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  • bryc
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2001
    • 102

    #1

    Nonnude=2257 safe

    Discuss....
  • Kimo
    ...
    • Jan 2006
    • 11542

    #2
    i sure hope so
    ...

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    • CaptainHowdy
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2004
      • 94011

      #3
      If not it's the end of it all, man...

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      • Webby
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Oct 2002
        • 14956

        #4
        Sure would be madness if legislation did include non-nude.

        Just trying to find some references - saw "something" somewhere to the effect that is it far safer to cover ass all round and collect data for *all* website content.
        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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        • TheJimmy
          ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
          • Jan 2001
          • 10747

          #5
          Not entirely...I'm sure if someone were rubbing their genitalia and/or breasts, even with clothes on, it could be interpreted as 'sexually explicit'...think it through people, then ask a lawyer or two...
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          • Scott McD
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Nov 2002
            • 67792

            #6
            The worlds gone mad...


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            • Webby
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Oct 2002
              • 14956

              #7
              Originally posted by TheJimmy
              Not entirely...I'm sure if someone were rubbing their genitalia and/or breasts, even with clothes on, it could be interpreted as 'sexually explicit'...think it through people, then ask a lawyer or two...
              Suppose there could be an arguement depending on the nature of the website - ie.. if it is mean't to appeal to an X audience and is of an adult nature, then - hell, better to cover ass all round.

              This is all kinda crappy, pathetic stuff..
              XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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              • gooddomains
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2003
                • 10127

                #8
                nonnude adult targeted = sexually explicit

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                • F U S I O N
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 1898

                  #9
                  Most of my sites have just a few cropped thumbs of a models face or something like a butt in a thong. The rest are all text. I dont host anything that could even be considered as "simulated". I link to the hosted galleries, potds, etc for that.

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                  • TheJimmy
                    ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 10747

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Webby
                    Suppose there could be an arguement depending on the nature of the website - ie.. if it is mean't to appeal to an X audience and is of an adult nature, then - hell, better to cover ass all round.

                    This is all kinda crappy, pathetic stuff..
                    Overall context of the site is for sure an issue...
                    Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

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                    • bryc
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 102

                      #11
                      Bump for more opinions/discussions

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                      • bryc
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 102

                        #12
                        Originally posted by gooddomains
                        nonnude adult targeted = sexually explicit
                        Could you please explain your thoughts. Obviously it is intended for adults but if I do what Fusion does it wouldnt be considered "sexual content" or "simulated". I do pretty much the same. A few face thumbs and mostly hosted galleries. No nudity at all.

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                        • L-Pink
                          working on my tan
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 39151

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bryc
                          Could you please explain your thoughts. Obviously it is intended for adults but if I do what Fusion does it wouldnt be considered "sexual content" or "simulated". I do pretty much the same. A few face thumbs and mostly hosted galleries. No nudity at all.

                          The definitions of those terms are left up to the prosecuting attorney. By then you are already fucked.

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                          • Lycanthrope
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 4517

                            #14
                            My thoughts, non-nude, even tits only is safe. Tits are not genitalia. But take non-nude and zoom in on see through panties so you can see the pink and such, well, then I think you have "crossed the line" into non-exempt ville.

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                            • scardog
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 886

                              #15
                              got this from FSC page

                              "Clause (v) of section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United States Code" is part of the definition of "sexually explicit conduct," and reads, "lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person." Lascivious exhibition had previously been entirely excluded from the requirements of hahaha167;2257, but with H.R. 4472's changes to the law, lascivious exhibition will apparently now be included if the material also depicts sexual intercourse, bestiality, masturbation or sadistic or masochistic abuse, all referenced in clauses (i) through (iv) of hahaha167;2256(2)(A).

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                              • BabyDaryl
                                Registered User
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 31

                                #16
                                The new Adam Walsh law yesterday takes it a few steps further..

                                Simulated sex and artistic nudity...

                                So masturbating through clothes, I'm guessing.. it simulated sex...

                                There's also the new misleading hyperlink law... did anyone read that yesterday?

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                                • ContentSHOOTER
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2005
                                  • 3770

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Scott McD
                                  The worlds gone mad...


                                  Please note that this is not a world wide issue, it seem sto be of major concern to the US
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                                  • Yngwie
                                    I am an Alien from space
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 11118

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                    If not it's the end of it all, man...

                                    at this rate, non nude will not be safe eventually.
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                                    • bryc
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 102

                                      #19
                                      I guess I will go completely text. No banners, no thumbs. My sites may look like shit but fuckin' a, they are NOT driving me out of this business.

                                      There's ways around not using pictures if need be. Just gotta be creative!

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                                      • gooddomains
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 10127

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by bryc
                                        Could you please explain your thoughts. Obviously it is intended for adults but if I do what Fusion does it wouldnt be considered "sexual content" or "simulated". I do pretty much the same. A few face thumbs and mostly hosted galleries. No nudity at all.
                                        If you look very closely at how things work then you will see that nudity is not really required for being sexually explicit, but then I am only working in the adult arena for the last 12 years.....

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                                        • media
                                          Confirmed Moneymaker
                                          • Apr 2002
                                          • 9853

                                          #21
                                          If you had a girl who was in braw and panties and you were sticking a finger into her pussy to make a camel toe and took a picture of it that would be lewd and lacivious focus on the genitals I'd think, even if the pussy was never ever shown... because there is sexual context to it.. So I would still think 2257 would apply here... lol.. sorta makes you sctratch your head to think about all the fucked up shit they could get you for...

                                          Lets all start filming dry humping now...
                                          I'm here for the violence!

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                                          • bryc
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 102

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by gooddomains
                                            If you look very closely at how things work then you will see that nudity is not really required for being sexually explicit, but then I am only working in the adult arena for the last 12 years.....
                                            I meant no disrespect. I just didnt understand what you were saying exactly.

                                            I'm trying to read up on everything I can.

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