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Can the police do this?

08-02-2006, 05:29 PM

I have a friend who lives in a small town and has a pretty flashy fast car. He was at a restaurant near his house one night and when he left he drove by a cop on a dark road and the cop slowed down but didn't put his lights on. When he saw the cop hit his brakes he just floored it and took off. He pulled his car into the garage and about 10 mins later the cops were pounding on his door but he didn't answer.

3-4 days later he got a ticket in the mail for 100+ in a 30 mph zone, driving to endanger, and failure to stop for the police. Now, my question is can the police do that? I know they didn't see his plate, they never pulled behind him but they know he was at the restaurant because they went into the restaurant and got the receipt that had his name on it.

anyone have this happen to them and successfully defended it?
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08-02-2006, 05:30 PM

they did it and thus they can

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08-02-2006, 05:31 PM

I think they can do it..we have something somewhat similar.called photo radar.you run a red or a speed trap and you get a ticket in the mail.They have cameras every where

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08-02-2006, 05:32 PM

How do you know he didn't see the plates?
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08-02-2006, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command

they did it and thus they can

stop whining bitch

yeah i know but it's kinda bullshit dont ya think?
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08-02-2006, 05:33 PM

take it to court. He has a chance but....

hows he going to prove the cop didnt put his lights on? Its his word against the police. And you know the police.... they lie! and touch you in weird places.

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08-02-2006, 05:33 PM

Of course they can, just because they didn't see the plates doesn't mean they can't identify him. He's an idiot for taking off then going home.

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08-02-2006, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by wargamer6

How do you know he didn't see the plates?

he never got behind him and no plates on the front of the vehicle.
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08-02-2006, 05:34 PM

Why wouldn't they? Your buddy sped off, I'll assume he was speeding. How do you know they didn't see his plate? Even if they didn't, they knew where he lived and the make of his car.

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08-02-2006, 05:35 PM

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Of course they can, just because they didn't see the plates doesn't mean they can't identify him. He's an idiot for taking off then going home.

how can you identify someone thats driving by you at 40-50 mph on a dark road at 1 am?
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08-02-2006, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by BigDeanEvans

how can you identify someone thats driving by you at 40-50 mph on a dark road at 1 am?

I have a friend who lives in a small town and has a pretty flashy fast car.

Cops are trained to notice things, especially who they are going after. I had a cop run my plates a month ago just driving past me, in the dark.

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08-02-2006, 05:44 PM

You always have a 50/50 cahnce when you go to court. But be smart Listen to the way that the cops testify, and make your similar.

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08-02-2006, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command

they did it and thus they can

stop whining bitch

yea, no kidding, you did something stupid and got busted, shit happens man... now get a good lawyer and pray he can take care of it, having "fleeing from the police" charge on your record is probably not a good thing...

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08-02-2006, 05:51 PM

I don't see how he has a chance of winning this in court.

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08-02-2006, 05:51 PM

hes lucky they didnt kick down his door for felony eluding. they had probable cause the moment he gassed it.

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08-02-2006, 05:57 PM

I dont see the failure to stop for police charge standing. The motorist has to know that he is being signaled to pull over, which hitting brakes does not accomplish. The speeding ticket will stand, prolly.

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08-02-2006, 06:18 PM

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08-02-2006, 06:25 PM

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08-02-2006, 06:26 PM

My understanding used to be they had 15 minutes from the time the incident occurred, but not sure how factual that was.
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08-02-2006, 06:29 PM

cops can do and will do anything they want... no matter if its right or not.

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08-02-2006, 06:31 PM

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08-02-2006, 06:32 PM

Getting a lawyer is his only chance
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08-02-2006, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

My understanding used to be they had 15 minutes from the time the incident occurred, but not sure how factual that was.

That doesn't seem right Sticky. But if it is, that would be cool to know.

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08-02-2006, 06:40 PM

First of all they cannot prove that your friend has been at the wheel while the violation took place, thus he can claim that his friend from Cuba/ Iran etc. lent his carhahaha8230;
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08-02-2006, 06:41 PM

he could be a passanger
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08-02-2006, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by Big_Red

That doesn't seem right Sticky. But if it is, that would be cool to know.

It may have been a local or state ordinance, and it may have only been for minor violations.
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08-02-2006, 06:45 PM

go to the court tell them that you have nothing to do with and don't know what is it for. as far as i know "presumption of innocence" still exists, let them try to prove that you were a driver.
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08-02-2006, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by baddog

Getting a lawyer is his only chance

Not necessarily...
Let it go to court and show up..
Many times the cops don't show up and it gets thrown out..

If he shows up, dispute the failure to stop for police and pay the speeding part..
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08-02-2006, 06:56 PM

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08-02-2006, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Scootermuze

Not necessarily...
Let it go to court and show up..
Many times the cops don't show up and it gets thrown out..

If he shows up, dispute the failure to stop for police and pay the speeding part..

Thats happened to me two times on tickets. Just went and they cop didnt show up.

another ticket i got i was sitting at the railroad tracks and had turned my headlights off because i was having alternator problems. well low and behold I forgot to turn them back on. long story short, i went to the cop at the court and nicely reminded him what happened, (btw he treated me like a total punk kid when giving me the ticket), well he proceeds to say, "I dont remember what happened, so I guess there is no way I can testify against you." Judge threw it out. heh

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08-02-2006, 07:19 PM

yes they can, can running away from the cops can triple your fine/
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08-02-2006, 07:47 PM

police can, and will, do whatever the fuck they want... laws mean nothing to police.. unless YOUR breaking them...

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08-02-2006, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by BigDeanEvans

I have a friend who lives in a small town and has a pretty flashy fast car. He was at a restaurant near his house one night and when he left he drove by a cop on a dark road and the cop slowed down but didn't put his lights on. When he saw the cop hit his brakes he just floored it and took off. He pulled his car into the garage and about 10 mins later the cops were pounding on his door but he didn't answer.

3-4 days later he got a ticket in the mail for 100+ in a 30 mph zone, driving to endanger, and failure to stop for the police. Now, my question is can the police do that? I know they didn't see his plate, they never pulled behind him but they know he was at the restaurant because they went into the restaurant and got the receipt that had his name on it.

anyone have this happen to them and successfully defended it?

He's lucky they didn't arrest him and charge him with resisting arrest. Welcome to America!
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08-02-2006, 08:06 PM

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08-02-2006, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

My understanding used to be they had 15 minutes from the time the incident occurred, but not sure how factual that was.

Yeah, just a rumor. If it does exist anywhere, it would be a city ordinance, or possibly a state law/statute (very unlikely). I think its more like the rumor they had at my college where if the professor was gone more than 15 minutes you are automatically dismissed. Basically the kid in all of us wanting freedom. Again, welcome to America, land of the free-to-be-slaves.
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08-02-2006, 08:09 PM

they have X amount of time after they see the infraction to issue a ticket for the incident.

i'm sure it's different for every state i believe it's 3 weeks here in new jersey

they can pull you over for an infraction let you go and if they want to be pricks issue a summons after the fact. it's happend to a few friends of mine with moving violations.

at this point we live in a police state they can do what they want whenever they want...

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08-02-2006, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command

they did it and thus they can

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08-02-2006, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by BigDeanEvans

I have a friend who lives in a small town and has a pretty flashy fast car. He was at a restaurant near his house one night and when he left he drove by a cop on a dark road and the cop slowed down but didn't put his lights on. When he saw the cop hit his brakes he just floored it and took off. He pulled his car into the garage and about 10 mins later the cops were pounding on his door but he didn't answer.

3-4 days later he got a ticket in the mail for 100+ in a 30 mph zone, driving to endanger, and failure to stop for the police. Now, my question is can the police do that? I know they didn't see his plate, they never pulled behind him but they know he was at the restaurant because they went into the restaurant and got the receipt that had his name on it.

anyone have this happen to them and successfully defended it?

your friend is an asshole and a danger to society.
and don't you mean he pulled into his mom's garage?
generally only teenagers do that kinda bullshit.

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08-02-2006, 08:34 PM

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take it to court. He has a chance but....

hows he going to prove the cop didnt put his lights on? Its his word against the police. And you know the police.... they lie! and touch you in weird places.

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08-02-2006, 08:39 PM

no offense, he's a dumb fuck. he wanted to have fun, he gots busted now he has to pay the price. what was his "flashy fast" car anyways? A camaro?

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08-02-2006, 08:39 PM

Does anyone else notice that a third of the replies are from people in Jersey? What does that say about everyone in Jersey knowing the law a bit too well?

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08-02-2006, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by DatingGold

no offense, he's a dumb fuck. he wanted to have fun, he gots busted now he has to pay the price. what was his "flashy fast" car anyways? A camaro?

My guess is a Civic or Neon.

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08-02-2006, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by modF

Of course they can, just because they didn't see the plates doesn't mean they can't identify him. He's an idiot for taking off then going home.

Exactly what was he thinking

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08-02-2006, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by BigDeanEvans

When he saw the cop hit his brakes he just floored it and took off.

Nope. Nothing bad can come of that. Those pigs were in the wrong!
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08-02-2006, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Big_Red

The "Man" can do whatever the hell he wants. Now just get a good attorney and tell the "man" ...........

You got that right! Cops can do basically anything they want. I had a cop stalk me for about 3 months it was sooo horrible, I can't even begin to tell ya.
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08-02-2006, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

It may have been a local or state ordinance, and it may have only been for minor violations.

in WA they have to flip on the lights/sirens within 1 mile of the "incident"
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08-03-2006, 12:45 AM

The Pigs can do anything they want pretty much until they get caught.

He has to prove you were doing 100+ No Radar No Ticket. Each time the radar is used it has a serial number for that use.

Was it Dark?

Why didnt he put the ticket on your windshield if it was you?

How do they know they have the right guy?

They have to prove beyond any doubt that it was you or your buddy.

Make sure you show up.... More than likely the officer will not appear there fore you win...

If you have a attorney. Send him into court for you and plead NOT GUILTY.

Have your attorney ask the citing officer to give him details of your description.

He can't.

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08-03-2006, 12:48 AM

he should be happy with that ticket
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08-03-2006, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by modF

My guess is a Civic or Neon.

or even a Civic *with* neon

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