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04-01-2005, 03:09 PM

I've thought about emigrating a few times. Used to own an apartment in Rome and came close to uprooting the family. I'm 29 and just feel like I've done all I can here in the UK. Nothing seems new any more.

Which would be the best and easiest country to emigrate to for an adult webmaster with a squeeze and 2 kids? The current legal system in the US is scary as hell so that's probably off the cards. I need a country that wouldn't give me any problems legally, has a good education and health system, and doesn't make the immigration process as hard as quantum mechanics.

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04-01-2005, 03:14 PM

I'd say Canada off the top of my head. I don't know a lot about immigration here for British citizens, but it meets the rest of your requirments.

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04-01-2005, 03:16 PM

Best place for a family would either be Saudi Arabia, or North Korea. I've even heard Iran is pretty nice as well. All three countries are great for families.

In all honesty though, the United States, Canada, or somewhere else in Europe would be great spots to raise a family.

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04-01-2005, 03:16 PM

Canada would rank high on my list...I had a friend who was originally a Dane, became a UK citizen and ended up settling in the south of Spain most of the year and said he loved it...

Personally I'd love to move my family to Canada (wife says it's too cold, so it's out) or Crete/Greece or really any decent country in the Med...good culture, good food, nice beaches

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04-01-2005, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by WarChild

I'd say Canada off the top of my head. I don't know a lot about immigration here for British citizens, but it meets the rest of your requirments.

A lovely country and I have family in Barrie, Ontario. I think immigration is pretty tough however.
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04-01-2005, 03:27 PM

Turkey (especially agean and south) .. awesome nature, historical places, long summers, nice people, tax free, brunette girls, orange trees, olive oil, high living standarts.... i would like to live in Marmaris or Antalya

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04-01-2005, 03:28 PM

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04-01-2005, 03:29 PM

Been in the States for 5 years now, but I'll tell ya that I would recommend Canada..I really miss it, poeple are great too in the west...fuck Quebec though...fuckin` frogs...

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04-01-2005, 03:30 PM

Some great suggestions so far!
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04-01-2005, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by SoftGalleries

Turkey (especially agean and south) .. awesome nature, historical places, long summers, nice people, tax free, brunette girls, orange trees, olive oil, high living standarts.... i would like to live in Marmaris or Antalya

You know I've never been there but you make it sound great. I'm going to put in a few searches. Thanks
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04-01-2005, 03:33 PM

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04-01-2005, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by SoftGalleries

Turkey (especially agean and south) .. awesome nature, historical places, long summers, nice people, tax free, brunette girls, orange trees, olive oil, high living standarts.... i would like to live in Marmaris or Antalya

Turkey is tax free? Since when?
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04-01-2005, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by SoftGalleries

Turkey (especially agean and south) .. awesome nature, historical places, long summers, nice people, tax free, brunette girls, orange trees, olive oil, high living standarts.... i would like to live in Marmaris or Antalya

I spent a little time in Incirlik...I'd love to go back and checkout a few different places, a lot of history in that region...and would LOVE to visit Istanbul

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04-01-2005, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Kristian

I've thought about emigrating a few times. Used to own an apartment in Rome and came close to uprooting the family. I'm 29 and just feel like I've done all I can here in the UK. Nothing seems new any more.

Which would be the best and easiest country to emigrate to for an adult webmaster with a squeeze and 2 kids? The current legal system in the US is scary as hell so that's probably off the cards. I need a country that wouldn't give me any problems legally, has a good education and health system, and doesn't make the immigration process as hard as quantum mechanics.

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I'd say Canada, or Australia

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04-01-2005, 03:43 PM

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Turkey is tax free? Since when?

If your money comes to your bank account via wire or check from someone and if you don't have any corporatin in there, you don't pay tax or something. I am living this way for 5 years. Is it illegal? No.. it seems like i work in the other country and i live in Turkey. That easy.

But in the US, even if you are student, you have to pay your tax.

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04-01-2005, 03:46 PM

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04-01-2005, 03:48 PM

I've been in Incirlik, Adana once... I have to say those are the worse places i have ever seen in Turkey.. If you wanna see some nice place.. go for Marmaris.. and yes Istanbul is a great place to stay a few weeks.. but i don't recommend to live.. too crowd...

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04-01-2005, 03:52 PM

Since you have a family, your choice lies between USA, Canada, Australia, NZ, and Europe. USA, Canada, Ausralia, NZ requie sought after occupation, plus relevant experience etc for leagl imigration, being an adult webmaster wont get you there.

My number 1 choice in Europe would be Spain, great place, friendly people, and the weather is much better than the weather in the UK...
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04-01-2005, 04:04 PM

Costa Rics or Panama
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04-01-2005, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Antonio

and the weather is much better than the weather in the UK...

That would be just about anywhere in the world

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04-01-2005, 05:22 PM

Some excellent suggestions people. I'm off to bed now but feel free to leave more ideas, i'm sure other people will find this thread useful as well. Cheers!
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04-01-2005, 05:24 PM

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04-01-2005, 06:39 PM

i would say Canada because you have kids...

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04-01-2005, 06:44 PM

Canada..Vancouver is the best part

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04-01-2005, 07:00 PM

I would say ask some of the aussies.
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04-01-2005, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by Kristian

I've thought about emigrating a few times. Used to own an apartment in Rome and came close to uprooting the family. I'm 29 and just feel like I've done all I can here in the UK. Nothing seems new any more.

Which would be the best and easiest country to emigrate to for an adult webmaster with a squeeze and 2 kids? The current legal system in the US is scary as hell so that's probably off the cards. I need a country that wouldn't give me any problems legally, has a good education and health system, and doesn't make the immigration process as hard as quantum mechanics.

Your thoughts.

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04-01-2005, 07:37 PM

Canada

West Coast if possible, beautiful, warm and friendly.

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04-01-2005, 08:00 PM

Webmaster from UK, why not India, Philippines or Thailand?

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04-01-2005, 10:16 PM

From what you describe, I would check out:

west coast of Canada - Vancouver or Victoria

New Zealand

Australia

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04-01-2005, 10:31 PM

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04-01-2005, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by SoftGalleries

If your money comes to your bank account via wire or check from someone and if you don't have any corporatin in there, you don't pay tax or something. I am living this way for 5 years. Is it illegal? No.. it seems like i work in the other country and i live in Turkey. That easy.

But in the US, even if you are student, you have to pay your tax.

That will change when Turkey join EU They will do that in a few years.
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04-01-2005, 10:40 PM

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04-01-2005, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by monro

That will change when Turkey join EU They will do that in a few years.

I doubt that Turkey will be allowed to join the EU

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04-01-2005, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by SoftGalleries

If your money comes to your bank account via wire or check from someone and if you don't have any corporatin in there, you don't pay tax or something. I am living this way for 5 years. Is it illegal? No.. it seems like i work in the other country and i live in Turkey. That easy.

But in the US, even if you are student, you have to pay your tax.

Have you talked to an accountant? You are obligated to declare your world income in the country you are resident. Never heard an exception on this.
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04-02-2005, 12:52 AM

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04-02-2005, 03:32 AM

Good thread. I am in the UK too

I considered immigration and have a family also. For that reason alone (family), I chose not to take the step and do it however top of my list was Spain purely for what many consider to be an improved quality of life.

I believe moving to Spain is still relatively easy from a legal point of view and the many people who I know who have gone honestly wished they had done it sooner.
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04-02-2005, 03:50 AM

Some great info in here, thanks for all the replies!

Canada would be my first choice and I may have discovered a way in. I've found out that one way into the US is to be an investor. I think you have to invest $100K+ in a business and employ 2 or more US citizens. I'm going to approach an immigration lawyer on Monday and see what the procedure would be for canada. I'm thinking I could buy some apartments (maybe even a motel) and at the very least hire a grounds keeps, a cleaner and possibly security. This is also the kind of business that doesn't require much / usually any of my time. No one need know that I make my money online.

I'm looking into it anyway. Thanks for the ideas!
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04-02-2005, 04:18 AM

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04-02-2005, 04:22 AM

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04-02-2005, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by Kristian

Some great info in here, thanks for all the replies!

Canada would be my first choice and I may have discovered a way in. I've found out that one way into the US is to be an investor. I think you have to invest $100K+ in a business and employ 2 or more US citizens. I'm going to approach an immigration lawyer on Monday and see what the procedure would be for canada. I'm thinking I could buy some apartments (maybe even a motel) and at the very least hire a grounds keeps, a cleaner and possibly security. This is also the kind of business that doesn't require much / usually any of my time. No one need know that I make my money online.

I'm looking into it anyway. Thanks for the ideas!

I looked into Canada once, and if you are moving their for business I think it should be relatively easy. I read something about simply opening an office there as a good way to get in too.
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04-02-2005, 04:28 AM

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04-02-2005, 04:40 AM

New Zealand without a doubt......

They have a points system taking into account education, age etc

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04-02-2005, 04:58 AM

AUSTRALIA - Definately!

According to a 2002 survey of 130 cities, the Economist Intelligence Unit rated Melbourne and Vancouver in Canada as the best cities in the world in which to live, with Perth ranked third and Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide tied in eighth place!

That covers every major city in Australia!

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04-02-2005, 06:21 AM

Check out this thread Kristian http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=394111
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04-02-2005, 07:10 AM

Australia, Canada, New Zealand have to be my top picks.

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04-02-2005, 07:13 AM

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04-02-2005, 07:15 AM

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04-02-2005, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by Kristian

Some great info in here, thanks for all the replies!

Canada would be my first choice and I may have discovered a way in. I've found out that one way into the US is to be an investor. I think you have to invest $100K+ in a business and employ 2 or more US citizens. I'm going to approach an immigration lawyer on Monday and see what the procedure would be for canada. I'm thinking I could buy some apartments (maybe even a motel) and at the very least hire a grounds keeps, a cleaner and possibly security. This is also the kind of business that doesn't require much / usually any of my time. No one need know that I make my money online.

I'm looking into it anyway. Thanks for the ideas!

I got this Visa - It's called the E-2 Investors Visa. I got mine for opening up a business in upstate NY. However, unless the regulations changed, it never mentioned $100,000 and 2 employees. Rather it said the investment had to be of a "substantial nature" which my attorney said $250K was the unofficial threshhold to get one.
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04-02-2005, 07:44 AM

Aren't taxes really high in Canada, why would a high earning webmaster want to move there?

I would think somewhere where the average wage is much lower and is safe, so you can live like a king. Such as in Latin America somewhere.
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