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Where was the guy dragging the body to at the end of the clip?
Where was the guy dragging the body to at the end of the clip?
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one bullet was justified. two bullets later is homicide.★★★
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He shot me down, bang bang.Comment
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could be fake....but i don't know if a timeline is deserved on something that is only a week old.Originally posted by Meta Ridley
you are super l33t though so excuse me for not spending 24hours on the web.★★★
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fake as hell
no blood,
the fire of the shots look fakedLast edited by gangbangjoe; 04-19-2005, 11:20 AM.
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Originally posted by Young
It's much more thana week old and has been posted here numorous times already.
Ph33r my 1337n355Comment
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ok...sorry. I guess someone went through the effort of superimposing a date of 4/08/05 over the video. Hey look...they even inserted a 24hour timer that is exactly like the ones found on security cameras.Originally posted by Meta Ridley
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Yeah that's fakeComment
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Originally posted by Meta Ridley
Date shows 04-08-05 ... wouldn't go as far as saying is MUCH MORE than a week
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Originally posted by VerbalDate shows 04-08-05 ... wouldn't go as far as saying is MUCH MORE than a week
Were talking internet time here
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Holy shit, thats a true gangsta!
Btw, fake!
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internet l33ts get videos b4 they even happen.Originally posted by VerbalDate shows 04-08-05 ... wouldn't go as far as saying is MUCH MORE than a week★★★
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Seems pretty fake to me . The exagerated body movement. Strange glowing shotshatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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damn sure looks like he got hit
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not sure if its real or not, but if it is real that would be dam funny that the crackhead got capped.
buddy guy was probly high as hell walking in like superman, capped!
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Originally posted by Young
Wrong: that dude still had a gun. You shoot at me, I kill you. Simple, really.
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Wrong: the guy was already down from the first shot, 2 more shots while the guy was down? now you go to jail , pretty stupid statement!Originally posted by SpaceAce
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watch it againOriginally posted by AdultXWrong: the guy was already down from the first shot, 2 more shots while the guy was down? now you go to jail , pretty stupid statement!
he goes down and is still moving
then he raises the gun trying to find the clerk
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Have to agree..for the sake of argument if it wasn't a fake...the guy was still moving somewhat and holding onto the gun...you're going down if you come into my place of business or home with the intention of harming me and I get the drop on you...I'm making sure you're dead before I call the cops.Originally posted by SpaceAceFor rent - ICQ 127-027-910
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I'm willing to risk it...and would push my lawyer to go for jury nullification...a lot of jurors wouldn't want to convict you for defending yourself...so chances are there'd be a hung jury and the state wouldn't want to spend the money to try and convict again.Originally posted by AdultXWrong: the guy was already down from the first shot, 2 more shots while the guy was down? now you go to jail , pretty stupid statement!
Hell there's that man down in Louisiana that planned an attack on a boy scout troop leader who molested his son and was being brought back to the state.
It's old video from the 80's where he's sitting on this phone in the airport and they are walking the guy by and he turns and pops him like right in the head...jury found him not guilty.For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
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the problem is people didnt actually watch the entire video or were distracted by something while watching. he CLEARLY raised the weapon and it then goes out of view in the direction of the clerk when he goes behind the clothes rack. clearly self defence. someone being down on the ground point a gun at you is the same as them holding it in your face.Originally posted by eroswebmaster333-765-551Comment
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Doesn't matter, if that is real he would be going to jail, all he had to do it walk away and call the cops after the first shot, he went over and shot him 2 more times while he was down, even if he still was holding the gun, they would say you were not in fear of your life anymore, shouldn't of walked over to him.Originally posted by bringer
I am just speaking of the law, not of what most people would want to do, the cops would look at that video and arrest him for manslaughter, simplay as that.
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dragging the body away really made it look fake,
but if it was real, you can't really see the guy after he was down and what he was doing with his hands/gun, so you can't really make a Homicide call on thatComment
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from that video, which is the only perspective i get to see, it appears the guy raises the gun and then turns over where the gun goes out of sight towards the clerk. unless theres other camera views we dont see, that's how it'll be argued. him dragging the guy away is something id question though.Originally posted by AdultXDoesn't matter, if that is real he would be going to jail, all he had to do it walk away and call the cops after the first shot, he went over and shot him 2 more times while he was down, even if he still was holding the gun, they would say you were not in fear of your life anymore, shouldn't of walked over to him.
I am just speaking of the law, not of what most people would want to do, the cops would look at that video and arrest him for manslaughter, simplay as that.
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Again the main problem is the cops would say you should not have walked over there, then you would not be in that situation. If you have a way out, you are not in fear of your life. A way out means - do not walk over to the person on th ground, run away and call the cops.Originally posted by bringer
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and if he bleeds to death and they can prove you could of done something you'd be fucked aswell. just calling 911 doesnt get you out of it.Originally posted by AdultX333-765-551Comment
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You should all kill each other. And hurry up about it.Comment
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I'm not going to argue with a statement as stupid as that. The guy went down but he still had a loaded weapon, period. I'd have shot the motherfucker until I was out of bullets. I'd rather take my chances in court than with an armed man who might still try and kill me.Originally posted by AdultXWrong: the guy was already down from the first shot, 2 more shots while the guy was down? now you go to jail , pretty stupid statement!
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if i was in that position id atleast make sure he was incopasitated before calling someone. that might of been what he was doing. id rather check and take the gun away then run and call the cops and get shot in the back when he gets up.Originally posted by SpaceAce333-765-551Comment
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LOL you are a funny guy.Originally posted by bringerFor rent - ICQ 127-027-910
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shh, he's buying itOriginally posted by eroswebmaster333-765-551Comment
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WHat??? if you shoot someone who is trying to harm you, you do not go over and she if he needs help!! you call the police. what are you going to do give CPR to someone who just tried to kill you??Originally posted by bringer
Anyway i am going by what i know, when i got my carring permit here in FL, we had a class taught by a cop who explains the laws about this, plus i have a lot of cops in my family, and unless you are backed into a corner and cannot get away from the person, you cannot go to the guy and shoot him again. Maybe laws are different where you live.
I am not agreeing with it, just saying this is what the cpos will say. once he is down you are concidered out of daner of death unless you are backed into a corner and cannot get away.
And i agree it is stupid
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lol i am not buying itOriginally posted by bringer
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Originally posted by .?.
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i think if you're in his line of site and he's able to raise and possibley fire the weapon you're still in danger.Originally posted by AdultXWHat??? if you shoot someone who is trying to harm you, you do not go over and she if he needs help!! you call the police. what are you going to do give CPR to someone who just tried to kill you??
Anyway i am going by what i know, when i got my carring permit here in FL, we had a class taught by a cop who explains the laws about this, plus i have a lot of cops in my family, and unless you are backed into a corner and cannot get away from the person, you cannot go to the guy and shoot him again. Maybe laws are different where you live.
I am not agreeing with it, just saying this is what the cpos will say. once he is down you are concidered out of daner of death unless you are backed into a corner and cannot get away.
And i agree it is stupid
damn, i tried. arguing on the internet is fun aint it?Originally posted by AdultXlol i am not buying it
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Everyone is missing the point, i agree with you, but you would be charged if they had that on film, simply as that, there was no need to go up to him after the first shot. that is what they would say, i do not agree with it.Originally posted by SpaceAce
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Originally posted by bringeri think if you're in his line of site and he's able to raise and possibley fire the weapon you're still in danger.
damn, i tried. arguing on the internet is fun aint it?
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look at it this wayOriginally posted by AdultX
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the first two shots had a flash on the screen the one that apparently hit him did not.
Looks fake to me.Comment
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No way, he was still moving and had a loaded weapon. Sure A poor guy with a public defender would probably do time for this if it happened in the projects. In a nicer neighborhood, a white guy with any half decent lawyer wouldn't even be taken to trial, he'd get a pat on the back from the cops.Originally posted by YoungComment
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I've seen better actors. To those who made the video: Don't quit your day-job.Comment
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I hate to start throwing out credentials (because I truly lack them) but I have a BA and was Pre-Law, accepted into Law School. Was a intern at a DA's office for 3 years undergrad. I know murder like the back of my hand.....
If that video was real that guy would be going to jail. One Shot...One Kill....justifiable homicide (self defense). One shot and the guy is still standing with the gun aimed at you... justifiable homicide.
One shot and the guy goes down....you get the fuck out of there and call the cops. The second shot would have been arguable in court by a good defense attorney. The third one gets you a sentence and a jailhouse nickname.★★★
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ah if only you could get away with that in REAL lifeFighting the hypertrophy of social cognition.
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Originally posted by bringer
Ok let's not get carried away
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Thank you, that was all i was trying to sayOriginally posted by Young
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I still say it depends..and it's something I would be willing to risk.Originally posted by Young
I'm not saying that the by the letter of the law you would not be charged....what I am saying is I don't think you'd get convicted by a jury.
You could argue a variety of issues here and anyone of them I think would cause a jury to consider whether they want to send a man who was in complete fear of his life 1 second before to jail because he continued to shoot after the guy was down when the law feels as though he should be rational and consider his options and get out.For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
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True, just a big risk, you know how the court system works sometimes, maybe if you have money like OJ for some big time lawyers, you would be fineOriginally posted by eroswebmaster
I personally would have found that security cam and removed that tape or something.
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