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  • will76
    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
    • May 2003
    • 18037
    #151
    Originally posted by $5 submissions
    Good advice, Colin. Diversification is key. Try to have both Adult and Non-Adult businesses. Online and Offline.
    Colin knows his shit obviously, and is giving good advice to those of you who are making good money. If you don't listen to him then the next thread you will start would be " Why aint I making 20K a month anymore " .

    I hear that shit all the time, people who make it then lose it blame it on the industry and not themselves. It's not that terribly hard to make it, it's a whole lot hard to keep it and keep making it. Sure you can hit a home run on an idea or technique to advertising, but people will copy you and do something better then you in no time at all, and if you don't keep reinventing your ideas every couple months you will lose income and like most people blame it on poor not being as porfitable any more lol.
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      • will76
        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
        • May 2003
        • 18037
        #152
        blame it on **porn industry** not being as porfitable any more lol.
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          • Rui
            web
            • Dec 2001
            • 9533
            #153
            Almighty Colin - funny (not really but you get the point), but I relate with alot of what you said, who would it guess we had similar experiences in the past eh ;)

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              • $5 submissions
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                • Nov 2003
                • 32189
                #154
                How did everyone do on the 18th? Good looking out, guys!

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                  • MrJackMeHoff
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 4569
                    #155
                    If everyone else made $20K per month what would I make? If I only made $20k a month I'd die

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                      • $5 submissions
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                        • Nov 2003
                        • 32189
                        #156
                        Originally posted by will76
                        Sure you can hit a home run on an idea or technique to advertising, but people will copy you and do something better then you in no time at all, and if you don't keep reinventing your ideas every couple months you will lose income and like most people blame it on poor not being as porfitable any more lol.
                        You nailed it on the head. Traffic information can't remain secret forever, the key is to selectively share and profit from the resulting innovations/fixes. Information is one of a number of things whose value EXPONENTIALLY EXPLODES if it is SHARED. That's our philsophy behind http://justtraffic.blogspot.com

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                          • Spudstr
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2321
                            #157
                            Originally posted by Phoenix
                            with all the 420 posts around here you are suprised most people get stuck at the entrance level?
                            there are alot of people with low post counts who make good money and are intelligent at what we do. others just mouth off.
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                              • Der Schleicher
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 1189
                                #158
                                Originally posted by Almighty Colin
                                Competition, variation in goals, skills and ability.

                                Whatever your income, someone out there is probably working even harder to take it from you. There are more and more increasingly sophisticated companies with marketing reps, sales people, on-staff graphic artists, teams of programmers and customer service reps. In addition there is an endless flow of wild west free site owners adding to the competition at the affiliate level.


                                As a guy who has been up, down and then up again in this business the advice I would give to anyone is to not expect that your current income is going to last forever. Don't blow it all on women and toys. Build a good cash reserve for your business and yourself. Make it a goal to accumulate two years living expenses in the event you should need it. Make some investments if you can. Make a personal income spreadsheet that goes forward a few years showing income, savings and itemized expenses (auto, rent or mortgage, school loans, entertainment, groceries, TAXES!, etc). Assume your income will stay the same even if if you think it will grow. Stick to the budget. Make sure you are accumulating enough cash and assets to meet your goals in a timely manner. Underestimate income, overestimate expenses.
                                great advice on savvy financial planning. thanks
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                                  • will76
                                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 18037
                                    #159
                                    Originally posted by Spudstr
                                    there are alot of people with low post counts who make good money and are intelligent at what we do. others just mouth off.

                                    Proof of that right here.

                                    the ONLY thing post count means is how much time you spend on here posting. period. And if you have a large post count and 95% of you post are about your dinner last night or someone's car, etc... then you have way too much time on your hands and doubt you are making much money since you waste so much time with bullshit.
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                                      • Rui
                                        web
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 9533
                                        #160
                                        postcount doesn't mean nothing almost all the time (and when it does it isn't something good...)

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                                          • rollinOn20s
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2004
                                            • 2006
                                            #161
                                            Cause we aren't all selling crack!
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                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 32189
                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by rollinOn20s
                                                Cause we aren't all selling crack!
                                                No crack needed.

                                                Anyway, since we discussed traffic diversification earlier, post your thoughts here on that issue.

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                                                  • $5 submissions
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                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 32189
                                                    #163
                                                    Here's an article on diversification (TRAFFIC) http://kblogger.com/blog/index.php/w...or_webmasters/

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                                                      • Kard63
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 8944
                                                        #164
                                                        Originally posted by bdjuf
                                                        20k a month would kickass for me, half way there though ;)

                                                        All clean mailing?

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                                                          • adonthenet
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                            • 16753
                                                            #165
                                                            very good thread. , enjoy reading
                                                            and ill read that just traffic on blogs
                                                            thanks.

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                                                              • slackologist
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                • 2379
                                                                #166
                                                                IS the 20k profit after tax and expenses? Just about anyone can turn over 20k/month and be left with not much.

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                                                                  • wimpy
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                    • 607
                                                                    #167
                                                                    Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                    Everyone doesnt have basic internet skills that we on GFY do. Everyone doesnt spend 16 hours a day online trying to make money.
                                                                    There are some people who can do it in a few hours, but damn few people.

                                                                    Myself, when I work 16 hr days I make tons of money. When I work an hour a day it slowly peters away to a small fraction. I wish I could just sit back and still earn.

                                                                    I just can't think of anythng that doesn't take tons of time. You gotta police the cheaters or defeat the cheat police, and that technology is always changing. You gotta keep up with changes to the way search engines rank sites. Etc, etc. It all takes time.

                                                                    People think it's damn easy to make money on the internet, that's why every joe blow is trying to do it. Few make it, but those that do have a talent and they're always nipping at your heels.
                                                                    Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind."

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                                                                      • fris
                                                                        I have to go potty
                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                        • 55789
                                                                        #168
                                                                        i would like to make more on my blog. rene, hit me up how i can work with your company to improve some things. 345801040.
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                                                                          • Mango
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                            • 474
                                                                            #169
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                                                                              • Rinaldo
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                                • 5086
                                                                                #170
                                                                                Let's talk

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                                                                                  • $5 submissions
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                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                    • 32189
                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    Originally posted by wimpy
                                                                                    There are some people who can do it in a few hours, but damn few people.

                                                                                    Myself, when I work 16 hr days I make tons of money. When I work an hour a day it slowly peters away to a small fraction. I wish I could just sit back and still earn.

                                                                                    I just can't think of anythng that doesn't take tons of time. You gotta police the cheaters or defeat the cheat police, and that technology is always changing. You gotta keep up with changes to the way search engines rank sites. Etc, etc. It all takes time.

                                                                                    People think it's damn easy to make money on the internet, that's why every joe blow is trying to do it. Few make it, but those that do have a talent and they're always nipping at your heels.
                                                                                    No need to work hard... just follow the Don Lapre method... Take out small ads in small newspapers all over town

                                                                                    Seriously, good post, man!

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                                                                                      • tranza
                                                                                        ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                        • 57559
                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        Originally posted by FreeFastHost
                                                                                        I make well over $20k/month with 0 employees.
                                                                                        Woohoo big playa!
                                                                                        I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                          • goldman
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                                                            • 212
                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            i am great at coming up with ideas shit at executing them...
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                                                                                              • $5 submissions
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                                                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                                                • 32189
                                                                                                #174
                                                                                                Originally posted by goldman
                                                                                                i am great at coming up with ideas shit at executing them...
                                                                                                That's where capital comes in. Let your money do the execution for you by hiring people to execute.

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                                                                                                  • clickhappy
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                    • 4027
                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    I dont know. I have been busting my ass. I havent left my house in a long time, except for groceries. Ive been blowing off friends so I can concentrate on working, and this is all I've made this year

                                                                                                    http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=232987

                                                                                                    I'm really getting depressed about it.

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                                                                                                      • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                                                        • 40377
                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        Originally posted by clickhappy
                                                                                                        I dont know. I have been busting my ass. I havent left my house in a long time, except for groceries. Ive been blowing off friends so I can concentrate on working, and this is all I've made this year

                                                                                                        http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=232987

                                                                                                        I'm really getting depressed about it.
                                                                                                        you made $10k this year so far?

                                                                                                        if most of it is profit, then you earned over $3k per month on average

                                                                                                        if you are new, thats not bad. Remember, it's 2005, not 2001 or 1998.
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                                                                                                          • INever
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                                                                            • 4028
                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            hey clickhappy

                                                                                                            Those are pretty good stats. Can you double your traffic or have you maxed it out? Are conversions from your core sponsors stable, hot or cold?
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                                                                                                              • clickhappy
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                • 4027
                                                                                                                #178
                                                                                                                Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                you made $10k this year so far?

                                                                                                                if most of it is profit, then you earned over $3k per month on average

                                                                                                                if you are new, thats not bad. Remember, it's 2005, not 2001 or 1998.
                                                                                                                im semi-new, i have those rebills from the past. But im really busting my ass and all I hit are dead ends.
                                                                                                                My eyes are killing me right now from looking at the screen so long, im burned out. making sites, submitting, making sites, submitting.

                                                                                                                I dont espect to wave a magic wand around and poof the checks come rolling in, but I thought id be doing better than I am right now.

                                                                                                                I dont know, i need new sponsors or something, cuz I really am working and im getting nowhere.

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                                                                                                                  • clickhappy
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                    • 4027
                                                                                                                    #179
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by INever
                                                                                                                    Those are pretty good stats. Can you double your traffic or have you maxed it out? Are conversions from your core sponsors stable, hot or cold?
                                                                                                                    no my traffic source dried up.
                                                                                                                    it was an incredible source too, i hit just the right traffic with just the right ad and was doing 1:50 ratios and it was rebilling nicely and building up.
                                                                                                                    Then the traffic left.
                                                                                                                    I was very proactive and tried every traffic broker I could think of and none of them brought good results.

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                                                                                                                      • $5 submissions
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                                                                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                        • 32189
                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by clickhappy
                                                                                                                        im semi-new, i have those rebills from the past. But im really busting my ass and all I hit are dead ends.
                                                                                                                        My eyes are killing me right now from looking at the screen so long, im burned out. making sites, submitting, making sites, submitting.

                                                                                                                        I dont espect to wave a magic wand around and poof the checks come rolling in, but I thought id be doing better than I am right now.

                                                                                                                        I dont know, i need new sponsors or something, cuz I really am working and im getting nowhere.
                                                                                                                        Dude, hit me up. Or at least read my traffic blog http://justtraffic.blogspot.com

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                                                                                                                          • Kirsten
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                            • 342
                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            open a good paysite!

                                                                                                                            It's not that hard, we make well over that a month!
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                                                                                                                              • clickhappy
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                • 4027
                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                                                                Dude, hit me up. Or at least read my traffic blog http://justtraffic.blogspot.com
                                                                                                                                im actually a brand new new client of yours
                                                                                                                                we'll see how it works out. So far youre great.

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                                                                                                                                  • V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 32451
                                                                                                                                    #183
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                                                                    Actually, this is very common. Many webmasters make most of their money on 1 or 2 methods. When those methods die due to technical, regulatory, or other issues, then the bonanza ends. This has little to do with sponsors. There are many sponsors but only a few proven traffic methods that generate gold on a daily basis. That's why it is EXTREMELY important to diversify your traffic source.
                                                                                                                                    Well said... I started with TGP's... Starting making $2000 a month, it was extra. I didn't need the money to live. So I built more. Then I realized I don't have that kinda time and merged their databases and then went looking for other things to do. PPC, both buying and selling. I sell on my TGP's and buy for my own galleries. Posting, I post only once in a while and only certain proven money making programs. SEO... I taught myself SEO and created free sites. Now I am at about 9K a month and based on my growth from only 5 months ago to now, I am certain I will be a 20K'er by years end...

                                                                                                                                    Wierd, shit just all of a sudden clicked... Before November I was strugging... Do over a grand in a month and then well under the next month... But eventually I figured out about 20% of what Detoxed is talking about and the money started rolling in.

                                                                                                                                    I remember when I'd be so fucking happy with a $35 sale a day.... Then when I regularly surpassed $100 a day I'd get so happy I'd take the family on REAL vacations... Then $200 wasn't shit and it is getting so that $300 isn't either...

                                                                                                                                    I was told by someone... don't look to make 20K a month tomorrow. Look to make it in 2 years. How? Make 1 thing a day that generates 1 sale a week and will continue to do so for a few weeks to a lifetime.

                                                                                                                                    Mathmatically it works out like this,

                                                                                                                                    $sale = 20 (this is actually small)

                                                                                                                                    for $x = 0 ; $x < 52 ; $x++ (Count the weeks in a year basically)

                                                                                                                                    if $x / 12 then remove 20% revenue do to loss

                                                                                                                                    Your next year:

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                                                                                                                                    The ending month you should have $4330 a month minimum. I have noticed that my begining cost per sale was about $19 and it is now $27. I am learning how to make more money per sale. So the numbers I computer here for you are a bit lower than what you can expect.

                                                                                                                                    Google for all things Perl, PHP and Mysql. Learn how to make a networked 400 page website out of 2 pages and some ingenuity.

                                                                                                                                    Stop asking people blanket questions.. "How do I make $20K a month?"

                                                                                                                                    Start asking yourself how you can generate 1 sale for the week, today.

                                                                                                                                    If you start getting behind.. Work smarter annnnnd a little bit harder, but mostly smarter.

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                                                                                                                                      • V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 32451
                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Forgot to preview it.... that is looking to do it over 1 year period.

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                                                                                                                                          • Nylz
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                            • 8285
                                                                                                                                            #185
                                                                                                                                            Almost there
                                                                                                                                            No sig.

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                                                                                                                                              • Rui
                                                                                                                                                web
                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                • 9533
                                                                                                                                                #186
                                                                                                                                                V_RocKs - nice post m8 ;)

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                                                                                                                                                  • squizzel
                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                    • 900
                                                                                                                                                    #187
                                                                                                                                                    sitting nice on 2k a month... Gaining every day !

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                                                                                                                                                      • squizzel
                                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                        • 900
                                                                                                                                                        #188
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                                        Well said... I started with TGP's... Starting making $2000 a month, it was extra. I didn't need the money to live. So I built more. Then I realized I don't have that kinda time and merged their databases and then went looking for other things to do. PPC, both buying and selling. I sell on my TGP's and buy for my own galleries. Posting, I post only once in a while and only certain proven money making programs. SEO... I taught myself SEO and created free sites. Now I am at about 9K a month and based on my growth from only 5 months ago to now, I am certain I will be a 20K'er by years end...

                                                                                                                                                        Wierd, shit just all of a sudden clicked... Before November I was strugging... Do over a grand in a month and then well under the next month... But eventually I figured out about 20% of what Detoxed is talking about and the money started rolling in.

                                                                                                                                                        I remember when I'd be so fucking happy with a $35 sale a day.... Then when I regularly surpassed $100 a day I'd get so happy I'd take the family on REAL vacations... Then $200 wasn't shit and it is getting so that $300 isn't either...

                                                                                                                                                        I was told by someone... don't look to make 20K a month tomorrow. Look to make it in 2 years. How? Make 1 thing a day that generates 1 sale a week and will continue to do so for a few weeks to a lifetime.

                                                                                                                                                        Mathmatically it works out like this,

                                                                                                                                                        $sale = 20 (this is actually small)

                                                                                                                                                        for $x = 0 ; $x < 52 ; $x++ (Count the weeks in a year basically)

                                                                                                                                                        if $x / 12 then remove 20% revenue do to loss

                                                                                                                                                        Your next year:

                                                                                                                                                        0
                                                                                                                                                        140
                                                                                                                                                        280
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                                                                                                                                                        4330

                                                                                                                                                        The ending month you should have $4330 a month minimum. I have noticed that my begining cost per sale was about $19 and it is now $27. I am learning how to make more money per sale. So the numbers I computer here for you are a bit lower than what you can expect.

                                                                                                                                                        Google for all things Perl, PHP and Mysql. Learn how to make a networked 400 page website out of 2 pages and some ingenuity.

                                                                                                                                                        Stop asking people blanket questions.. "How do I make $20K a month?"

                                                                                                                                                        Start asking yourself how you can generate 1 sale for the week, today.

                                                                                                                                                        If you start getting behind.. Work smarter annnnnd a little bit harder, but mostly smarter.

                                                                                                                                                        AWESOME POST! PROPS !

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                                                                                                                                                          • Nicky
                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                            • 30071
                                                                                                                                                            #189
                                                                                                                                                            u supposed to make money from this?? shiiiittt I gotta get hooked up with this

                                                                                                                                                            gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                                                                                                              • clickhappy
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                • 4027
                                                                                                                                                                #190
                                                                                                                                                                I'm getting killed this month (April) especially. I was bouncing around trying different niches. first big tit, then lesbian, then ebony, then foot and now indian. Im getting killed on Indian, Ill be upside down this month because of indian content and traffic and no sales from it at all.

                                                                                                                                                                I think Im going to do the Quiet route and just put together a kick ass avs and promote the hell out of it, then when its ready move it over to a paysite and continue promting the hell out of it for a few years, and let the rebills roll in.

                                                                                                                                                                I really cant think of another way to start making $10k-$20k a month.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 19634
                                                                                                                                                                    #191
                                                                                                                                                                    i've come close but never hit 20k on any given month but im willing to bet part of the reason ppl like detoxed can make such numbers is because of the contacts he's made over the years.
                                                                                                                                                                    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                                                                      • V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 32451
                                                                                                                                                                        #192
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by squizzel
                                                                                                                                                                        sitting nice on 2k a month... Gaining every day !
                                                                                                                                                                        Nice site, WND!

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                                                                                                                                                                          • V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                                                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                            • 32451
                                                                                                                                                                            #193
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                                                            i've come close but never hit 20k on any given month but im willing to bet part of the reason ppl like detoxed can make such numbers is because of the contacts he's made over the years.
                                                                                                                                                                            Oddly enough, you don't make 20K a month by networking... unless you mean learning techniques from people. I have found that being 'quiet' is a good technique and so is not partnering up. Partnerships are good for knowledge if you both have ideas the other needs, but rarely are not one way or lopsided with one partner reaping much more benifit than the other.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • Rui
                                                                                                                                                                                web
                                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                • 9533
                                                                                                                                                                                #194
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                                                                Oddly enough, you don't make 20K a month by networking... unless you mean learning techniques from people. I have found that being 'quiet' is a good technique and so is not partnering up. Partnerships are good for knowledge if you both have ideas the other needs, but rarely are not one way or lopsided with one partner reaping much more benifit than the other.
                                                                                                                                                                                SO SO SO SO true....

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • khs
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1730
                                                                                                                                                                                    #195
                                                                                                                                                                                    Great thread, learning alot!
                                                                                                                                                                                    Make MORE $$$ now! PussyCash

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Paraskass
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 5829
                                                                                                                                                                                        #196
                                                                                                                                                                                        Everybody who thinks we can all be making 20k a month is smoking crack and I want some of it.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Come on fuckers, why doesn't every movie gross 300 millions $? And why doesn't every fast food restaurant have as many locations as McDonalds?

                                                                                                                                                                                        Same fucking reason as for porn. The market can only take so much. There is a total amount spent on porn and porn related products every year, and it won't go up forever, making the whole market like a big pie. Sure the pie gets a little bigger every year, but basically, the people making more money have a bigger part of the pie. When somebody starts making more money it means that somewhere else, somebody is making less. This can be explained for many reasons (better product, better prices, better services etc...)

                                                                                                                                                                                        Thinking we can all make 20k a month is noncense, unless somebody somewhere goes from making 100k a month to 20k a month so that 4 other people can make 20k.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Last edited by Paraskass; 04-09-2005, 12:57 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Chaldoray
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 2868
                                                                                                                                                                                            #197
                                                                                                                                                                                            Some good information.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • $5 submissions
                                                                                                                                                                                                I help you SUCCEED
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 32189
                                                                                                                                                                                                #198
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by clickhappy
                                                                                                                                                                                                I'm getting killed this month (April) especially. I was bouncing around trying different niches. first big tit, then lesbian, then ebony, then foot and now indian. Im getting killed on Indian, Ill be upside down this month because of indian content and traffic and no sales from it at all.

                                                                                                                                                                                                I think Im going to do the Quiet route and just put together a kick ass avs and promote the hell out of it, then when its ready move it over to a paysite and continue promting the hell out of it for a few years, and let the rebills roll in.

                                                                                                                                                                                                I really cant think of another way to start making $10k-$20k a month.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Email me at info AT webmasterlabor DOT com for assistance with niche INDIAN marketing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Yngwie
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I am an Alien from space
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 11118
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I would like info on blogs.. icq: 16544251
                                                                                                                                                                                                    ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mr Pheer
                                                                                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 22082
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #200
                                                                                                                                                                                                        damn this thread is still going

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