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  • Doctor Dre
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 51692

    #201
    Originally posted by sonofsam
    i agree.... i think you should pay the russian guy and then change your conditions... what it looks like.. and correct me if i'm wrong.... you guys made this deal.. and after this guy made this much money, you guys don't want to pay.... russian guy is not at fault for your offer....
    Dude ... omfg ... PPC sponsors will terminate your account for much much much less . There is also a part in their TOS that say they can do pretty much wahtever they want . So tehy are doign nothing illegal now . They are only beeing totally unprofetional and bullshitting all arround . They are doign the right decision by not paying him (I'm sure even ARS or Lens in that situation wouldn't pay him)
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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    • Trax
      [----------------------]
      • Aug 2001
      • 14486

      #202
      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
      Dude ... omfg ... PPC sponsors will terminate your account for much much much less . There is also a part in their TOS that say they can do pretty much wahtever they want . So tehy are doign nothing illegal now . They are only beeing totally unprofetional and bullshitting all arround . They are doign the right decision by not paying him (I'm sure even ARS or Lens in that situation wouldn't pay him)
      nobody I know would either
      I also agree that to the bullshitting around comment.
      well said dre

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      • yys
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2001
        • 1922

        #203
        Originally posted by Doctor Dre
        Ok so you mean if I send 1 signup this week (1:1 ratio) , I'l get a buck a click next week ? If I sent 500k uniques, you will send me 500k $ ?

        I highly doubt that ...

        No shit. I'd like to know if I can send them 15-20 sales one week and then dump all the traffic I can on them for the $1 a click. I highly doubt they'd pay out. They should really rework their terms with a mandatory ratio to stay at the $1 ppc level; all other ppc programs have this for a reason.

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        • Rui
          web
          • Dec 2001
          • 9533

          #204
          He would be stupid or under influence of something pretty strong if he thought such "scheme" would work....

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          • Doctor Dre
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jan 2001
            • 51692

            #205
            Originally posted by Rui
            He would be stupid or under influence of something pretty strong if he thought such "scheme" would work....
            No dUUUUUUUH
            Originally posted by rayadp05
            I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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            • fuzebox
              making it rain
              • Oct 2003
              • 22371

              #206
              I can't believe there are still people rooting for this guy.

              Lex, were you seriously expecting a $35k+ wire next week?

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              • Doctor Dre
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2001
                • 51692

                #207
                Originally posted by fuzebox
                I can't believe there are still people rooting for this guy.

                Lex, were you seriously expecting a $35k+ wire next week?
                I'm not 'rooting' for this guy ... I'm just saying, when a sponsor make a major mistake like that, and blame everything but themselves, there is a serious problem ... if fuckups happen one day, will it be everybody's problems but theirs ?

                I'm NOT saying they should pay the guy . Actually they should move him on a PPS sheme or something like that .

                I'm saying they should admit their mistake and move on, and change the rules to fix the problem instead of telling lies after lies trying to discredit the guy that sent the traffic and played the game .
                Originally posted by rayadp05
                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                • will76
                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                  • May 2003
                  • 18037

                  #208
                  Originally posted by Trax
                  IwantU simply created a stupid payout scale... I mean... how stupid do you have to be to not see the potentiality of fraud over there...
                  thats newbee'ish to say the least
                  more than 5 ways to abuse this system further come to my mind without them knowing i'd be abusing it
                  just because the traffic would be productive.
                  why have such a model anyways??
                  I agree the whole ppc system is flawed. What if he went and PAID $.50 a click one week and his average is .25 per click with you guys, then the next week he sends 35K hits from trash traffic. so you owe him $8,750. He doesn't get any chargebacks from week before so you cant scream fraud. Would you have paid him then???? just curious don't see how any one uses ppc method.
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                  • adultvisitors
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1417

                    #209
                    Top earner made $10k only so far this month???
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                    • Dalai lama
                      Strength and Honor
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 16540

                      #210
                      he's kicked already

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                      • SAM SIYC
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 999

                        #211
                        wow....I can feel the LOVE on this thread
                        I honestly do not wish this to happen to any other program!

                        After talking with Lex on icq now. I think we agree that there was some confusion with these stats.
                        The problem is that when, as an affiliate program, you decide to show your top 100 LIVE, because you have nothing to hide, it can backfire on you if there has been an error somewhere.

                        Untill the error is corrected......what happens: you try to survive a gfy storm
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                        • SAM SIYC
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 999

                          #212
                          and btw, after talking to Lex, I honestly beleive he had NO intentions of frauding or spamming the program.....
                          things just turned out real bad....and it escalated on the boards!
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                          • Rui
                            web
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 9533

                            #213
                            Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                            No dUUUUUUUH
                            Somebody really needs their brain checked if they think this guy deserves the $35k....

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                            • RawAlex
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 9465

                              #214
                              I had a ppc cmpany drop one of my accounts because they got too many SE bot hits (I had links on a site that got a ton of bot action). They had no way or no desire to filter it out, so it became unproductive traffic so they got rid of me.

                              When I stopped laughing, I called them idiots and moved on.

                              Alex

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                              • psyko514
                                See sig. Join Epic Cash.
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 22366

                                #215
                                Dude, you're a fucking retard. You've posted in this thread 8 times, you've attacked IwantU, but you haven't even read the entire thread.

                                IwantU has already admitted there was a flaw in their PPC payout structure and that they'll be changing it to avoid a similar situation in the future.

                                His account has not been cancelled. It's been switched over to a lower PPC payout rate, as per there terms and conditions.

                                One hit, one signup is sketchy, no matter what anyone says. Someone would have to get extremely lucky to have a ratio like that, especially on a PPC program. And if IwantU says the signup became a chargeback, I don't doubt it. Anyone who does needs to get their head checked.

                                And since that signup became a chargeback, it negates the payout increase to $1 per click seeing as how the conditions for that payout are no longer true.

                                You guys can be dicks and speculate all you want about what would have happened if the signup was legit. Fact is no one will ever know, and more importantly, IT DOESN'T MATTER. The signup wasn't legit and assuming what the company would've done if it was only makes you look like an ass.

                                Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                I'm not 'rooting' for this guy ... I'm just saying, when a sponsor make a major mistake like that, and blame everything but themselves, there is a serious problem ... if fuckups happen one day, will it be everybody's problems but theirs ?

                                I'm NOT saying they should pay the guy . Actually they should move him on a PPS sheme or something like that .

                                I'm saying they should admit their mistake and move on, and change the rules to fix the problem instead of telling lies after lies trying to discredit the guy that sent the traffic and played the game .

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                                • iwantu
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 570

                                  #216
                                  Originally posted by psyko514
                                  Dude, you're a fucking retard. You've posted in this thread 8 times, you've attacked IwantU, but you haven't even read the entire thread.

                                  IwantU has already admitted there was a flaw in their PPC payout structure and that they'll be changing it to avoid a similar situation in the future.

                                  His account has not been cancelled. It's been switched over to a lower PPC payout rate, as per there terms and conditions.

                                  One hit, one signup is sketchy, no matter what anyone says. Someone would have to get extremely lucky to have a ratio like that, especially on a PPC program. And if IwantU says the signup became a chargeback, I don't doubt it. Anyone who does needs to get their head checked.

                                  And since that signup became a chargeback, it negates the payout increase to $1 per click seeing as how the conditions for that payout are no longer true.

                                  You guys can be dicks and speculate all you want about what would have happened if the signup was legit. Fact is no one will ever know, and more importantly, IT DOESN'T MATTER. The signup wasn't legit and assuming what the company would've done if it was only makes you look like an ass.
                                  Thank you for the constructive comment psyko514!

                                  IwantU.com has resolved the situation with Lex and we came up to an agreement. We do not like to have unhappy affiliates!


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                                  • JD
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Sep 2003
                                    • 22651

                                    #217
                                    Originally posted by iwantu
                                    Thank you for the constructive comment psyko514!

                                    IwantU.com has resolved the situation with Lex and we came up to an agreement. We do not like to have unhappy affiliates!
                                    just out of curiousity what was the agreement?

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                                    • Lex Bed
                                      Registered User
                                      • Feb 2005
                                      • 72

                                      #218
                                      It's me here again.
                                      As iwantu supports told me that 1 sign up i had on the previous week was "deleted" coz there
                                      was a "return". So it means that I had ratio 1:0 and this why I'm not in the top100.
                                      We made an agreement and everything gonna be allright. Have a nice day guys
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                                      • SAM SIYC
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2005
                                        • 999

                                        #219
                                        Happy the problem is fixed.....

                                        gfy storm calming down

                                        party can continue
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                                        • [CG]
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2005
                                          • 306

                                          #220
                                          alright!

                                          So now I dont have to worry about anyone jumping IWU_Sam and Varius at the WA here next week! I can walk around with them safely

                                          So we all go for a drink on it then!
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                                          • Brujah
                                            Beer Money Baron
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 22157

                                            #221
                                            Originally posted by IwantU SAM
                                            and btw, after talking to Lex, I honestly beleive he had NO intentions of frauding or spamming the program.....
                                            things just turned out real bad....and it escalated on the boards!
                                            LOL riiiiggggghhhhttttttt.

                                            Wednesday 1click, 1signup
                                            No traffic til that magic $1 per click day, then BAM! Sudden flood of shit traffic.

                                            Yep, sounds perfectly honest to me.

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                                            • sonofsam
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Dec 2004
                                              • 18648

                                              #222
                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                              LOL riiiiggggghhhhttttttt.

                                              Wednesday 1click, 1signup
                                              No traffic til that magic $1 per click day, then BAM! Sudden flood of shit traffic.

                                              Yep, sounds perfectly honest to me.
                                              he didn't deny buying traffic....
                                              I like turtles.

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                                              • SAM SIYC
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Apr 2005
                                                • 999

                                                #223
                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                LOL riiiiggggghhhhttttttt.

                                                Wednesday 1click, 1signup
                                                No traffic til that magic $1 per click day, then BAM! Sudden flood of shit traffic.

                                                Yep, sounds perfectly honest to me.

                                                Most important: everything is back to normal
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                                                • Paparazzi
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 3488

                                                  #224
                                                  Originally posted by iwantu
                                                  Good point.

                                                  We are going to fix that in the future by applying the ratio DAILY. So for the pay per click program only, afiliates will earn a PPC based on the day ratio.

                                                  As for other programs, they are all based on the number of signups sent.

                                                  Thanks for the comment.
                                                  If it was a legit signup he sent you it seems you owe him $35k...he played by your rules you had before. Call it abuse or whatever, you guys did NOT have a specific rule about this and now you changed to ratio DAILY. You made a mistake and got owned big time. This should cost you a bit of money but ofcourse you will not pay him $1/click for all his traffic.

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                                                  • Brujah
                                                    Beer Money Baron
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 22157

                                                    #225
                                                    Originally posted by Paparazzi
                                                    If it was a legit signup he sent you it seems you owe him $35k...he played by your rules you had before. Call it abuse or whatever, you guys did NOT have a specific rule about this and now you changed to ratio DAILY. You made a mistake and got owned big time. This should cost you a bit of money but ofcourse you will not pay him $1/click for all his traffic.
                                                    You're starting to look really stupid. Reading is fundamental.

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                                                    • will76
                                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 18037

                                                      #226
                                                      Originally posted by Lex Bed
                                                      It's me here again.
                                                      As iwantu supports told me that 1 sign up i had on the previous week was "deleted" coz there
                                                      was a "return". So it means that I had ratio 1:0 and this why I'm not in the top100.
                                                      We made an agreement and everything gonna be allright. Have a nice day guys
                                                      i wonder if they gave you more money then they are giving in their contest to make this thread stop... you seem happy, i am sure you got
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                                                      • Theo
                                                        HAL 9000
                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 34515

                                                        #227
                                                        here's a wise word i think alex from san diego told me in the past:

                                                        no sponsor will pay you more than what your traffic worths regardless if its' pps, ppc...and that's the bottom line of all payout schemes and this thread.

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                                                        • iwantu
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 570

                                                          #228
                                                          Originally posted by Paparazzi
                                                          If it was a legit signup he sent you it seems you owe him $35k...he played by your rules you had before. Call it abuse or whatever, you guys did NOT have a specific rule about this and now you changed to ratio DAILY. You made a mistake and got owned big time. This should cost you a bit of money but ofcourse you will not pay him $1/click for all his traffic.
                                                          Please read the thread entirely.
                                                          We never changed our rules and will never do. The only member that the affiliate referred resulted in a chargeback. Thus, his ratio dropped and his payout dropped.

                                                          Please read the thread again and let me know of any question.


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                                                          • iwantu
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                            • 570

                                                            #229
                                                            Originally posted by will76
                                                            i wonder if they gave you more money then they are giving in their contest to make this thread stop... you seem happy, i am sure you got
                                                            We have been running this affiliate program since 1996! One unhappy affiliate will tell 7. So we prefer not to have unhappy affiliates ;-)


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                                                            • iwantu
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 570

                                                              #230
                                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                                              LOL riiiiggggghhhhttttttt.

                                                              Wednesday 1click, 1signup
                                                              No traffic til that magic $1 per click day, then BAM! Sudden flood of shit traffic.

                                                              Yep, sounds perfectly honest to me.
                                                              It could be possible though! We seen it happen before. Sometimes, the affiliates signup themselves to try to program as well.


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                                                              • Doctor Dre
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 51692

                                                                #231
                                                                Originally posted by psyko514
                                                                Dude, you're a fucking retard. You've posted in this thread 8 times, you've attacked IwantU, but you haven't even read the entire thread.

                                                                IwantU has already admitted there was a flaw in their PPC payout structure and that they'll be changing it to avoid a similar situation in the future.

                                                                His account has not been cancelled. It's been switched over to a lower PPC payout rate, as per there terms and conditions.

                                                                One hit, one signup is sketchy, no matter what anyone says. Someone would have to get extremely lucky to have a ratio like that, especially on a PPC program. And if IwantU says the signup became a chargeback, I don't doubt it. Anyone who does needs to get their head checked.

                                                                And since that signup became a chargeback, it negates the payout increase to $1 per click seeing as how the conditions for that payout are no longer true.

                                                                You guys can be dicks and speculate all you want about what would have happened if the signup was legit. Fact is no one will ever know, and more importantly, IT DOESN'T MATTER. The signup wasn't legit and assuming what the company would've done if it was only makes you look like an ass.
                                                                Maybe YOU need to read the whole thread ...

                                                                He's a spammer, then he's not, lies after lies . They just should tell straight up :

                                                                We are not paying 35k $ for 0 $ .
                                                                Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                • SleazyDream
                                                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 41470

                                                                  #232
                                                                  wow - i make more with AFF - and a LOT (and i mean a LOT - many times) more - than iwantu's top affiliate and apparently i don't think i'm even in the top 20 anymore of aff's montly client list.
                                                                  This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                  Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                  • stroker
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                    • 238

                                                                    #233
                                                                    Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                                                    Finally someone making sense.

                                                                    Ofcause they are not going to pay $35K for nothing no program would.
                                                                    No matter if the signup is legit or not the guy found a loophole and tried to cash in on it. What did he think they would pay him $100K at the end of the period for nothing? Sorry to disappoint you the real world don“t work like this NO ONE would pay in a situation like this.
                                                                    If their not going to pay, they shouldn't offer that type of program.

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                                                                    • SleazyDream
                                                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 41470

                                                                      #234
                                                                      maybe one of the reasons affiliates like me and ones that make a LOT more like me USE aff is that AFF won't publish my numbers.

                                                                      think about it
                                                                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                      Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                      • SAM SIYC
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Apr 2005
                                                                        • 999

                                                                        #235
                                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                        maybe one of the reasons affiliates like me and ones that make a LOT more like me USE aff is that AFF won't publish my numbers.

                                                                        think about it

                                                                        I agree with you that some people prefer these numbers to be private.
                                                                        This is why we do not include private accounts in this top100 list.

                                                                        by a simple request, affiliates can set their account to "private"
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                                                                        • RawAlex
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                          • 9465

                                                                          #236
                                                                          AFF is the favorite program of every spammer in the universe. I get more spam daily that goes there than any other program, except for the truly annoying people down the 401 that promote "julie's cam". Stunning levels of spam, most of it filted but some still gets through (stuff like "Meeting tomorrow" and "consider this proposal" type stuff is hard to filter accurately). I don't blame the owners of aff directly, I just report what I see.

                                                                          Alex

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                                                                          • Brujah
                                                                            Beer Money Baron
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 22157

                                                                            #237
                                                                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                            maybe one of the reasons affiliates like me and ones that make a LOT more like me USE aff is that AFF won't publish my numbers.

                                                                            think about it
                                                                            Didn't you see all the "Anonymous" listings ? Idiot.

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