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04-30-2005, 06:13 PM

Whats are some of the things that piss you off about affiliate programs, other than not having true 24-7 support.

And what do you wish affiliate programs offered to their webmasters?

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04-30-2005, 06:31 PM

Fully customisable galleries.......... some of their text/graphics is awful.

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04-30-2005, 06:33 PM

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Fully customisable galleries.......... some of their text/graphics is awful.

you mean, make your own gallery like most people do already?
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04-30-2005, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by d00t

you mean, make your own gallery like most people do already?

their content on a basic template would do for now.....

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04-30-2005, 06:34 PM

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04-30-2005, 06:36 PM

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04-30-2005, 06:37 PM

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04-30-2005, 06:38 PM

NO upsales in the members area on a revshare program, especially to other sites.
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04-30-2005, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by pr0

Whats are some of the things that piss you off about affiliate programs, other than not having true 24-7 support.

And what do you wish affiliate programs offered to their webmasters?

good thread. Be interesting to hear what are the extra things an affiliate program can offer.

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04-30-2005, 06:44 PM

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That's what I was going to say

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04-30-2005, 06:46 PM

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And what do you wish affiliate programs offered to their webmasters?

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04-30-2005, 07:30 PM

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NO upsales in the members area on a revshare program, especially to other sites.

interesting idea...alot of members areas do infact oversell inside, & that causes people to leave like a mofo

i've seen it happen 100x...

now on a per-signup, they may be trying to cover their costs, but with revshare they have less of an excuse...good call

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04-30-2005, 07:31 PM

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I believe ARS tried that back in 02' wasn't it? 02' or 03' i forget....

I guess its not around anymore?

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04-30-2005, 07:34 PM

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that would be cool if ccbill offered that for the serious webmasters/affiliates

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04-30-2005, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by pr0

interesting idea...alot of members areas do infact oversell inside, & that causes people to leave like a mofo

i've seen it happen 100x...

now on a per-signup, they may be trying to cover their costs, but with revshare they have less of an excuse...good call

I agree. On per signup, they can do what they want with the customer I sent them. I got paid for the signup, not the rebilling.

But on revshare, the idea is to make money off the customer recurring. And A LOT of revshare sponsors are upselling sites in their member areas that are better than the one the customer I just sent joined. So if he signs up to a site promoted in the members area, you bet he is going to cancel his membership. Poof, recurring gone.

I was in the members area of a very popular site today, the girl with the hoof foot or whatever it is called. It is a revshare program, and you would not BELIEVE the upsells in her members area. Complete bullshit. Traffic was stopped instantly after I saw that. I'll never promote that program again.

Upselling on revshare is nothing but a ripoff to the affiliate. And not too many affiliates are going to go to the effort to check out members areas, so it largely goes unnoticed.
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04-30-2005, 07:40 PM

Yup, pushing a hard upsell in the members area to another site like their own is pretty ridiculous, it just shows you they really don't have the revshare affiliate in mind.

Now upsells like live-cams, games, toys stuff like that don't take away from retention in my mind, if its just a regular porn site/dating site.

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04-30-2005, 07:41 PM

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Fully customisable galleries.......... some of their text/graphics is awful.

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04-30-2005, 07:44 PM

I would like affiliate programs to stop giving away so many free tools to their webmasters. I'm not even joking.

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04-30-2005, 07:50 PM

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I would like affiliate programs to stop giving away so many free tools to their webmasters. I'm not even joking.

Making it too easy for newbies to saturate the market? Whats your major issue with that sly dawg

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04-30-2005, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by pr0

Making it too easy for newbies to saturate the market? Whats your major issue with that sly dawg

You just answered your own question.

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04-30-2005, 07:52 PM

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04-30-2005, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by nudecanada

I agree. On per signup, they can do what they want with the customer I sent them. I got paid for the signup, not the rebilling.

But on revshare, the idea is to make money off the customer recurring. And A LOT of revshare sponsors are upselling sites in their member areas that are better than the one the customer I just sent joined. So if he signs up to a site promoted in the members area, you bet he is going to cancel his membership. Poof, recurring gone.

I was in the members area of a very popular site today, the girl with the hoof foot or whatever it is called. It is a revshare program, and you would not BELIEVE the upsells in her members area. Complete bullshit. Traffic was stopped instantly after I saw that. I'll never promote that program again.

Upselling on revshare is nothing but a ripoff to the affiliate. And not too many affiliates are going to go to the effort to check out members areas, so it largely goes unnoticed.

I couldn't agree more. I see this all the time and it's BULLSHIT. It's often under some silly last end link inside the members area like "extras" or something. If it's PPS do what you want.... if it's revshare don't fucking do that.

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04-30-2005, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by nudecanada

NO upsales in the members area on a revshare program, especially to other sites.

Yes I'v been talking to people who think some site are only there to upsell, a sale that pays the traffic generator nothing.

But if you send traffic to one of these sites who is to blame?

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04-30-2005, 11:59 PM

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05-01-2005, 12:03 AM

I think from affil program I only need content ...the rest doesn't matter

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05-01-2005, 12:05 AM

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05-01-2005, 12:05 AM

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05-01-2005, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by pr0

Yup, pushing a hard upsell in the members area to another site like their own is pretty ridiculous, it just shows you they really don't have the revshare affiliate in mind.

Now upsells like live-cams, games, toys stuff like that don't take away from retention in my mind, if its just a regular porn site/dating site.

But on the other hand in an industry where people boast of a 3 month retention, what is wrong in getting the member to sign up to another site when he leaves?

I suppose it depends on the aim of the site owner. Is he trying to get a few bucks as the member leaves after a couple of months or is he just trying to get them in so he can upsell them straight out?

some of out best traffic is coming from two paysites we sell content to, but it seems the members coming over are looking for a new place to get porn, some are even commenting they have seen some of the sets before.

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05-01-2005, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by pr0

interesting idea...alot of members areas do infact oversell inside, & that causes people to leave like a mofo

i've seen it happen 100x...

now on a per-signup, they may be trying to cover their costs, but with revshare they have less of an excuse...good call

what would be good is payment for the upsells even if the percentage was the same (ie 60%)

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05-01-2005, 02:38 AM

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what would be good is payment for the upsells even if the percentage was the same (ie 60%)

like that'll ever happen

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05-01-2005, 02:38 AM

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05-01-2005, 03:20 AM

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05-01-2005, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by pr0

Whats are some of the things that piss you off about affiliate programs, other than not having true 24-7 support.

And what do you wish affiliate programs offered to their webmasters?

Sometimes i miss picture of the day in some affiliate programas.
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