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Originally Posted by dig420
no it's not. The fact that we eat animals doesn't mean we can torture them all we like, and that's basically what he's saying here.
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Originally Posted by dig420
listen dumbshit: your point, if you have one, seems to be that since we eat animals and have factory farms we should throw up our hands and allow foie gras, clubbing baby seals, bull baiting and baby eating. In other words, either everyone treats animals well and humanely and stops eating them or it's anything goes, any depravity must be acceptable.
You're not really as smart as you think you are, ummkay?
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I find it amusing how you accuse me of being dumb, yet fail to understand a very, very simple argument yourself.
My point is that we need to get our priorities in order. We fight numerous huge battles against something that is quite uncommon, and thereby prevent a few animals from suffering, yet at the same time, we not only ignore but actively contribute to an industry which causes billions upon billions of animals to suffer.
Imagine a plantation owner with a thousand slaves who goes through tremendous efforts to ban his neighbour from keeping a single slave, then goes on to pat himself on the back for being such a friend to the freedom of mankind. That plantation owner is our society.
What I oppose is not the banning of foie gras, it is the hypocrisy that has become a structural part of western society. Rather than taking responsibility for their own actions, exercising self-control and changing the world through making the right choices, people seek to restrict and control the actions of others to create a facade of morality, while at the same time their own actions undermine any possible true morality.
Law after law is drafted to take away freedoms, but all these laws are only gestures with no real content. Foie gras is banned, so the next time John X goes to a restaurant, he will order chicken instead. The same amount of animal suffering is caused, but suddenly it's socially acceptable.
If you want to support something, support something that makes a difference. It probably won't sound quite as glorious (after all, a law that requires pigs to have an extra square foot of space is not the stuff headlines are made of), but it will have a much larger impact (on animal suffering, that is, not on headlines).
In other words: stop being a sheep, and focus on the things that actually matter, rather than the ones that manage to get the most press coverage.
And if my point still eludes you, please go and shoot yourself. The gene pool does not need you.