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  • CheeseFrog
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    • Dec 2003
    • 1724
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    So I replaced my $6k camera setup with a $300 digital

    Ok I didn't totally replace it. My Canon EOS-1DMkII (24-70mm 2.8L glass, 550EX flash, about a TB worth of memory cards) is off being repaired, so I picked up one of those Canon Digital Elph SD30's at Fry's. Below are some sample shots taken with the 1DMkII and some sample shots taken with the Digital Elph. Do you guys think it's worth the $5k+ difference?

    EOS-1DMkII







    Digital Elph SD30




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    • tony299
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      • Aug 2002
      • 57021
      #2
      besides the colors are more vivid not much different lol

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        • notabook
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          • Apr 2006
          • 9748
          #3
          Just more proof that it's not the camera that really matters but the hands that it's in.

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            • sweetcuties
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              • Feb 2002
              • 5859
              #4
              Prefer the Digital Elph SD30

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                • xclusive
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                  • Apr 2004
                  • 35218
                  #5
                  Not worth the 5k+ upgrade as far as I can see

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                    • Ray@TastyDollars
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                      • May 2002
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                      #6
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                      Both sets look great

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                        • Dynamix
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                          • Jan 2004
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                          #7
                          If you add a $20 filter attachment to the digi I'd say they're equal ;)

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                            • Basic_man
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                              • Oct 2003
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                              #8
                              I like the result with the 300$ cam, but there's one big difference
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                                • Libertine
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                                  • May 2002
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                                  #9
                                  How can we tell if you don't use the same amount of compression on each set?

                                  Show some high quality, large pictures of each set, and maybe we'll be able to say something useful
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                                    • Dagwolf
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                                      • Sep 2003
                                      • 23141
                                      #10
                                      Different lighting, different background.. it's not a fair comparison.
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                                        • MikeVega
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                                          • Jul 2004
                                          • 12788
                                          #11
                                          I think it helps that you know about lighting and angles to shoot .. the first set does have better color ..


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                                            • Grapesoda
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                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 46234
                                              #12
                                              I shoot with a 4 mg camera myself

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                                                • Doctor Dre
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                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 51692
                                                  #13
                                                  It was 2 different days ugh ? The lightning is so different ... the first = warm lithing

                                                  the 2nd = cold light
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                                                    • CheeseFrog
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                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                      • 1724
                                                      #14
                                                      Yeah, shot different days, similar conditions. The SD30 was set on "Auto White Balance" and unfortunately the pics came out on the cool side. Almost looks Nikon'ish. I couldn't get the nice warm tones like I could with the 1-series. One thing the pics don't show is the speed of the camera. With the 1-series I can just crank out as many pics as I care to take. Press the button and the thing fires. With the Digital Elph, usually when I press the button it takes a good 3-4 seconds for the thing to actually fire. This is in itself is so frustrating it makes the price difference almost worth it for that feature alone.
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                                                        • cj_purve
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                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 1065
                                                          #15
                                                          I don't think the difference is anything that matters for web, but the elph ones are a little flat in color, not as much contrast.

                                                          But isn't it amazing the pics some of the cheaper cameras can take these days?! If your lighting is right, there's very little difference noticable on a computer. I always have my old coolpix with me when I shoot because there's some types of lighting it just handles easier.

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                                                            • E$_manager
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                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                              • 13557
                                                              #16
                                                              all pics are perfect.
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                                                                • Matt 26z
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                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                  • 18481
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Look at the URL watermark on each set. The first has been compressed so much that the photos look like shit.

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                                                                    • BSleazy
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                                                                      • Aug 2002
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      The last pics are way better.
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                                                                        • latinasojourn
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                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                          • 3191
                                                                          #19
                                                                          web jpg compression rates downgrade image quality of high rez camera sensors and lenses.

                                                                          so you really can't tell too much with small web samples.

                                                                          now if you were looking at full-size raw images you would see huge difference.

                                                                          also, the closer you are to the subject matter will be a factor and how the image is cropped.

                                                                          shooting a landscape and then enlarging it to full size you will see a big difference.

                                                                          true, a digital rebel is probably good enough for web work, but for pro photography requiring cropping, or large display prints you need good equip.

                                                                          truth is, "consumer" grade cameras will usually look better for web work because they are setup with default sharpening and color saturation, with pro cameras you are usually doing more post processing work to get the look you want.

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                                                                            • 2HousePlague
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                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                              • 14572
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Sweet fucking ass -- -- whatever equipment ya use --





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                                                                                • Digipimp
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                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 13481
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  ummm would surfers really notice the difference? probably not so why waste more money.

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                                                                                    • John69
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                                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                                      • 942
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Digipimp
                                                                                      ummm would surfers really notice the difference? probably not so why waste more money.
                                                                                      there ya go
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                                                                                        • Matt 26z
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                                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                                          • 18481
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by cj_purve
                                                                                          I don't think the difference is anything that matters for web, but the elph ones are a little flat in color, not as much contrast.
                                                                                          This isn't 1997. Monitors are big and beautiful now. Images online can now be better than that of magazines and rival photographs. So I don't agree with the old "it's just for the web" stuff anymore.

                                                                                          The Elph images can be improved by adding saturation in an image editor. I just tried bumping the first one up +20 and there is a clear improvement in the color.

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                                                                                            • Sosa
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                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 40149
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              they are all nice pics

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                                                                                                • Gerco
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                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I like the first pic the best, nice focal lenth. You can do that with the cheap cameras.
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                                                                                                    • CheeseFrog
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                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                                                      The Elph images can be improved by adding saturation in an image editor. I just tried bumping the first one up +20 and there is a clear improvement in the color.
                                                                                                      Hmm interesting. I'm going to try that right now
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                                                                                                        • Juilan
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                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                                          • 15141
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I like the DOF and color rendition on the EOS-1DMkII better, the Elph reminds me of the cheaper sony ccd's like the early cybershots. With the Elph you could maybe get by with smaller 800x600 sized web photos but try making a calendar of prints of your exclusive girls for members and it just ain't gonna compare.
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                                                                                                            • Kimo
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                                                                                                              • Jan 2006
                                                                                                              • 11542
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              i think im going to go pick one of those up soon!
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                                                                                                                • Vitasoy
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                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                  • 58202
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Can't really tell so go with the 300 cam


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                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                          • 30307
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Great subject

                                                                                                                          A picture is a picture, even ones taken with a cheap cell phone.

                                                                                                                          For example.


                                                                                                                          Anyone can produce content these days. I started out with a Cybershot 3.2 Megapixel. The technology makes it easy, it's point and shoot.

                                                                                                                          Havign an eye for whats good is a whole different matter but then again "Whats Good" is perceptual. What you think is good might not be,what you think is bad I might like.

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                                                                                                                            • LiveDose
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                                                                                                                              #32
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                                                                                                                                • nico-t
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                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 29901
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  i prefer the sharpness of the digital pics

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                                                                                                                                    • rowan
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                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2002
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      The 1DII shots look heavily filtered. Can you post sample shots straight out of each cam, resized & watermarked only?

                                                                                                                                      I don't think I'll ever give up my brick - no compact goes down to 12mm rectilinear!

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                                                                                                                                        • CheeseFrog
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                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2003
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by rowan
                                                                                                                                          The 1DII shots look heavily filtered. Can you post sample shots straight out of each cam, resized & watermarked only?

                                                                                                                                          I don't think I'll ever give up my brick - no compact goes down to 12mm rectilinear!
                                                                                                                                          Those are pretty much straight out of the cam. Except for some Gaussian Blur brush to hide some of her acne and a couple mosquito bites that she got (we forgot to bring bug spray. Color, contrast, DOF, etc are all straight out of the camera.
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                                                                                                                                            • flashfreak
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              nice pics...
                                                                                                                                              I'd say it's not worth the extra $.
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                                                                                                                                                • pornguy
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                                                                                                                                                  For some reason, the first set just looks like they have been shopped already. I like the colors in the second set. Now I know exactly what you mean about the speed of the photos. I have a 20d, and an older SonyFD95. the 95 shoots 2.1mega, and the photos are nice, but it takes about 18 seconds between photos.
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                                                                                                                                                    • CamsLord
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                                                                                                                                                      based on those sample pics, it's not much of a difference
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                                                                                                                                                        • OMG Jim
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                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2005
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          I've been using the Canon Elph at the last three shows and I think that they are best for the closer shots. The lighting can be tricky especially when you are not using the flash. It is frustrating having to hold the button and wait for the click. The camera's size is also what makes it such a great little camera.

                                                                                                                                                          If I were going to sell the photos then I would definitely go for a more sophisticated set up.

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                                                                                                                                                            • divinity
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                                                                                                                                                              personally I prefer the second set with the cheap camera! maybe because it's more real looking...
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                                                                                                                                                                • vidvicious
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                  actually you lose the depth of field with the 300$ jobber
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                                                                                                                                                                    • anne
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                      Yea i love my elph
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                                                                                                                                                                        • KRL
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                                                                                                                                                                          The 2nd set from the less expensive camera looks much better.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • johnnyhey
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                                                                                                                                                                              depth of field is much better on a real camera, if you're shooting pro, there's NO way to get DOF with the elf.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  Take 5,000 photos and see which shutter still works.

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