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  • Nysus
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2001
    • 7817
    #1

    Anyone playing the SEO game afraid?

    It's currently a month-to-month high-risk game.

    Do you have an exit plan? Do you have a piggy bank of cash to retire on already? What's your plan?

    Discuss.

    Cheers,
    Matt
    What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

    Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

    See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645
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    • Fucksakes
      Shit... Fuck! What the Hell?
      • Dec 2003
      • 7567
      #2
      do you do anything but ask questions?

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        • WiredGuy
          Pounding Googlebot
          • Aug 2002
          • 34515
          #3
          I do have exit strategies and contingency plans, but I don't see the immediate need to employ them. It's a very volatile market, but the PPC and PPI models offer quite some stability. The free traffic rankings at this point make up the bread and butter. PPC is secure and stable enough to make a living on. The rest is just gravy

          WG
          I play with Google.

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            • Dawgy
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2001
              • 5856
              #4
              Originally posted by WiredGuy
              I do have exit strategies and contingency plans, but I don't see the immediate need to employ them. It's a very volatile market, but the PPC and PPI models offer quite some stability. The free traffic rankings at this point make up the bread and butter. PPC is secure and stable enough to make a living on. The rest is just gravy

              WG
              god has spoken. lol
              the revolution is coming.

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                • cluck
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 5248
                  #5
                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                  I do have exit strategies and contingency plans, but I don't see the immediate need to employ them. It's a very volatile market, but the PPC and PPI models offer quite some stability. The free traffic rankings at this point make up the bread and butter. PPC is secure and stable enough to make a living on. The rest is just gravy

                  WG
                  Shhh everyone thinks PPC is saturated. I'll have you know I worked hard to prepetuate those rumors
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                    • Nysus
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 7817
                      #6
                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                      I do have exit strategies and contingency plans, but I don't see the immediate need to employ them. It's a very volatile market, but the PPC and PPI models offer quite some stability. The free traffic rankings at this point make up the bread and butter. PPC is secure and stable enough to make a living on. The rest is just gravy

                      WG
                      Hehe. Yeah, PPC is certainly a more secure model though fairly under-explored from what I've seen.

                      Danny - I love you.

                      Cheers,
                      Matt
                      What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                      Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                      See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                        • WiredGuy
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 34515
                          #7
                          Originally posted by cluck
                          Shhh everyone thinks PPC is saturated. I'll have you know I worked hard to prepetuate those rumors
                          It's so cut-throat and competitive right now, you'd need to burn a lot of cash to get into it. I like that! Keeps the newbies and smaller players out

                          WG
                          I play with Google.

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                            • JamesK
                              hi
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 16731
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Dawgy

                              god has spoken. lol
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                                • WiredGuy
                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 34515
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Dawgy
                                  god has spoken. lol
                                  I play with Google.

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                                    • Nysus
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 7817
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy


                                      It's so cut-throat and competitive right now, you'd need to burn a lot of cash to get into it. I like that! Keeps the newbies and smaller players out

                                      WG
                                      I don't think you really could get a fair assessment of the traffic with small amounts of money anyways.

                                      Cheers,
                                      Matt
                                      What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                                      Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                                      See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                                        • Tipsy
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 6989
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Nysus
                                          It's currently a month-to-month high-risk game.

                                          Do you have an exit plan? Do you have a piggy bank of cash to retire on already? What's your plan?

                                          Discuss.

                                          Cheers,
                                          Matt

                                          It's already FAR too late to be in it and be afraid. Those still banking from it, by whatever method, will be doing so in X months time. Those who can't hack it or adapt quickly are gone or already making their money elsewhere.
                                          Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                            • Doctor Dre
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 51692
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by cluck


                                              Shhh everyone thinks PPC is saturated. I'll have you know I worked hard to prepetuate those rumors
                                              As you did for TGO right ? u seems like a big joke too me right now (sorry if you aren't). But 2 times the same kind of answer in 2 different threads ...
                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                • Doctor Dre
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 51692
                                                  #13
                                                  Hrmm sorry about the joke thign just looked at your sig ... at least that one is true . What TGO do you have ?
                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                    • mb
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 1550
                                                      #14
                                                      Are we only talking about PPC here? The topic says SEO, which is all forms of search engine optimization. Nothing to worry about if you run clean, freshly updated sites full of interesting content. Those types of sites will always fair well in the SEs because that's what they want surfers to discover. Those employing trickery and such should definately start making their exit strategy now because the SE game is getting tighter. The high profile engines are consolidating and improving algorithms... it's no longer a free for all for spammers.

                                                      marc

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                                                        • Rictor
                                                          Old Timer
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 12208
                                                          #15
                                                          Is the sex.com spam bot broken?

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                                                            • slapass
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 14625
                                                              #16
                                                              Not sure why I would be afraid. Quit reading the major SEO forum and just do. No more fear or worries just traffic.

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                                                                • davethetruth
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                  • 2806
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy


                                                                  It's so cut-throat and competitive right now, you'd need to burn a lot of cash to get into it. I like that! Keeps the newbies and smaller players out

                                                                  WG
                                                                  This is very true!

                                                                  I was able to start out experimenting when PPC was brand new, but now you need to spend tens of thousands of dollars for it to be worthwhile. Many people don't even bother and I don't blame them.
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                                                                    • davethetruth
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                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                      • 2806
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by mb
                                                                      Nothing to worry about if you run clean, freshly updated sites full of interesting content. Those types of sites will always fair well in the SEs because that's what they want surfers to discover. marc
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                                                                        • Dracula
                                                                          Registered User
                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                          • 62
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Nysus
                                                                          It's currently a month-to-month high-risk game.

                                                                          Matt
                                                                          Google: day to day high risk, full of tricks, spam, abuse
                                                                          Yahoo-MSN: still simple, and some of the abuse is quickly banned

                                                                          PPC - never. My keywords are simply too expensive. And I like big profits

                                                                          Btw, I'm glad to see on GFY so many good SEOs.
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                                                                            • davethetruth
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                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                              • 2806
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Dracula


                                                                              Google: day to day high risk, full of tricks, spam, abuse
                                                                              Yahoo-MSN: still simple, and some of the abuse is quickly banned

                                                                              PPC - never. My keywords are simply too expensive. And I like big profits

                                                                              Btw, I'm glad to see on GFY so many good SEOs.
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                                                                                • volante
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                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                  • 2940
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by davethetruth

                                                                                  I was able to start out experimenting when PPC was brand new, but now you need to spend tens of thousands of dollars for it to be worthwhile. Many people don't even bother and I don't blame them.
                                                                                  I made shitloads of money when Goto.com was initially launched, totally by accident (at first...) . For some reason best known to Goto, they only updated their listings once every hour, unless you had a new highest bid in which case they'd update immediately. I set up an account with bids on around 2000 keywords, all at the lowest bid and with $25 in my account. One minute after the listings updated, I'd raise the bids on all my keywords to whatever was needed to get them listed in first place.

                                                                                  A minute later, my account balance would be $0.00 (it NEVER went into a negative!) but my keywords would still be in first place for the rest of the hour! When the listings updated at the end of the hour, I'd reduce the bids to the minimum, add another $25 to my account, and raise all my bids again.

                                                                                  I was spending $25 per hour to earn $400 per hour. I got away with it for 4 days before Goto caught on and changed the way the listings were updated...

                                                                                  Last edited by volante; 04-13-2004, 05:19 PM.

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                                                                                    • AaronM
                                                                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                      • 46917
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Fucksakes
                                                                                      do you do anything but ask questions?
                                                                                      Is there a better way to learn?

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                                                                                        • Steen2
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                          • 7662
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                          I do have exit strategies and contingency plans, but I don't see the immediate need to employ them. It's a very volatile market, but the PPC and PPI models offer quite some stability. The free traffic rankings at this point make up the bread and butter. PPC is secure and stable enough to make a living on. The rest is just gravy

                                                                                          WG

                                                                                          word to that
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                                                                                            • Doctor Dre
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 51692
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Congrats nynsus you just got yourself the thread of the day .

                                                                                              The guys from playgirl were spending 100 k a day in SE traffic ... that's kinda crazy
                                                                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                • woj
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                  • 47880
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by volante


                                                                                                  I made shitloads of money when Goto.com was initially launched, totally by accident (at first...) . For some reason best known to Goto, they only updated their listings once every hour, unless you had a new highest bid in which case they'd update immediately. I set up an account with bids on around 2000 keywords, all at the lowest bid and with $25 in my account. One minute after the listings updated, I'd raise the bids on all my keywords to whatever was needed to get them listed in first place.

                                                                                                  A minute later, my account balance would be $0.00 (it NEVER went into a negative!) but my keywords would still be in first place for the rest of the hour! When the listings updated at the end of the hour, I'd reduce the bids to the minimum, add another $25 to my account, and raise all my bids again.

                                                                                                  I was spending $25 per hour to earn $400 per hour. I got away with it for 4 days before Goto caught on and changed the way the listings were updated...
                                                                                                  lol, that's awesome...
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                                                                                                    • XM
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                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                      • 406
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      If amount of sites in your imperium rises steadily the risk of month-to-month changes reduces greatly. I haven't seen any major changes in algo since Nov.03 and my traffic is pretty stable and growing based on how much stuff I am adding. Operating in large scales is the way to go, as in any other business.

                                                                                                      XM

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                                                                                                        • Rich
                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                          • 11486
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy


                                                                                                          It's so cut-throat and competitive right now, you'd need to burn a lot of cash to get into it. I like that! Keeps the newbies and smaller players out

                                                                                                          WG
                                                                                                          Agreed

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                                                                                                            • Sausage
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                              • 3012
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              SEO is an interesting occupation ;)

                                                                                                              But I don't see things changing too much, just the methods. You have to stay ahead, and I admit that trying to work out Yahoo's algorithim is causing me headaches. I can nail most minor listings but can't seem to get my target sites listed where I want them.

                                                                                                              Google never changes too much. minor tweaks here and there.

                                                                                                              You think the move to cpc listings will continue ?
                                                                                                              Last edited by Sausage; 04-14-2004, 01:44 AM.
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                                                                                                                • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                  • 28301
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by volante


                                                                                                                  I made shitloads of money when Goto.com was initially launched, totally by accident (at first...) . For some reason best known to Goto, they only updated their listings once every hour, unless you had a new highest bid in which case they'd update immediately. I set up an account with bids on around 2000 keywords, all at the lowest bid and with $25 in my account. One minute after the listings updated, I'd raise the bids on all my keywords to whatever was needed to get them listed in first place.

                                                                                                                  A minute later, my account balance would be $0.00 (it NEVER went into a negative!) but my keywords would still be in first place for the rest of the hour! When the listings updated at the end of the hour, I'd reduce the bids to the minimum, add another $25 to my account, and raise all my bids again.

                                                                                                                  I was spending $25 per hour to earn $400 per hour. I got away with it for 4 days before Goto caught on and changed the way the listings were updated...
                                                                                                                  haha nice story

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                                                                                                                    • Trax
                                                                                                                      [----------------------]
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                      • 14486
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Sausage
                                                                                                                      SEO is an interesting occupation ;)

                                                                                                                      But I don't see things changing too much, just the methods. You have to stay ahead, and I admit that trying to work out Yahoo's algorithim is causing me headaches. I can nail most minor listings but can't seem to get my target sites listed where I want them.

                                                                                                                      Google never changes too much. minor tweaks here and there.

                                                                                                                      i dont agree
                                                                                                                      google is a lot harder to optimize for than yahoo
                                                                                                                      yahoo is a joke right now lol
                                                                                                                      getting #1 spots for high value keywords really is a joke
                                                                                                                      on google its PURE LUCK... lol

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                                                                                                                        • WiredGuy
                                                                                                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                          • 34515
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by volante


                                                                                                                          I made shitloads of money when Goto.com was initially launched, totally by accident (at first...) . For some reason best known to Goto, they only updated their listings once every hour, unless you had a new highest bid in which case they'd update immediately. I set up an account with bids on around 2000 keywords, all at the lowest bid and with $25 in my account. One minute after the listings updated, I'd raise the bids on all my keywords to whatever was needed to get them listed in first place.

                                                                                                                          A minute later, my account balance would be $0.00 (it NEVER went into a negative!) but my keywords would still be in first place for the rest of the hour! When the listings updated at the end of the hour, I'd reduce the bids to the minimum, add another $25 to my account, and raise all my bids again.

                                                                                                                          I was spending $25 per hour to earn $400 per hour. I got away with it for 4 days before Goto caught on and changed the way the listings were updated...

                                                                                                                          LOL, that genious
                                                                                                                          Did Goto ever bill you for the other traffic?

                                                                                                                          WG
                                                                                                                          I play with Google.

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                                                                                                                            • Weppel
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                              • 2190
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by volante


                                                                                                                              I made shitloads of money when Goto.com was initially launched, totally by accident (at first...) . For some reason best known to Goto, they only updated their listings once every hour, unless you had a new highest bid in which case they'd update immediately. I set up an account with bids on around 2000 keywords, all at the lowest bid and with $25 in my account. One minute after the listings updated, I'd raise the bids on all my keywords to whatever was needed to get them listed in first place.

                                                                                                                              A minute later, my account balance would be $0.00 (it NEVER went into a negative!) but my keywords would still be in first place for the rest of the hour! When the listings updated at the end of the hour, I'd reduce the bids to the minimum, add another $25 to my account, and raise all my bids again.

                                                                                                                              I was spending $25 per hour to earn $400 per hour. I got away with it for 4 days before Goto caught on and changed the way the listings were updated...
                                                                                                                              If i would have known that, i wouldn't have left my house nor my computer for 4 straight days No sleep for me! 8 hours of sleep would cost you 3k

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                                                                                                                                • justsexxx
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 13723
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Well I guess this counts for every "method" of money making...

                                                                                                                                  Andre
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                                                                                                                                    • pussyluver
                                                                                                                                      Clueless OleMan
                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 11009
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Trax


                                                                                                                                      i dont agree
                                                                                                                                      google is a lot harder to optimize for than yahoo
                                                                                                                                      yahoo is a joke right now lol
                                                                                                                                      getting #1 spots for high value keywords really is a joke
                                                                                                                                      on google its PURE LUCK... lol


                                                                                                                                      And google is at least ten times the traffic for a cash keyword on top.

                                                                                                                                      I think those that say google is easy might be in for a surprise one day. If you've been on top for awhile and wear a black hat, things might be going fine for now. I don't think it will last.

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                                                                                                                                        • Steve
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                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Weppel


                                                                                                                                          If i would have known that, i wouldn't have left my house nor my computer for 4 straight days No sleep for me! 8 hours of sleep would cost you 3k
                                                                                                                                          indeed, non-stop coffee, or train someone to relieve you

                                                                                                                                          by the way, your sig file is like 50 feet tall in Mozilla

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                                                                                                                                            • erehwon
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                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                              It's so cut-throat and competitive right now, you'd need to burn a lot of cash to get into it. I like that! Keeps the newbies and smaller players out

                                                                                                                                              WG
                                                                                                                                              How much is "a lot of cash" on a daily, weekly basis to see the results that make PPC worthwhile?
                                                                                                                                              Money NEVER $leep$...

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                                                                                                                                                • crash
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Just my 2 cents
                                                                                                                                                  SEO (spamming) is a constantly moving target with google. But, the target doesnt really move very far.

                                                                                                                                                  If you know how to generate PR and build spam sites and how to feed the PR effectively into your spam sites, your on easy street. Oh, and of course, you have to produce sites faster than they are banned. If you can do that, the general trend is a continuing increase in revenue

                                                                                                                                                  I gave up reading all the SEO forums a year ago. Those fuckers always say this doesnt work and doing that will get you banned. Its all crap, just build things slightly differently every time you do a build, and you know what works best.

                                                                                                                                                  Of course, you have to increase automation to replace banned sites, to keep increasing revenue, but thats what programmers are for.

                                                                                                                                                  Half the fun of this game is beating the system, thats my reward anyway - and of course $$
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                                                                                                                                                    • davethetruth
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
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                                                                                                                                                        • crash
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Dave
                                                                                                                                                          nope
                                                                                                                                                          I work for my wife and kid

                                                                                                                                                          Seriously, its just me and my computer
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                                                                                                                                                            • cluck
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Doctor Dre


                                                                                                                                                              As you did for TGO right ? u seems like a big joke too me right now (sorry if you aren't). But 2 times the same kind of answer in 2 different threads ...
                                                                                                                                                              LOL, I was joking about TGO. I think half of GFY doesn't realize TGO is a misspelling of TGP.

                                                                                                                                                              Seriously though PPC isn't that hard to make money at from an advertiser standpoint. Even adwords or overture at 0.05-0.10/click seems pricey but with good copy and a good range of properly targetted keywords you can easily turn a good profit.
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                                                                                                                                                                • Rorschach
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  interesting

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Downtime
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                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 7320
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      all business entails some form of risk, if it's too stressful for you then go work for someone and sit in a cubicle all day filling out TPS reports.

                                                                                                                                                                      yes i play the SEO game, but the majority of my traffic still comes from other sources. just have a backup, whether it's money or traffic; something.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • TheJimmy
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 10747
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          It's all about the Meta Tags man, all about the Meta Tags ;)


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                                                                                                                                                                            • Basic_man
                                                                                                                                                                              Programming King Pin
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 27360
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              I wish I had WG skills !
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                                                                                                                                                                                • swedguy
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 7981
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Basic_man
                                                                                                                                                                                  I wish I had WG skills !
                                                                                                                                                                                  Amen to that

                                                                                                                                                                                  I just play nice and clean and that's enough for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Tempest
                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 10217
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      I'll say it since no one else has yet...

                                                                                                                                                                                      There's no money in SEO.. Go build your thumb TGPs.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Phoenix
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 35475
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          im doing well with our ppc accounts...going to increase
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 19634
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              seo spamming should be viewed no different than email spamming. when im trying to find what i need it wastes valuable production time! you're wasting everyones time! bastards.
                                                                                                                                                                                              you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Agnosticism
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 100
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  seo spamming should be viewed no different than email spamming. when im trying to find what i need it wastes valuable production time! you're wasting everyones time! bastards.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Used to be insane a couple years ago. Using SE's to find criteria was utterly pointless and that is when I switch to specific boards to find links and information about certain subjects. But yes SEO's (SE Spammers) waste a lot of consumers time and affect certain classes of IPs (Pretty much the same as RBLs. I view SEO being more random with locales then e-mail spammers mostly because spammers are bound to be in some asian country while SEO are found over the globe... mostly clean US/EU c-class IPs. So all and all I really don't think SEOs are going to get the whip because just like spyware it is hard to pin point the people and there taking more money from the typical consumer rather then the big corporations. Down with SEO :X

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Tempest
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 10217
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Agnosticism
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Used to be insane a couple years ago. Using SE's to find criteria was utterly pointless and that is when I switch to specific boards to find links and information about certain subjects. But yes SEO's (SE Spammers) waste a lot of consumers time and affect certain classes of IPs (Pretty much the same as RBLs. I view SEO being more random with locales then e-mail spammers mostly because spammers are bound to be in some asian country while SEO are found over the globe... mostly clean US/EU c-class IPs. So all and all I really don't think SEOs are going to get the whip because just like spyware it is hard to pin point the people and there taking more money from the typical consumer rather then the big corporations. Down with SEO :X
                                                                                                                                                                                                      SEO is search engine optimization... what you're talking about is more "black hat" SEO.

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