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The Great Chatbot Massacre

04-26-2005, 02:43 PM

There is a great cry of anguish wafting throughout Webmasterland... a cry that hasn't been heard since MSN closed down their chatrooms more than 2 years ago resulting in $30K/month incomes burnt to a crisp....

One of the largest free portals recently changed their chat protocol. Using a sophisticated and, hitherto, uncrackable booting mechanism, it has managed to cleanse most of its rooms of those annoying bots.

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04-26-2005, 02:44 PM

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04-26-2005, 02:46 PM

serves those chatbots right!

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04-26-2005, 02:47 PM

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04-26-2005, 02:48 PM

I'm just a sexy.......oh, nevermind

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04-26-2005, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by DTK

I'm just a sexy.......oh, nevermind

It's more sophisticated than that, bro.

Some use ELiza AI engine.

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04-26-2005, 02:51 PM

Good info.
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04-26-2005, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by $5 submissions

It's more sophisticated than that, bro.

Some use ELiza AI engine.

True dat

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04-26-2005, 03:45 PM

Bump a doodle doo.

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04-26-2005, 03:50 PM

I will use my l33t skills and crack it
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04-26-2005, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by $5 submissions

It's more sophisticated than that, bro.

Some use ELiza AI engine.

delilah is much smarter than eliza

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04-26-2005, 04:01 PM

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delilah is much smarter than eliza

eliza is a fucking noob compared to delilah

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Im sure there's tons of eliza offshoots. No doubt about that.

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04-26-2005, 04:12 PM

The good old days
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04-26-2005, 04:32 PM

yeah....sux

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04-26-2005, 05:02 PM

Ahhhh msn chatrooms...and the fucking sysops!
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04-26-2005, 05:11 PM

God Speed Pornobots!!! God Speed!!!

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04-26-2005, 05:15 PM

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04-26-2005, 05:16 PM

A tear still comes to my eye when I think of MSN

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04-26-2005, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female

A tear still comes to my eye when I think of MSN

The OTHER one may not be too far behind. But given the efficacy of this latest protocol upgrade they may not need to go the MSN route.

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04-26-2005, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by $5 submissions

The OTHER one may not be too far behind. But given the efficacy of this latest protocol upgrade they may not need to go the MSN route.

Read http://justtraffic.blogspot.com for other DIVERSE methods of traffic generation.

Yeah, there have been MAJOR changes lately, on OTHER networks as of recently. It's not looking good at all. It will never be the same or even close to it.

However, we all knew this day would come and we just need to evolve, as nofx said. All of these networks could have ended this years ago... they just chose not to. Lets face it, even the average surfer would know how to prevent/stop the abuse. *SiGH*

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04-27-2005, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by nofx

you must evolve

Got 30 employees doing that for me daily

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04-27-2005, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by the source

serves those chatbots right!

Yeah, chatbots stuck ass.

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04-27-2005, 01:52 AM

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04-27-2005, 01:52 AM

i seriously cannot understand you guys
why do you continuously spread the word on things that you make money on
do you WANT everyone to do what you do? do you want more competition? do you enjoy having your paycheck cut and given to other people you gave your secret to?

I see this happening with spamming, chatbots, yahoo groups, blogs

shut the fuck up already please

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04-27-2005, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by Myst

i seriously cannot understand you guys
why do you continuously spread the word on things that you make money on
do you WANT everyone to do what you do? do you want more competition? do you enjoy having your paycheck cut and given to other people you gave your secret to?

I see this happening with spamming, chatbots, yahoo groups, blogs

shut the fuck up already please

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04-27-2005, 02:53 AM

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04-27-2005, 03:04 AM

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04-27-2005, 04:56 AM

Originally posted by Myst

i seriously cannot understand you guys
why do you continuously spread the word on things that you make money on
do you WANT everyone to do what you do? do you want more competition? do you enjoy having your paycheck cut and given to other people you gave your secret to?

I see this happening with spamming, chatbots, yahoo groups, blogs

shut the fuck up already please

Myst,

There are 2 schools of thought when it comes to ideas. One line of thinking assumes that ideas only have value if it is kept secret. Another line of thinking proceeds on the premise that information and ideas EXPLODE in value when shared. Based on my experiences, the latter is true.

There is no one source of traffic generation that hasn't expanded in value because people learn from the implementations of others. If you know what you are doing--you will learn from and profit from others' attempts at solving the same problem set YOU face. To take your example, blogs... Blog traffic is now in its third or fourth generation. Just look at how people implement it. Do you think it would reach such an advanced (and profitable for some) stage if the IDEA of blogs weren't disseminated? A plants the seed in B's mind, B creates implementation, C is inspired by B's attempt, D perfects C's effort, A applies it to A's problem and makes money... and so do others. This is how I've seen it work.

That's the idea behind http://justtraffic.blogspot.com its a traffic news and idea clearinghouse. If you read it carefully and understand its first principles, you'd know that there are tons of other sources for traffic than the traffic sources discussed on this or other boards. People can only keep implementations secret for so long until people learn and improve on their efforts.

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04-27-2005, 04:58 AM

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04-27-2005, 05:23 AM

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Myst,

There are 2 schools of thought when it comes to ideas. One line of thinking assumes that ideas only have value if it is kept secret. Another line of thinking proceeds on the premise that information and ideas EXPLODE in value when shared. Based on my experiences, the latter is true.

There is no one source of traffic generation that hasn't expanded in value because people learn from the implementations of others. If you know what you are doing--you will learn from and profit from others' attempts at solving the same problem set YOU face. To take your example, blogs... Blog traffic is now in its third or fourth generation. Just look at how people implement it. Do you think it would reach such an advanced (and profitable for some) stage if the IDEA of blogs weren't disseminated? A plants the seed in B's mind, B creates implementation, C is inspired by B's attempt, D perfects C's effort, A applies it to A's problem and makes money... and so do others. This is how I've seen it work.

That's the idea behind http://justtraffic.blogspot.com its a traffic news and idea clearinghouse. If you read it carefully and understand its first principles, you'd know that there are tons of other sources for traffic than the traffic sources discussed on this or other boards. People can only keep implementations secret for so long until people learn and improve on their efforts.

Information... always seeks to be free

it seems this chatbot massacre would not have occured if every tom dick and harry knew about it.. would it have? where potentially thousands a year in earned revenue went poof overnight
or the msn thing? where as you say 30k/month potential revenue disappeared after everyone started spamming it?
or how about mailing where the problem got so bad they had to implement new laws to stop it

soon groups will die due to over exploitation
after that, blogs will become basically tgps

ideas do have value if they are kept constrained. many people doing the same thing means the idea/field has no value
just look at the computer programmer field. they were in such high demand 6-7 years ago and then when every joe blow gets a CS degree, the degree is worthless

loose lips sink ships, thats all there is to it. it certainly would be nice if this was not true, it seems heroic to think the opposite - to be so naive. but thats unfortunately not how things work

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04-27-2005, 05:32 AM

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04-27-2005, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by markyman

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04-27-2005, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by Myst

it certainly would be nice if this was not true, it seems heroic to think the opposite - to be so naive. but thats unfortunately not how things work

It is not naive at all. What is naive is to remain static in one's implementations and not constantly look for 1) better implementations 2) other traffic sources. In fact, I wrote an article on traffic diversification weeks before this current shakeout. See: http://kblogger.com/blog/index.php/w...or_webmasters/

If you're afraid of what newcomers will do instead of learning from them or patiently waiting while they solve YOUR problem set (which is currently happening in one MAJOR MAJOR site--starts with a G), then your own constrained outlook is the source of your lack of growth. I look at competition as ultimately a COOPERATIVE venture--we all face the
same problem set. Almost all of us get stuck at certain points. By having newer sets of eyes and groups of brains picking at the problem, the chances of it being solved exponentially increases than when just ONE guy is trying to figure it out.

Keep an open mind, bro. I'm not saying you're FLAT wrong. Just saying the problem and solution set is bigger than you care to see ;)

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04-27-2005, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by Myst

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04-27-2005, 06:06 AM

Bots are great conversationalists
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