Slavik kicks Domain King's butt in domain battle over voyuer.com

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  • GeorgeK
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2003
    • 423

    #1

    Slavik kicks Domain King's butt in domain battle over voyuer.com

    As reported elsewhere, there was a battle of the domain titans Slavik Viner ("Xedoc") and "Domain King" Rick Schwartz ("Virtual Dates") over voyuer.com at the National Arbitration Forum:

    http://www.arb-forum.com/domains/decisions/433802.htm

    Complainant is Virtual Dates, Inc. (?Complainant?), represented by Howard Neu of Law Office of Howard Neu, P.A., 1152 North University Drive, Pembroke Pines, FL 33024.
    [...]
    Complainant?s additional submission consists of an Affidavit of Richard Schwartz...
    [...]
    The Panel is most disturbed by Complainant?s additional submission. The Schwartz declaration is unsupported by any evidence. The Schwartz Declaration contradicts the very trademark application on which Complainant basis its request for relief.
    [...]
    Complainant mischaracterizes the decision in The Cold War Museum v. Nicolas Jampol, FA96594 (Nat. Arb. Forum Feb. 8, 2001).
    [...]
    Schwartz? misleading affidavit...
    [...]
    Complainant has not established all three elements required under the ICANN Policy; the Panel concludes that relief shall be DENIED.

    Slavik holds onto the domain, in victory. I told Domain King his trademark registrations were worthless, years ago. Glad to see that Slavik and the Panel agreed.

    That makes 3 UDRP losses for "the King", the other 2 being for racingform.com and adtsucks.com, see:

    http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/dec...d2001-1032.html
    http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/dec...d2001-0213.html

    Way to go, Slavik.
    I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com
  • leedsfan
    leedsfan
    • Jul 2002
    • 2564

    #2
    george.

    they are arguing over a mispell?

    www.voyeur.com is the correct spelling.
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    • decrypted
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2004
      • 370

      #3
      still worth it
      i misspell it everytime im lookin for por...errr i mean working....

      Konrad - ICQ 59416956

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      • Joesho
        want to get in shape
        • Jan 2003
        • 12329

        #4
        congratulations Slavik.
        Got any domains to sell?
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        • GeorgeK
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2003
          • 423

          #5
          That was a $112,100 domain at SnapNames, if folks don't realize the value and significance of that type-in.

          http://www.multireg.com/article547.html
          I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

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          • nojob
            The Original NoJob
            • Feb 2004
            • 3682

            #6
            Slavik is a PIMP! Nice meeting you in vegas. Had a good time at ICE and the sky box.

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            • DaddyHalbucks
              A freakin' legend!
              • Feb 2004
              • 18975

              #7
              Slavik is a very successful young man.
              Boner Money

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              • polish_aristocrat
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2002
                • 40377

                #8
                Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                Slavik is a very successful young man.
                young?

                how old is he if that is not a secret?
                I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                • Theo
                  HAL 9000
                  • May 2001
                  • 34515

                  #9
                  seems more like a personal beef than a legit claim to me

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                  • GeorgeK
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 423

                    #10
                    Spend under $2000 at UDRP, to take a shot at a $100,000+ domain. But, lose your reputation when they find against you.

                    Here's to a 3-time loser.
                    I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

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                    • Manga1
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 952

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                      seems more like a personal beef than a legit claim to me
                      Yeah, sounds like Rick was pissed because Slavik knew how much voyeur.com made and therefore how much to pay for the typo.

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                      • BradShaw
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 7840

                        #12
                        I am lost, why were they fighting over it? Do not tell me mr. airbursh tried to get it for free since he owns the non mis-spell?
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                        • GeorgeK
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 423

                          #13
                          Rick will have to settle for his "billions" of dollars worth of domains:

                          http://www.webmastering.com/busplan.htm

                          "My $2 million investment has a current net worth of over $1 billion in RAW and UNDEVELOPED .com assets just waiting to be developed and brought to the next level."

                          (screenshot at http://www.loffs.com/images/domainkingbillions.gif in case the original link mysteriously changes)

                          I wonder if the ex-wife's divorce lawyer is aware of that domain portfolio valuation? $500 million would be a big payout for her, if she in entitled to half.
                          I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

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                          • GeorgeK
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 423

                            #14
                            Bradshaw: yeah, he took a shot at trying to get it on the cheap. Kudos to Slavik for not bowing down before his one-time mentor.

                            Are there any folks still left on Rick's private board, in the face of this humiliating defeat?
                            I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

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                            • DaddyHalbucks
                              A freakin' legend!
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 18975

                              #15
                              Originally posted by GeorgeK
                              I wonder if the ex-wife's divorce lawyer is aware of that domain portfolio valuation? $500 million would be a big payout for her, if she in entitled to half.
                              What was the settlement with Jo Anne Schwartz?

                              Does anyone know how much money JoAnne Schwartz got?
                              Boner Money

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                              • Lee
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 2977

                                #16
                                George, you might be gloating because you got booted but he is still one successful guy. Was he wrong to go for the mis-spell? probably so, but Jeez dude.

                                Hal, wouldnt you consider that personal?

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                                • GeorgeK
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2003
                                  • 423

                                  #17
                                  If one measures "success" by losing UDRPs, he has me beat by a country mile.
                                  I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

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                                  • DaddyHalbucks
                                    A freakin' legend!
                                    • Feb 2004
                                    • 18975

                                    #18
                                    Lee,

                                    I am just wondering if it was close to the $500 million number that he estimates is half his net worth.
                                    Boner Money

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                                    • GeorgeK
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2003
                                      • 423

                                      #19
                                      http://dnjournal.com/columns/cover020204.htm

                                      Schwartz concluded, ?what I do is legal and moral, what some others in the business do is illegal. Like hijacking domains, extortion, stealing content and worse. We can call them crooks because that is exactly what they are. Then we have the infringers that try and extort money from companies and that practice gives us all a bad name. They are the true cyber squatters that have soiled all our good names and had us all painted with the same brush as they are.?

                                      Schwartz believes that ?making statements like that makes me an unpopular guy among every infringer, cyber squatter, hijacker and every other wrong doer. There is a small but vocal group that never misses an opportunity to say something nasty or make some crap up about me. So when you hear the attacks, look a little deeper and you usually find a motive.?

                                      It's statements like the above that beg for one to point out the hypocrisy -- he's the one with the 3 UDRP losses. I can only imagine the emails he sent to Slavik before filing the UDRP for voyuer.com.
                                      I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

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