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wow, very interesting
does anyone think it was possible, that f-16's were scrambled and that Flight 11 was actually shot down ?
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That was interesting.ICQ: 91139591Comment
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that one FAA guy was a prick. "Uhh.....Hmmmm.....Uhh.... I don't know, everyone just left the building" acting like it was no biggieComment
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Seems as though they mayhave been scrambled. Not conclusive though.
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your sig rocks.Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
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thanks!
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Wow, thats eerie.
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damn, my folks live close to that area and have alot of relative in Johnstown, I am going to visit the site in June when I go back up to Pittsburgh for a visitComment
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is that guy reading the 9-11 commission report? sounds like itComment
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I was just about to say that myself.Originally posted by Shoehorn
The eerie part is knowing that the people aboard the plane that the highjacker was talking from on the radio are all dead minutes later and hearing the FAA guy acknowledge that it's down.
So many lives wasted. Terrible terrible tradgedy. I don't care how badly the USA has pissed people off, nobody deserves to die over anything.
What makes me wonder though, was the highjacker chickening out and going to land the plane safely and the military scrambled and shot the plane down in fear of it hitting another target? Gives me chills. But really, did they have any choice otherwise? I mean, a few hundred people die as a precaution or possibly 1000's if the hijacker was just bullshitting.... not something you can chance.Comment
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jesus christ theres some incompetant people running things..
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The first reports of it I remember hearing that day about flight 11 was that it was shot down.Originally posted by FelixFlow-uno
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Originally posted by iwantchixx
No i think they changed their objective , then people tried to ambush the cockpit s they downed it on purpose.
Nobody now would have blamed them for shooting that one down.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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meh... it needed to be shot down, even if there was an 80% chance that the hijackers were chickening out, or even if the passengers got the plane under control...
just like there's no negotiating with terrorists...
who knows what the target could have been.. or what the intentions may have been... (eg: dumping of biological weapons over cities/in cities)Comment
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Interesting stuff.ICQ 212-115-582
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thats interestingComment
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The whole 9/11 thing is just another event you won't find out about; until the freedom of information act expires on the case. This president and people who were responsible for it will be dead by then.
The truth always comes out, just that it's so far in the future that the events of the day will only be remembered by the people directly affected by it.Comment
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Originally posted by iwantchixx
pls explain this to the Iraqi's dying every dayComment
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I fail to believe the passengers had anything to do with downing it.
What is better for the media - "Heroic passengers die crashing plane that terrorists were going to use to kill" or "government forced to shoot down hijacked plane"
Call me a pessimist but I guess that's immediately what I thought. "They downed it".
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what codex in does that need? I can't get any sound from that clip.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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thats fucked up shit, I always had a feeling that the plane in pitsburg was shot or taken down by the militaryComment
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i would have hated to receive that call. hell i would have hated to be at work that day.ICQ: 309756847
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I didn't swalllow, your mother did!Originally posted by DusenComment
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It just happened too fast. These were just ATC doing the best they could, you can't blame them.That audio made me relive that sad day.
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easy to say that when you know the final outcome now, but do you think that's a good strategy? The majority of hijacked planes land normally after negotiations.Originally posted by tedwintersComment
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Nothing new here! However, I do believe that the plane was shot down. I remember vividly that morning. I was listening to Howard Stern, and he actually had a caller on, who said he was from that part of PA, and that he saw the plane go down, & that he saw F16s in the air right after.
Our govt. thought that that plane was heading to DC, and my guess is that Dick Cheney probably gave the orders to shoot it down in a field in PA, rather than let the plane get close to another metropolitian area. God rest the souls of all the innocents who died that day because they went to work. Fuck Jihadism!!Go Fuck Yourselves!Comment
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Thats crazy. Shit I don't know how I would of taken that.Comment
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Is that Mohammad Atta talking on #11 or another terrorist?
The audio clips are somewhat confusing, since it jumps from 8:34 to 9:03 (second plane hits WTC), and then back to 8:37 when Boston contacts NEADS saying the first one is a hijacking. It kind of gives the impression that the military didn't know about the hijacking until after the second plane at 9:03.
It's interesting that many people initially thought it was one of the war games that day. Though the military claims the war game excercises aided in our rapid response. Imagine what would happen if we hadn't been practicing nuclear war with Russia in Alaska and if the CIA/NRO hadn't been doing drills "flying airplanes into buildings". I love how they lie to us and say 9/11 was a failure of imagination. Especially since there had been war games involving the exact scenarios and that the war games that day may have impeded our ability to respond (hence imagination was our failure).
You can watch Rumsfeld and Myers recently talk about the 9/11 war games here, after being repeatedly asked several harsh questions - http://www.spiegltech.com/media/McKinney2.rmComment
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Unfortuanely there was just to much time on between the first plane, and flight 11 being shot down. By the time elasped I think they had a good judgement that the plane was heading for another target. Sad to say, and I would hate to live with myself after being one of those pilots. But they had a job to do.......Originally posted by FelixFlow
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By your comments, I see the majority of you haven't read the full 9/11 report.
Three planes had already struck the Towers and the Pentagon, minutes prior. And, today, YOU'd have time to think about what to do? Where were all you armchair strategists when the country needed you????? Oh, waiting for more time to think about it. I see.
You don't think the passengers could overpower "boxcutters" and STOP that flight, knowing what the other 3 planes had done? I know you'd be sitting there, pissin' in your seats. My wife knows that, in cases similar to this, she's not to get in my way!
You see, some of us KNOW what needs to be done, at the moment. And we don't need any F-16 to do it for us! I'm a subscriber to "Let's Roll!" Fucking towelheads!Comment
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Glad to have seen this, this kinda stuff isnt broadcasted here in EU, dunno if anyone heard but we had a really tacky situation last weekend where a KLM flight got rejected due to 2 ppl on the plane that werent on the EU blacklist. The plane returned to Amsterdam Airport and noone was arrested (unfortunately imho). Its time to get specs synchronised, I bet its a matter of time when some ahole will be able to enter US airspace again this way...
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Originally posted by Juggernaut
Look the govenment is still denying FDR knew about Pearl Harbor. That was over 63 years ago.Comment
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Damn, it remind us so much ..
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so who killed kennedy then?Originally posted by JuggernautDon't let greediness blur your vision | You gotta let some shit slide
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Originally posted by grumpy
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Oswald, but the government still tried to cover shit up for no reason. Kinf of like oj. He did it but they still tried to frame him. Stupid stupid stupid.Originally posted by grumpyComment
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there's is so much to learn from that attackComment
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Originally posted by ezrydn
The passengers did take over the plane ( or tried to )hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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I'm confused. I've watched that video tape, I've read the 9/11 Commision report; I've read and watched everything on the subject. After watching that video, what makes anyone think that the last plane was shot down? All I got from that video is that someone told the military that they "needed to get involved" and "needed to get some planes in the air".
If I recall correctly, we had fighters in the air, but they were over Washington DC at the time of the final crash.
The final plane went down either becase the terrorists couldn't control it or because the passengers rushed the cockpit.Herschel Savage
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Originally posted by 12clicks
Good post!
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I'm glad you have, because then you would know that the first WTC attack in 1993 was started by an FBI informant who built the bomb. Here's a book endorsed by Paul Wolfowitz (and partially created by him and his wife), Richard Perle, James Woolsely, and published by the AEI (neo-cons) :Originally posted by ezrydn
"In fact, the 1993 Trade Center bombing had its origins in an FBI undercover operation initiated by an informant whom the FBI dropped as the plot got underway. Others stepped in and transformed and continued the conspiracy that culminated in that attack."
http://www.aei.org/books/bookID.242,...ok_detail2.asp
Besides the FBI losing track of the conspiracy after starting it, they also failed to arrest two Iraqis involved who had an unlisted phone number in the name of a female Israeli lady who supposedly hired the driver of the van (the clueless driver who went back twice to Ryder to get his deposit back).
After the bombing, the FBI joined back up with their informant, who repeated the set up, caught more conspirators with no terrorist attack, and was paid $1 million. He also secretly taped the FBI, which implicated them in the bombing and was played on WBAI in NYC -
http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/SalemWBAI.mp3
It's somewhat hard to fathom that 2 years later, another terrorist attack would involved a government informant who had prior-knowledge, mysterious Iraqis who weren't caught (yet videotaped and suppressed), and a Ryder truck used to carry a bomb which in both cases the serial number on the axel of the truck led to the conspirators (what are the odds of that?)
Please realize these are not conspiracy theories. These are facts. James Woolsey, the CIA Director from 1993-1995 explicitly said there was a government coverup in both attacks. Which are both related to 9/11 because of Ramzi Yousef and his uncle, KSM, the 9/11 mastermind.
So if the 1993 attack was a failed sting operation, couldn't 9/11 be the same? There was an FBI informant living with at least 2 of the hijackers. Besides the fact that some trained on U.S. military bases and they just happened to pick a day where we were running similiar wargame scenarios.Comment
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