100 russians after Ozman!
I want this guy's traffic levels
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I know, but why not put his shit on hold to see if it pans out?Originally posted by BrujahSperminator, name 1 program who would pay for someone abusing or exploiting their payout system, which results in frauding them to the tune of $35,000+Comment
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Then, his payout will increase for the week after!Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToRwhat if 2 weeks from now 500 of those uniques actually sign up? The the guy got screwed and iwantu gets paid.
total crap. I'll never send traffic to iwantu after this. I mean I understand that the circumstances are fishy but to totally flush him.....why not hold onto the payout for a while and see if any of the people he refered sign up?
We did not block his account. We only reset his payout to the minimum. When his traffic will convert into paid signup, his payout will increase (for next week).
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I can asure you it was not spam. I've always been known to be truthful and honnest.Originally posted by SomeCreep
This is what every single spammer says when they get termed for spamming. "I wasnt spamming, I was sending my traffic from <legit source 1> and <legit source 2>". Usually, the situation is that 90% of their traffic was spam, and 10% was from legit sources. That is still grounds for termination.Comment
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You guys didn't think about that before?Originally posted by iwantuGood point.
We are going to fix that in the future by applying the ratio DAILY. So for the pay per click program only, afiliates will earn a PPC based on the day ratio.
As for other programs, they are all based on the number of signups sent.
Thanks for the comment.
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and then you'll drop them all because they will be fraudulant?Originally posted by iwantuThen, his payout will increase for the week after!
We did not block his account. We only reset his payout to the minimum. When his traffic will convert into paid signup, his payout will increase (for next week).

That's precisely what happend here
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That is correct. 36,000 clicks this week with no signup at all! (not yet anyway)Originally posted by SomeCreepSo last week, the affiliate sent 1 click which got 1 signup, then this week he sent 36,000 clicks which got 0 signups, is that correct? Or did his 36,000 clicks generate sales?Last edited by iwantu; 04-26-2005, 07:53 PM.
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Originally posted by iwantuThen, his payout will increase for the week after!
We did not block his account. We only reset his payout to the minimum. When his traffic will convert into paid signup, his payout will increase (for next week).
You got to be kidding me! It was your payscale and structue that IWANTU put into place. Now because you had a $35k payout the webmaster has to be penalized. I am usally in favor of sponors most of the time but i honestly think you guys put the screws to this webmaster. Because IWANTU did not think ahead and have a full proof game plan this webmaster should be paided.Comment
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It's legit...
I remember watching a Jeffersons episode when I was a child...George's dry cleaning competitor said in a tv commercial that if a customer brought in a certain poundage of clothes, he would clean them for free..So George brought in ALL of the clothes from his dry cleaning store and the owner had to clean every last outfit and it saved George thousands of dollars...I never forgot that episode.
It's the same thing here...He found a flaw in your logic and he should be paid.Comment
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Originally posted by BVFIt's legit...
I remember watching a Jeffersons episode when I was a child...George's dry cleaning competitor said in a tv commercial that if a customer brought in a certain poundage of clothes, he would clean them for free..So George brought in ALL of the clothes from his dry cleaning store and the owner had to clean every last outfit and it saved George thousands of dollars...I never forgot that episode.
It's the same thing here...He found a flaw in your logic and he should be paid.
Haha i remember that epidode. Man i am geting old
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As I mentionned, his only signup last week turned out to be a fraud. Thus, his commission structure for this week is the minimum one. Please read my replies in this thread.Originally posted by Hornydog4cooterYou got to be kidding me! It was your payscale and structue that IWANTU put into place. Now because you had a $35k payout the webmaster has to be penalized. I am usally in favor of sponors most of the time but i honestly think you guys put the screws to this webmaster. Because IWANTU did not think ahead and have a full proof game plan this webmaster should be paided.Last edited by iwantu; 04-26-2005, 08:58 PM.
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I totally understand the program position . But if you make some rules, you gotta stick by it
35k clicks for 35k bucks ? omfg that's some good click / $ ratio there
Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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Ok now that's the reason ... hey ... I'm really not hating on you right now . Because I totally understand you don't wanna pay 35k bucks for 35k clicks and zero sales . But stop bullshitting . Just tell the truth .Originally posted by iwantuAs I mentionned, his only signup last week turned out to be a fraud. Thus, his commission structure for this week is the minimum one. Please read my replies in this thread.
35k for 35 000 clicks make no sence, I agree . But your bullshit don't make any sence either . Stop changing your story back and forth and just tell people that you won't pay him a buck a click and you made a mistake making your own rules . Cauz right now you just look like a guy that is totally lost in his bullshit .
Even if his last week signup wasn't fraud, you wouldn't have paid the guy a buck a click ...Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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Originally posted by iwantuAs I mentionned, his only signup last week turned out to be a fraud. Thus, his commission structure for this week is the minimum one. Please read my replies in this thread.
So if that one signup would of been legit you would of payed him his $35k on 35k of clicks?Comment
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Originally posted by iwantchixxThis is complete bullshit. I knwo the guy who sent all that traffic. Acusing him of spamming is a fucking copout. It's all clicked traffic he purchased.
SO let me get this straight. When an affiliate follows the rules to the "T" but makes too much money you close his fucking account and acuse him of spam?
LOL, see to all of those of you who rip on clickcash for closing accounts for spam, if you read here long enough most sponsors do this and most spammers get pissed and lash out at them here.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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So.. I made 1 Paid Sign Up + 1 Rebill.
And now I ask iwantu for proof of a frauduant signupComment
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they just don't want to pay..Originally posted by HeadlessI smell shit all over this thread...
shit- yes...
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it's already been made clear that this was not spam trafficOriginally posted by will76LOL, see to all of those of you who rip on clickcash for closing accounts for spam, if you read here long enough most sponsors do this and most spammers get pissed and lash out at them here.The Gay Market Is Where The Money's At!
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wow
i can see both sides here
I can see where iwantu's pay scale back fired on them offer 1$ per click lol
I think - honestly pay him the money and take it as a leason learned and pay iwantchixxx the refNeed Gallerys Submitted?
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Originally posted by Lex Bedthey just don't want to pay..
shit- yes...
Just curious what your out of pocket cost was for this traffic?
I hate to say this but even if your signup was legit you will never see the money. They had a flaw in there system and your gonna pay for it. But let this be a lssson to sponsors in the future.
Good luck to you man
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I like to post as i go so sometimes i look like an idiotOriginally posted by Entropyit's already been made clear that this was not spam traffic
finally making it to the last page
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oh I forgot about iwantchixxx so thats waht $38k gone now ?Originally posted by evilklownwow
i can see both sides here
I can see where iwantu's pay scale back fired on them offer 1$ per click lol
I think - honestly pay him the money and take it as a leason learned and pay iwantchixxx the refComment
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it's all good...95 times out of 100 it is a spammer bitching...you just happened to come in on a rare occurrence...lolOriginally posted by will76I like to post as i go so sometimes i look like an idiot
finally making it to the last page
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that's $26 million a year. I doubt if many of the big program turn that over a year.Originally posted by PlatinumpimpHorseshit. There aren't any.
Maybe some big program owners...just maybe.
The guy has gone from the list now so it was not 100% kosher.
Look at the top guy now, at $30 each he's sending 10 sign ups a day and 100 is sending 3/4 a month. Big drop over 100.Comment
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+ ~100 new free sign upsOriginally posted by eddie-executive$35,000 for a $50 signup

not 35k... now it's $0.72Comment
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I wantu told us to mail. They said "keep sending traffic". We checked with them many many times to be sure everything was good. They kept saying all was well and to keep sending to their sites.
Guess what happened on payday?I am a marketing Genius.Comment
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Originally posted by Tony MontanaI wantu told us to mail. They said "keep sending traffic". We checked with them many many times to be sure everything was good. They kept saying all was well and to keep sending to their sites.
Guess what happened on payday?
interesting .. .well after reading this thread i just went back and looked at my stats and they owe me $346 from there mail promo. I guess i should of not flamed them in this thread.
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so maybe he put the link up 10 mins before the end of the week, got a sale.. out of luck... then qualified... i can send 10k hits in less then a week from my site, without doing anything, get maybe 5 sales... and i wouldn't get my money, because the surfers didnt like the product? maybe your program just blows and they would rather go with sexsearch.com or adultfriendfinder.com ? i dont know how many times i sent a few k to sexsearch.com and got 100 accounts, but no signups and over a period of a month, had a few signups from those accounts...
its threads like this that give me reasons not to use ppc because they act all legit, but fuck you over in the end, because they are no better then spammers who exploit them.
/me will never think about using IWantU.com because of this thread...
Russian guy who got screwed, i feel for ya man, and i hope you get your justiceComment
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Lex,Originally posted by Lex Bed
So.. I made 1 Paid Sign Up + 1 Rebill.
And now I ask iwantu for proof of a frauduant signup
My apologies for not clarifying myself properly earlier, your account has not been blocked for spam. However, your payment has been reset to the minimum amount for 'potential fraudulent transaction'.
Last week, you referred one signup from one click, which is very odd, but yet, possible. This exact signup that you referred last week, turned out into a chargeback this week! Thus, this transaction has been flagged as fraudulent.
In consequence, your payout has been lowered this week for the minimum payout, instead of $1 per click, as you would have got. Your account is NOT blocked!
To answer some other concerns, we understand that Pay per Click program may not be the best program out there, however, we clearly specify in our terms:
Affiliates sending several hits from the same IP will immediately be cancelled and their payment blocked. We keep track of all IP addresses and log them for several months to prevent non-qualified repeated visitors.
Payments are issued every thursday of the week
If you have a low ratio, We will never switch you to another program, instead you will receive the minimum payout offered. We reserve ourselves the right to reset your payment to the minimum payout if we beleive you are intentionally frauding the weekly ratio structure.
Other programs we offer such as: Rev Share, Pay Per Signup, Pay per Profile do not have RATIO conditions.
Lex, for any further comments or questions, please do not hesitate to contact me by ICQ!
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Please contact your account manager! Maybe you put the wrong payment information.Originally posted by Hornydog4cooterinteresting .. .well after reading this thread i just went back and looked at my stats and they owe me $346 from there mail promo. I guess i should of not flamed them in this thread.
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Tony,Originally posted by Tony MontanaI wantu told us to mail. They said "keep sending traffic". We checked with them many many times to be sure everything was good. They kept saying all was well and to keep sending to their sites.
Guess what happened on payday?
We notify our affiliates 3 times before blocking them for spamming!
However, i do see your account in the blocked list. Are you sure your account is blocked for spamming? Please hit me by ICQ and I will look it up.
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Originally posted by iwantuPlease contact your account manager! Maybe you put the wrong payment information.
No payment info was correct i all ready recived the check just for the wrong amount. While you are here what days was the no ratios pay per email promo going on?Comment
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Please contact your account manager if you beleive you got the wrong amount, or ICQ me and i will look up your account.Originally posted by Hornydog4cooterNo payment info was correct i all ready recived the check just for the wrong amount. While you are here what days was the no ratios pay per email promo going on?
If you are referring to our $2.50 promo, it went on untill Feb 21st. We are now paying $0.50 per profile.
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He was not spamming. He only sent a transaction that end up being a chargeback (We define chargebacks are fraud transactions and flag them into our negative database).Originally posted by Napoleanwho knows.. at first he was spamming, but now he just sent one sale
maybe next he used a user id that interfered with their payment processor generating false income from chargebacks and refunds?
I personally thought that he was blocked by our affiliate manager for spamming, but in fact, he was not blocked, only minimum amount reset.
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The Pay per click program works on a one week base. You get paid Today based on last's week ratio. We did not totally flush him, we only reset his payout for this week, based on the correct ratio for last week. His ratio was last week end up being wrong, because the only signup he had resulted into a chargeback.Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToRwhat if 2 weeks from now 500 of those uniques actually sign up? The the guy got screwed and iwantu gets paid.
total crap. I'll never send traffic to iwantu after this. I mean I understand that the circumstances are fishy but to totally flush him.....why not hold onto the payout for a while and see if any of the people he refered sign up?
Hit me by ICQ if you have any further comments or questions.
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I'm curious how many of those saying 'pay the man' would do so if they were running the program. Nevermind, I bet I know the answer...
That said the whole idea behind it seems flawed but then just about every PPC sponsor developed a rep for doing the same else they wouldn't have stayed in business. The reason I've never used PPC and have little sympathy for those that do whoever the company is. Nobody will pay you more than your traffic's worth. It's also the reason very few companies will pay on a PPC basis these days.Comment





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