nope. don't need flash at all ;)
First I hit google, to see what was there for swf - avi converters, but I found over 3 million responces
so I was hoping someone here used a similar program thay could recomend to me, after hunting through a bunch of flash type message fourms i found one program that kept popping up in posts like mine....
Amor SWF to Video Converter
http://www.zealot-soft.com/swf_video_converter.htm
I checked out the free demo and it wors perfectly for what I need to do, so i'll buy it in the morning whne I wake up and finish these mini projects.
-Loki-