by ry0t
              Where can I advertise an AVS site to maximize my profit?
              There is so much money to be made in AVS sales, Buy traffic from reliable sources, search engines, links list. Some work best by trading AVS sites from other AVS Companies. Mix and Match.
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              • L0stMind
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2002
                • 1681

                #8
                is there still money to be made ?

                http://cashcore.com
                - Make Money.
                http://ezprovider.net - Hosting.

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                • Semi-Retired-Dave
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 11190

                  #9
                  Originally posted by L0stMind
                  is there still money to be made ?
                  Tons of it. Don't be fooled by others say there can't
                  I am proof that there is.
                  I started this in 96. and it keep getting better and better. Maybe have slowed down a bit, but has not dropped. There is so much potential in this biz.

                  We are revamping our GAY AVS as we speak. Totalaly new make over, new payouts and top notch content.
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                  • naitirps
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2004
                    • 761

                    #10
                    does your gay avs's/aen's out perform your regular straight ones? if so by how much percentage wise?
                    Programmer
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                    • Jakke PNG
                      ex-TeenGodFather
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 20306

                      #11
                      Will you give my (new to web-side of business) employee a place to put her avs's which she will learn to build with 0 knowledge of websites, give her a place to host her moviegalleries that will most likely burn more bandwidth than they earn you, atleast in the beginning?
                      ..and I'm off.

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                      • 2HousePlague
                        CURATOR
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 14572

                        #12
                        How do you share AVS membership revenues with the participating sites? Is it a straight division of the affiliate cut by the number of participants? Or do you pro-rate or give "weighting", somehow, for other factors?

                        j-
                        tada!

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                        • Oracle Porn
                          Affiliate
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 24433

                          #13
                          how to make money in the AVS biz today?
                          after all the changes made year or so ago I and many other never bothered to check that side of the biz....
                          is there still any money to be made with avs?
                          so many AVS programs went down, why so?


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                          • ry0t
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 4160

                            #14
                            Thank you.

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                            • Brujah
                              Beer Money Baron
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 22157

                              #15
                              Would you ever pull an Adultcheck move and kill off your webmasters ?

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                              • pr0
                                rockin tha trailerpark
                                • May 2001
                                • 23088

                                #16
                                Yea for real....are you guys as good as Oneverify was? If so i'll fucking rock some sox
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                                • Kimmykim
                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                  • Jun 2001
                                  • 16015

                                  #17
                                  Would past litigation you went through have perhaps helped you to find forward thinking ideas and processes that you might not have found otherwise? Did these ideas finally give you an edge over the competition?

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                                  • Rorschach
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 5579

                                    #18
                                    are you the biggest AVS? how does that make you feel?

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                                    • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Apr 2004
                                      • 11190

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by naitirps
                                      does your gay avs's/aen's out perform your regular straight ones? if so by how much percentage wise?
                                      They don't out performe them, but they are a lot easier to maintain from the customer sevice point of view.
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                                      • Brujah
                                        Beer Money Baron
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 22157

                                        #20
                                        Why has TriTech never ventured into the free AVS market ?

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                                        • pr0
                                          rockin tha trailerpark
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 23088

                                          #21
                                          Whats your internal linklist traffic like?
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                                          • baddog
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 107089

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by 2HousePlague
                                            How do you share AVS membership revenues with the participating sites? Is it a straight division of the affiliate cut by the number of participants? Or do you pro-rate or give "weighting", somehow, for other factors?

                                            j-
                                            wow . . .

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                                            • uno
                                              RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                              • Dec 2002
                                              • 18450

                                              #23
                                              Did you work for adultcheck before you started AgeCheck?
                                              -uno
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                                              • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Apr 2004
                                                • 11190

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                Would you ever pull an Adultcheck move and kill off your webmasters ?
                                                NOPE, we could never do that. We plan on being around for a long time.
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                                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                  • 11190

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pr0
                                                  Whats your internal linklist traffic like?
                                                  Not as good as a few years ago, but still very good.
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                                                  • uno
                                                    RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 18450

                                                    #26
                                                    What is CyberAge doing differently than the other AVS' out there?

                                                    er i mean AEN's.
                                                    -uno
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                                                    • uno
                                                      RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 18450

                                                      #27
                                                      Do you know who made "the call" with Adultcheck? You are good friends with Marty, no?
                                                      -uno
                                                      icq: 111-914
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                                                      • uno
                                                        RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                        • 18450

                                                        #28
                                                        How many sites do you allow per template? Regular? Premium?
                                                        -uno
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                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                          • 16015

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by 2HousePlague
                                                          How do you share AVS membership revenues with the participating sites? Is it a straight division of the affiliate cut by the number of participants? Or do you pro-rate or give "weighting", somehow, for other factors?

                                                          j-
                                                          Correct me if I'm behind the times here, but wouldn't payouts and tracking be based on site performance?

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                                                          • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                            • 11190

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Brujah
                                                            Why has TriTech never ventured into the free AVS market ?
                                                            We do all of our own processing in house, merchant banks don't allow the free processing. We keep what is safe and legal and that's what keeps us strong.
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                                                            • uno
                                                              RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 18450

                                                              #31
                                                              How is CyberAge different than it was say 3 years ago?
                                                              -uno
                                                              icq: 111-914
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                                                              • Rorschach
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 5579

                                                                #32
                                                                what's your average retention?

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                                                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                  • 11190

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by uno
                                                                  How is CyberAge different than it was say 3 years ago?
                                                                  Our Company is stronger, we have Real Age Verification, WE have IDV system. and all the right tools too keep us strong.
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                                                                  • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                                    • 11190

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Rorschach
                                                                    what's your average retention?

                                                                    I have seen some for 3 months, but I also have in our system for over 5 years. So for an average, I would say 8 - 10 months. The gay sites longer.
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                                                                    • uno
                                                                      RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                      • 18450

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                      Our Company is stronger, we have Real Age Verification, WE have IDV system. and all the right tools too keep us strong.
                                                                      are you guys legally allowed to call yourselves AVS? That whole AEN thing always made me giggle.

                                                                      A rose by any other name...
                                                                      -uno
                                                                      icq: 111-914
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                                                                      • pr0
                                                                        rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 23088

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Where do you stand on a goats right to vote?
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                                                                        • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                          • 11190

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by uno
                                                                          Did you work for adultcheck before you started AgeCheck?
                                                                          Yes, I had a few sites with them in the beginning of times.
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                                                                          • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                                            • 11190

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by uno
                                                                            Do you know who made "the call" with Adultcheck? You are good friends with Marty, no?
                                                                            I have no idea. But it wasn't Marty.
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                                                                            • Maxpixelz
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 219

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Hey Dave,

                                                                              what should I ask you
                                                                              Just thought I say hi
                                                                              Last edited by Maxpixelz; 05-02-2005, 10:58 PM.
                                                                              Thanks

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                                                                              • uno
                                                                                RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                • 18450

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                                Yes, I had a few sites with them in the beginning of times.
                                                                                Oh, I thought someone who worked for Cyberage had worked for Netmore, not in a site making capacity. Who knows, it was a long time ago.
                                                                                -uno
                                                                                icq: 111-914
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                                                                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                  • 11190

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I think that is all I can handle until I wake up. We Can continue this tomorrow once my pills wear off.

                                                                                  Good night.

                                                                                  Don't mind all the spelling errors, blame them on Ambien.
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                                                                                  • 2HousePlague
                                                                                    CURATOR
                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                    • 14572

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                    Correct me if I'm behind the times here, but wouldn't payouts and tracking be based on site performance?
                                                                                    That's one way -- in which case, the answer to my question would be -- "Based on Utilization".

                                                                                    There are other models.


                                                                                    j-
                                                                                    tada!

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                                                                                    • uno
                                                                                      RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 18450

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                                      I think that is all I can handle until I wake up. We Can continue this tomorrow once my pills wear off.

                                                                                      Good night.

                                                                                      Don't mind all the spelling errors, blame them on Ambien.
                                                                                      Send me some ambien!
                                                                                      -uno
                                                                                      icq: 111-914
                                                                                      CrazyBabe.com - porn art
                                                                                      MojoHost - For all your hosting needs, present and future. Tell them I sent ya!

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                                                                                      • pr0
                                                                                        rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                        • 23088

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                                        I think that is all I can handle until I wake up. We Can continue this tomorrow once my pills wear off.

                                                                                        Good night.

                                                                                        Don't mind all the spelling errors, blame them on Ambien.
                                                                                        Fine, avoid the goats right to vote issue, just like the rest of the politicians.
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                                                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 16015

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by 2HousePlague
                                                                                          That's one way -- in which case, the answer to my question would be -- "Based on Utilization".

                                                                                          There are other models.


                                                                                          j-
                                                                                          There may be other models but porn as we know it doesn't work in a communistic philosophy. Either pay up or shut up lol ;)

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                                                                                          • 2HousePlague
                                                                                            CURATOR
                                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                                            • 14572

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                            There may be other models but porn as we know it doesn't work in a communistic philosophy. Either pay up or shut up lol ;)
                                                                                            Oooooh -- a little right-wing venom in there, Kim --

                                                                                            What are you reading these days?

                                                                                            It's one thing to insist a site hold its own in the open marketplace. But I'm just talking about B2B business terms here.


                                                                                            j-
                                                                                            tada!

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                                                                                            • Brujah
                                                                                              Beer Money Baron
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 22157

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Kimmy Coulter ? :'( Say it isn't so.

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                                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                • 107089

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by 2HousePlague
                                                                                                Oooooh -- a little right-wing venom in there, Kim --

                                                                                                What are you reading these days?

                                                                                                It's one thing to insist a site hold its own in the open marketplace. But I'm just talking about B2B business terms here.


                                                                                                j-

                                                                                                You know, earlier in this thread I had a flashback to a conversation in Phoenix. Now I am thinking that my flashback was dead on.

                                                                                                I seem to recall ending the conversation with, "well, if you can make me millions, I am always open to suggestions." Or something like that.

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                                                                                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                                  • 11190

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Maxpixelz
                                                                                                  Hey Dave,

                                                                                                  what should I ask you
                                                                                                  Just thought I say hi
                                                                                                  Hey buddy,

                                                                                                  Hope all is well.
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                                                                                                  • Kimmykim
                                                                                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                    • 16015

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by 2HousePlague
                                                                                                    Oooooh -- a little right-wing venom in there, Kim --

                                                                                                    What are you reading these days?

                                                                                                    It's one thing to insist a site hold its own in the open marketplace. But I'm just talking about B2B business terms here.


                                                                                                    j-
                                                                                                    Haha, nothing too right wing, just simple economics. Of course I still think Ayn Rand has a place in heaven ;)

                                                                                                    I just read a really amazing book, The curious incident of the dog in the night-time. British author, exceptionally intriguing writing style, imo.

                                                                                                    Also reading a book called Total Loss, about sailboats sunk at sea... I figure as much racing as I'm doing lately, I might as well be prepared lol... especially since a boat sank during the Wednesday night races two weeks ago here in the Marina.

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