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me too. all the time.Originally posted by Meta RidleyComment
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WOW, that is all I can sayOriginally posted by Isidoro Cañones
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Exactly, plus, what would someone from South America know about the USA's idea of "freedom" and "liberating countries"?Originally posted by directfiestaIt's not fair ... You base your argument on facts, documented on top of it ....
So it doesn't count, it is now considered as lies, propaganda.....
Everyone knows that the USA spreads freedom.... And Saddam was evil: he gassed 10 million people, his own ...
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There is no credible report or survey saying 100,000 Iraqi Civillians have died as a result of the war. You're talking about the Lancet Study.
The Lacet Survey reports with a 95% confidence rating that the death toll from the invasion was only somewhere between 8000 and 194,000. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN. It could be as low as 8000.
How did the Lancet Survey come up with these numbers? Its researchers interviewed 7868 Iraqis in 988 households in 33 neighbourhoods around Iraq, allegedly chosen randomly, and asked who in the house had died in the 14 months before the invasion and who in the 18 months after. They then concluded there had been 100,000 extra Iraqi deaths since the invasion ? by applying the difference in the two rates to all Iraq's 24 million people.
According to the survey, Iraqis before the war were dying at the rate of just five in 1000 people each year. The death rate among infants was around the average for the region ? about 29 in 1000.
But what evidence we have tells us these pre-war death rates were actually much higher. Dated United Nations figures suggest the overall death rate was well over seven in every 1000 ? or close to, if not higher than, the present rate of 7.9 in every 1000 that the Lancet survey suggests.
But even more persuasive are 2002 figures from UNICEF, which in a much bigger survey of 24,000 households found the infant mortality rate in Iraq before the war was actually a tragic 108 deaths per 1000 infants.
This is more than three times higher than the Lancet survey claims was the case ? and double what even the survey claims is the infant mortality rate today.
Anyone running around spouting "100,000 dead Iraqis" is no more informed than people running around shouting "But Saddam had WMD".
Whatever supports your case though, right?Last edited by WarChild; 04-23-2005, 06:26 PM..Comment
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Oh that's right I forgot, South Americans were the victims of Americas last "war on terror".
People inside the US bubble don't realize that elsewhere, people don't have 10 minute attention spans.Comment
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I voted for Bush.
Not to oversimplify things, but - fuck off. :DComment
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I only posted here to give you sissypants tree hugging liberal welfare baby commie fucks a reason to live, I won't be back - my work here is done. :DComment
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Listening to rich give advice about America is the equivalent of a football coach letting the oposing team's fans pick his starting quarterback.Comment
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Don't forget that Bush is going to put is all out of business. The sky is falling, the sky is falling.
Can anybody point to a single person put out of business by the Bush administration for obscenity WITHOUT tax fraud?.Comment
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Originally posted by WarChild
I was to worried about being drafted in the Army the day after he got elected.Comment
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Once again, the world isn't a big game like the make it seem on your TV. Take the advice of everyone here and grow up a little before you continue trying to post in political threads.Originally posted by FunForOneComment
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Originally posted by Rich
I'm guessing your hoping everyone didn't catch your fake article you posted on GFY.
This is an adult webmaster board, quit posting your fake anti-american articles on here.
Go find a political board where people like you and get hard dicks when they can believe your fake shit.
You are insecure about your place in the world. Maybe you failed out of school, I dont care. Just shut up.
Once again, you hate the United States, why should we take you advice from you on how to run our country?Comment
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wtf is a jihadi?i luv mainstreamComment
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does your mommy know you're on her computer again?Originally posted by jonpotz
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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You really are a nutjob. Fake article? LMFAO, go watch a little more TV pal. Then make another fake nick to laugh at your lame jokes.Originally posted by FunForOneComment
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It's all based on the Lacet Survery. You might consider examining the methodology before you tout it as the gospel.Originally posted by VeriSexy.Comment
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Originally posted by Rich
You got busted fuckface. Now your pretending like it didn't happen.
By the way, I do find it funny that you are not even in the industy and you come to gfy to spam and accuse me of having fake nicks?
What would my fake nicks be doing? Spamming? Wouldn't you kind of have to be ok with that.
Now, shut up fuckface before I call your house and tell your mom that you are on porn boards again.Comment
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Iraq or Venezuela Next?
Is Washington planning a bloodbath in Caracas?
Stuart Munckton
The Venezuelan government headed by President Hugo Chavez repeatedly accused the US government of planning a ?new aggression? against Venezuela, including a plot to assassinate Chavez, despite pro-Chavez forces winning nine national elections in six years. Caracas claims to have information of an assassination plot to be carried out ?within 100 days? against Chavez, although the government has refused to reveal its sources.
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Rodriguiz went as far as to set out possible scenarios. He said that an air-strike aiming to kill Chavez was one possibility, pointing to the bombing raid then US President Ronald Reagan ordered in 1986 to kill Libyan President Muammer Qadhafi (Qadhafi survived the raid, but his daughter was killed). The Cuban news agency Prensa Latina reported on March 15 that in the interview Rodriguez had stated that he personally expected to participate in a CIA operation to kill Chavez.
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The United States openly supported a military coup against the Chavez government in April 2002, which was reversed two days later by a popular uprising. Since then, however, the US Congress-funded National Endowment For Democracy has poured millions of dollars into the groups that supported the coup.
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While the US is planning an attack on Venezuela, it is unclear whether it will be able to carry it out, and, if it does, whether it will be successful or not.
From Green Left Weekly, April 6, 2005.
Venezuela Solidarity
Hands Off Venezuela
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/621/621p16.htm
http://www.venezuelasolidarity.org/
http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/
Venezuela terminates military pact with U.S.
http://washingtontimes.com/world/200...4657-5483r.htm
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lol, just because you say something over and over again, doesn't make it true. Nothing about the article you're talking about was fake, and you saying that it was over and over again has fooled exactly zero people. Carry on, if you think anyone on this board takes you seriously you're kidding yourself. If you'd pay attention, you'd notice that everyone laughs at you and no one agrees with you, that's a good indication that you're a moron. Having to use fake nicks to laugh at your own jokes is another one.Originally posted by FunForOne
It's funny how you say I'm not in the industry, when you don't know me and you know absolutely no people in this industry. I push more joins around in a day than you do in a month, so you questioning my credibility doesn't really bother me. I'm not going to get into a big dick competition with some clown on a message board, so when you say shit like that you're basically talking to yourself.
I'm not sure where spamming came into this, I don't spam on this board, and your fake nick wasn't spamming, it was laughing at your own joke. I guess you don't understand what spamming means either, trust me no one is shocked.
The funniest thing about you is not that you're stupid or that you try to talk about things you don't really understand, it's that you honestly believe people take you seriously. Time for a reality check pal.Comment
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Originally posted by VeriSexyIraq or Venezuela Next?
Is Washington planning a bloodbath in Caracas?
Stuart Munckton
The Venezuelan government headed by President Hugo Chavez repeatedly accused the US government of planning a ?new aggression? against Venezuela, including a plot to assassinate Chavez, despite pro-Chavez forces winning nine national elections in six years. Caracas claims to have information of an assassination plot to be carried out ?within 100 days? against Chavez, although the government has refused to reveal its sources.
[...]
Rodriguiz went as far as to set out possible scenarios. He said that an air-strike aiming to kill Chavez was one possibility, pointing to the bombing raid then US President Ronald Reagan ordered in 1986 to kill Libyan President Muammer Qadhafi (Qadhafi survived the raid, but his daughter was killed). The Cuban news agency Prensa Latina reported on March 15 that in the interview Rodriguez had stated that he personally expected to participate in a CIA operation to kill Chavez.
[...]
The United States openly supported a military coup against the Chavez government in April 2002, which was reversed two days later by a popular uprising. Since then, however, the US Congress-funded National Endowment For Democracy has poured millions of dollars into the groups that supported the coup.
[...]
While the US is planning an attack on Venezuela, it is unclear whether it will be able to carry it out, and, if it does, whether it will be successful or not.
From Green Left Weekly, April 6, 2005.
Venezuela Solidarity
Hands Off Venezuela
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/621/621p16.htm
http://www.venezuelasolidarity.org/
http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/
Venezuela terminates military pact with U.S.
http://washingtontimes.com/world/200...4657-5483r.htm
"Democracy" is on the march.Comment
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I hate buch just as much as the next guy...but everyone's right...get over it. Nothing you can do except pray we make it through these 4 years aliveOriginally posted by jonpotzComment
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Close your eyes and hope for the best, thank God everyone's not as complacent as you. When people start ignoring the bad things governments are doing, they get worse.Originally posted by BlueWireComment
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When America's economy fails and our military is unable to meet it's obligations.... Then all you America bashers will be shitting your pants. THere is nothing stopping the Chinese from devouring you!
Especially Canada... A boy scout troop could conquer that countryComment
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You seem to forget, America is the only country that takes other countries by force. China is not going to invade anyone besides Taiwan, especially not Canada. China is not an empire, they've never invaded another country. America on the other hand has launched something like 165 military actions in the past 150 or so years, meanwhile, since the second world war the only wars America hasn't started have occurred between bordering nations. The only country who posses a threat to Canada or anyone else is the USA. You need to stop listening to the nonsense if you think China is going to invade a foreign country.Originally posted by mockingbich
It's times like these when I wish Canada was a part of the EU. Americans just don't seem to get it for some reason. I think the fact that most Americans believe in the devil has a lot to do with it, something like 70% honestly believe that there is true evil in the world, most of these believe that God has blessed America in some way that he hasn't blessed the people of other nations. If you believe in a literal evil, it's not surprising that you'd think the solution to everything is to kill foreigners. In Europe on the other hand, they've been killing each other for a thousand years, and most of the people no longer see violence as the solution to everything. They realize what war really is. Too bad Americans don't get taught real history in school, maybe that would help.Comment
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Who the hell keeps filling your tiny head with China will invade and rule the world propaganda? They only have a brown water navy..........Originally posted by mockingbich
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Nope as I don't think he is the right man for the job at allComment
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Originally posted by smokingdawn
Dennis the Menace would have been better.Comment
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If you take in enough American media, you start to think that everyone and everything is a threat to you. I remember one day in the 80's I was watching CBS, they got me scared shitless of the great empire of Grenada.Originally posted by VeriSexyComment
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He wouldn't have been great, but his administration would have been better, yes. Anything would be better than the group of cold war hawks who run the country now. It's not Bush who's causing the problems, it's the people in his administration who do his thinking for him.Originally posted by smokingdawnComment
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those who believe the "war" in iraq is about anything other than money & power ARE brainwashed. if it was about saving people, they'd do it in the many other countries that suffer from oppression & atrocities.
real journalism IS dead... just look at fox news & CNN is headed in the same direction. corporations dictate your view of the world & often it simply gives you a perspective beneficial to their business. it isn't about how u FEEL or making lives BETTER or spreading democracy (which at this point doesnt truly exist ANYWHERE)... its about who's got the chips, who's got the guns, who runs the show.
its funny when i see cats quoting news reports & shit... "insurgents"... "saving people from saddam"... cats still trying to justify the invasion of iraq when this fact exists: the war was based on the existence of WMDs, there are no WMDs, sooo... the war is actually an illegal invasion. plain & simple. i'm not arguing about any side issues & how this helped people or none of that shit... just facts.
i don't blame bush actually because politicians are all the same... choose one or the other, they still have THE SAME JOB TO DO. that is to protect the sovereignty & financial stability of the US government. nothing more, nothing less.... the governments job is not to make you happy, its job is to keep you under control & keep others out of the way of its goals.
that being said, you can now get back to bickering about things that have absolutely nothing 2 do with the reality of the situation. enjoy.
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So, What are you gonna do to make the situation better? Give me a suggestion or two.Comment
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Originally posted by Redrob
Knocking FOX News off the air would be a good start.
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wow...i started this thread then it got all crazy...
i just got home at 4:30 am after having such a good night
thanks to all who say FUCK OFF BUSH in this thread, you know the deal.
to everyone else, we are in the porn business, if bush had his way, we wouldn't have a job.
AS THE LEADER OF THE THREAD...I DEEM MY POINT OF VIEW THE BEST.
folllow the leader bitches.
and now...as a finale, some videos of americans getting blown up because of bush.
have fun watching what you pro-bush voters did to our boys. yes, thats right, feel directly responsible, because you are. open up your eyes and take off the lbindfold because everything in iraq isn't OKAY like your shitty t.v. says it is. watch our young children die and love it like you do. because after all, you made this happen!
enjoy your work guys. your worked hard for it and voted for it...
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thanks for killing my friends bush voters.
Go fuck yourselves. OH WAIT, YOU DONT GIVE A SHIT BECAUSE AT LEAST IRAQ HAS FREEDOM (YEA RIGHT).
sleep tight and don't let our soldiers being blown up get to you, i know they won't because you believe in the cause. goodnight.
ps. THESE VIDEOS ARE CURRENT. AT LEAST 20 NEW ONES COME OUT EVERY WEEK. WE ARE BEING DESTROYED IN IRAQ AND YOU ALL THINK WE ARE WINNING, THAT IS SOOOO FUNNY. CAN YOU SAY QUAGMIRE?Comment
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If you voted for Bush. You elected this guy:
But it didn't really matter who you voted for anyhow. Karl Rove was behind the entire election process, and coaching Bush the entire way. He is backed by the FBI, CIA and other related Governmental branches.
Once Rove helped Bush gain the Governer's seat in Texas by using back handed whisper tactics and bogus press leaks, to force the Dems out of office in Texas, it was all over from there. He has been by Bush's side ever since, and has also been coaching Jeb into office in Florida.
Wake up America.
"I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."
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people who voted for bush are murderers.
plain and simple.
live with it bush voters. you murder people. tell your kids too.
say, "hey little johnny, i'm your dad and i'm a murderer."Comment
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Hahahaha someone is having a bad night, whats the matter jon didnt get laid?Comment
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Here's a scenerio for you.
From what I recall Bush & Kerry were NECK AND NECK in the poll results almost until the end, when Bush came out of NOWHERE with a HUGE lead.
Try and follow me for just a moment, and keep in mind that this is just a theory, and isn't based on anything other than my own paranoia.
We the People, know about the election process and poll results widely based on the mass media. Let's imagine for a moment that Rove had a group of people glued to their phones with a direct line into the head producer's office at most of the major networks during the election, and kept feeding them incorrect data from Poll results. "No sir, what they have been telling you is incorrect. We have received the OFFICIAL count only moments ago. The REAL numbers are _______. As a representative of the House, you would be in violation of National Security if you were to report anything other than the REAL numbers."
Now, imagine that for a moment. Let's say that a couple networks started reporting bogus info to the public. Other networks would start double checking their own figures, and eventually would check with someone who is connected to Rove's network, who would then feed them the bogus data... perpetuating the scheme.
Eventually, the bogus numbers would, in fact, become "REAL" if everyone believed it.... Bush celebrates his victory. Rove is employed for another 4 years to further along his private agenda.
Now, again, this is all based in my own paranoia, but I can see how something like this could easily happen.
Regards.
"I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."
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So all that disagree with you are either "brainwashed" or "murderers" ...Originally posted by jonpotz
That is even more moronic than your initial post..... a real achievment.Comment
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Originally posted by Voodoo
I'm guessing you didn't remember what actually happened on election day.
The early exit polls had Kerry winning by a landslide. It was found out later that democrat interest groups found out the locations and flooded the polling places where the exit polls were being taken.
So, as it turns out, the democrats were actually guilty of what you were accusing Karl Rove of doing.
Nice job!Comment
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election day
democrats = ownedComment
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With minions like Jon Putz, and candidates like John Kerry, its no wonder they keep losing.....
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Originally posted by ronbotxWith minions like Jon Putz, and candidates like John Kerry, its no wonder they keep losing.....
You cant take anything away from the democratic party. They have done well with what they have.
They managed to make a close election while running a self admitted war criminal and not having one single core value pushed in the agenda.
There are people around the world who hate america. The democrats have managed to gain votes by yelling, "ME TOO"Comment
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when these are the people voting against you, how can you lose.Originally posted by ronbotxWith minions like Jon Putz, and candidates like John Kerry, its no wonder they keep losing.....
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I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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If John Kerry is a bad candidate WTF is your boy Bush jr? He never won anything on his own merits.
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Originally posted by devilspost
John Kerry was possibly the worst candiate for president since Walter Mondale. Even Al Gore had some experience in the White House. Of course he went mentally insane sometime during 2000, but we didn't know that at the time.
John kerry was a democrat who promised tax cuts and more military in the debates. He wrote a book with an upside down american flag on the cover. The Asshole actually saluted during his acceptance speech.
And I shit you not, the motherfucker went to church and put on brand new huting gear and went hunting the week before the election.
Everyone said Karl Rove was a genius, I think he got more credit than he deserved. The democrats have no more core values, they mistakingly assumed that the wide range of special interest groups making so much noise made up a larger percentage of the population.Comment
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Nope......Originally posted by jonpotzComment
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wow, talk about sig spot...
Jon Putz...lol, fucking great.
Just admit the fact that your president started a war with a country who had nothing to do with 911. Now you are all legitimizing the war by saying saddam was a bad man and had to go. YOU can even use the WMD excuse anymore to backup your claims.
TERROR ALERT RAISED TO STFU. Scared?Comment
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btw, 100 stupid bush vote child murderers.Comment
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