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NATS - Disallow join option for old members? Any program owners using this option?

07-27-2006, 10:04 PM

Anyone using NATS using this option?

"Disallow for Old Members" on the pricing options for a site?

I'm thinking I might turn this on, we get some members joining a site 2-4 times on the one day trials and the 5 day trials to soak up memberships at their convenience... I think this would cut down on the slackasses that keep joining our sites...

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07-27-2006, 10:08 PM

Just be smart and give them a very high daily pricing option.

It's quite common that people use the dialy trials a couple times, cause the can jump from site to site like this.

With the right pricing you can make it an advantage for you though

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07-27-2006, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by JOKER | JOKEREMPIRE Inc.

Just be smart and give them a very high daily pricing option.

It's quite common that people use the dialy trials a couple times, cause the can jump from site to site like this.

With the right pricing you can make it an advantage for you though

Yes, but with our cookies lasting so long we have some members getting $75 for one member within a month period on multiple occasions, I know it's great for a webmaster and all if this happens but we do not see this as good for business in the long run for anyone...

I have one person who's joined the site 4 times, I finally just blocked their IP address for now and put up a message for them saying you have been blocked due to excessive trial signups, please email us to obtain a full membership...

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07-27-2006, 10:18 PM

Why not just limit access on trials?
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07-27-2006, 10:25 PM

because this would be a lot easier

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07-27-2006, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by media

Yes, but with our cookies lasting so long we have some members getting $75 for one member within a month period on multiple occasions, I know it's great for a webmaster and all if this happens but we do not see this as good for business in the long run for anyone...

I have one person who's joined the site 4 times, I finally just blocked their IP address for now and put up a message for them saying you have been blocked due to excessive trial signups, please email us to obtain a full membership...

Ok, I see where you're coming from...

I guess it would be only fair to not pay a PPS for re-joins but a revshare after the initial join. Funny to see a flaw like this in NATS, I've guessed somebody would have thought about this already.

Guess it will be taken care of now.

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07-27-2006, 10:29 PM

The best thing to do would be that on the 2nd join they are taken to a member aera where only the first video of each set works... the others lead to a one click upgrade membership (paycom).

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07-27-2006, 10:29 PM

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Yes, but with our cookies lasting so long we have some members getting $75 for one member within a month period on multiple occasions, I know it's great for a webmaster and all if this happens but we do not see this as good for business in the long run for anyone...

I have one person who's joined the site 4 times, I finally just blocked their IP address for now and put up a message for them saying you have been blocked due to excessive trial signups, please email us to obtain a full membership...

I see this as a great idea, and I would offer them a discounted rate if they do join, and then let it rebill at the normal rate.

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07-27-2006, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by media

Anyone using NATS using this option?

"Disallow for Old Members" on the pricing options for a site?

I'm thinking I might turn this on, we get some members joining a site 2-4 times on the one day trials and the 5 day trials to soak up memberships at their convenience... I think this would cut down on the slackasses that keep joining our sites...

another reason to not have a cheap trial
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07-27-2006, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by pornguy

I see this as a great idea, and I would offer them a discounted rate if they do join, and then let it rebill at the normal rate.

You have to understand the mentality behind it. They only want to pay for the day when they're horny and actually use the site. They join many sites on a daily basis to keep the variety - why would they want to end up paying a rebilling schedule for them all when they only use them every other day.

A Coin-system works great for users like this.

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07-27-2006, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by pornguy

I see this as a great idea, and I would offer them a discounted rate if they do join, and then let it rebill at the normal rate.

I'm going to ask them about this, see if they can put "alternative pricing" into a feature for an update very soon, that would be a great way to get around someone just getting a message saying they are not allowed to join with this option, but rather something like "Our records show you have been a member before, how would you like to join today for one month for THIS PRICE!"

something like that would be more constructive I think aside from just turning on the dissalow option... which I will most likely be doing on all sites since I just now noticed this option...

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07-27-2006, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by media

I'm going to ask them about this, see if they can put "alternative pricing" into a feature for an update very soon, that would be a great way to get around someone just getting a message saying they are not allowed to join with this option, but rather something like "Our records show you have been a member before, how would you like to join today for one month for THIS PRICE!"

something like that would be more constructive I think aside from just turning on the dissalow option... which I will most likely be doing on all sites since I just now noticed this option...

Why bother / force them with a monthly price when they really want to pay per day for the actual day that they use it?

Most don't even mind to pay $9.95 for that day, as long as they get what they want.

Now compare and do the math: 29.95 per month flat vs. 9.95 per day when the user uses the site lets say 4 times/days a month... with less bandwith used and less actual online-time

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07-27-2006, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by JOKER | JOKEREMPIRE Inc.

Why bother / force them with a monthly price when they really want to pay per day for the actual day that they use it?

Most don't even mind to pay $9.95 for that day, as long as they get what they want.

Now compare and do the math: 29.95 per month flat vs. 9.95 per day when the user uses the site lets say 4 times/days a month... with less bandwith used and less actual online-time

Because it's a PPS program. The referring webmaster gets $35 per sale (or whatever PK pays). If the surfer is only paying $9.95, PK is losing $25 per sale.
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07-27-2006, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by KrisKross

Because it's a PPS program. The referring webmaster gets $35 per sale (or whatever PK pays). If the surfer is only paying $9.95, PK is losing $25 per sale.

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!!!!

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07-27-2006, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by JOKER | JOKEREMPIRE Inc.

Ok, I see where you're coming from...

I guess it would be only fair to not pay a PPS for re-joins but a revshare after the initial join. Funny to see a flaw like this in NATS, I've guessed somebody would have thought about this already.

Guess it will be taken care of now.

This actually has nothing to do with a flaw, if a member joins and was referrered, the referrer gets credited, period. Wouldn't call this a flaw.

We have added the "disallow join option for old members" feature in v3 of NATS.

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