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  • The Hun
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 1205

    #501
    I think I don't have to add anything more. You just proved my point. Damn, twisting and turning to make things look true. You guys really leave a great impression here. Very trustworthy indeed. Thanks for showing everybody here the reason I got your server down in the end. You showed yourself as someone with which there's no reasoning possible.

    I don't care about all details, I care about one thing: stop submitting to my site. I know your servers, I now your domain names. I'm not stupid. In your logic you probably are not submitting anymore, but you're letting other people submit your site so you can say you don't submit anymore. I know your 'logic' by now. I don't want any submissions from any of your domains submitted to me any more, no matter by whom. Problem solved.

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    • jqw736145
      So Fucking Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 80

      #502
      Originally posted by quiet
      five hundred ways to die. choose one.
      crucifixion

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      • TDF
        Triple OG nigga on GFY
        • Mar 2002
        • 27296

        #503
        I say one free HUN gallery listing for every active GFY member for "mental stress"
        Sig heil

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        • Incognito
          Confirmed User
          • May 2001
          • 371

          #504
          Originally posted by The Hun
          Oh, there we go again. Club 17 is 18+, nowhere there are they claiming to have 15 year old girls fucked in their ass by their dads. It's pathetic, close to even funny, how you're trying to proof my 'double standards'... listen, I don't cheat on people. Simple. No double standard. I don't post ads about 15 year old girls fucked in their ass by their dads. I don't redirect people.

          I understand you are jealous and all that I make money that you feel should be yours. Fine. That's the nice thing about an open market. But I don't go around scewing your customers do I? I don't go deliberately cheating you by sending you stuff and bend the rules to my liking later, do I? Like I said, I'm done talking with you. I came to the conclusion there's really no arguing with people who think they can not be wrong about something. You people are so much living in your own world that you simply don't care who you screw over for a dime, do you?

          And then to think these dumbo's could be making twice as much as they do now the honest way. They're going for half an hour of being listed on my site while they could be going for a whole year of traffic... Strikes me to see people with these talents can be so dumb at the same time
          1. http://www.seventeenlive.com/domenique.html
          This is where one of Your links go. I dont give a flying fuck about how famous Club 17 is. I give a fuck though that on THAT link it DOESNT say that girls are over 18.
          And the word LOLITA is all over there, where generally lolita means younger than 18.

          2. I doubt that I envy You your money. Excuse me for that.
          But You said, I guote "you simply don't care who you screw over for a dime, do you?".

          That's exactly what TGPkiller is doing with You. Problem is that You're doing the same to paysite owners.

          Listen Hun , I'm done talking too. You make me tired.

          Dont get me wrong, I personally dont see ANYTHING wrong ,and never did , with things like Club 17 or rape fantasy.
          I understand that noone was raped and I am pretty sure that Club 17 is reputable enough to be ok.

          I just dont like Your double standarts which You clearly have and sypmathise TGPkiller more. Hope You can live with this.
          -=almost fucking incognito=-

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          • Fletch XXX
            GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
            • Jan 2002
            • 60840

            #505
            Originally posted by toodamnfli
            I say one free HUN gallery listing for every active GFY member for "mental stress"
            or El Senior Membahs.

            :wake n bake beyotch


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            • Dopy
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2001
              • 1572

              #506
              TGPkiller


              I would save this whole thread for when you grow up and become a man. Then and only then will you be able to understand just why the grown ups here find your argument so childish.

              Perhaps show it to your kids in an effort to avoid them passing into an extended period adolescence like their father.

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              • jqw736145
                So Fucking Banned
                • Oct 2002
                • 80

                #507
                TGPKiller = dumbass

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                • Incognito
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2001
                  • 371

                  #508
                  Originally posted by Dopy
                  TGPkiller


                  I would save this whole thread for when you grow up and become a man. Then and only then will you be able to understand just why the grown ups here find your argument so childish.

                  Perhaps show it to your kids in an effort to avoid them passing into an extended period adolescence like their father.
                  Good idea TGP killer, only after that say "thanks" to Dopy, fire Dopy and get a new janitor.
                  -=almost fucking incognito=-

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                  • grumpy
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 9870

                    #509
                    Incognito.....get som rest in Russia
                    You dont understand and you never will.
                    Your prob.
                    Don't let greediness blur your vision | You gotta let some shit slide
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                    • Dopy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 1572

                      #510
                      Both of you, jump into your 1.5 Deluxe turbo injection Lada's take a relaxing drive in the countryside and think about what I said carefully. You might even return with your balls dropped and a whole new man.

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                      • Fletch XXX
                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 60840

                        #511
                        Originally posted by Dopy
                        Both of you, jump into your 1.5 Deluxe turbo injection Lada's take a relaxing drive in the countryside and think about what I said carefully. You might even return with your balls dropped and a whole new man.
                        Are you implying a man with one nut is less a man than he with two?


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                        • dantheman
                          OG
                          • May 2002
                          • 3308

                          #512
                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX



                          :wake n bake beyotch


                          think I will
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                          • DaLord
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2001
                            • 3318

                            #513
                            You people should make money instead of going through this over and over again.

                            (hehe yea right...)

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                            • Dopy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 1572

                              #514
                              Have you only got one Fletch , I wondered why you spoke in such a squeaky tone LOL

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                              • quiet
                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 25115

                                #515
                                Originally posted by DaLord
                                You people should make money instead of going through this over and over again.

                                (hehe yea right...)
                                with my mind on my money, and my money on my mind.
                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                • Dopy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 1572

                                  #516
                                  Originally posted by DaLord
                                  You people should make money instead of going through this over and over again.

                                  (hehe yea right...)

                                  I have just finished my shift at BK thank you very much.

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                                  • Fletch XXX
                                    GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 60840

                                    #517
                                    Originally posted by Dopy
                                    Have you only got one Fletch , I wondered why you spoke in such a squeaky tone LOL
                                    Nope, but speaking up for those that do!

                                    heheh


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                                    • TGPKiller
                                      Registered User
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 31

                                      #518
                                      Good idea in the last post... Let's go make money.

                                      I think everything is said already. Hun got the prize "the most loved hacker which turned GFY down", I got the title "the guy who redirects everything", Incognito got the title "whatever you say you are russian, go to your lada".

                                      Good luck to everyone, except motherfuckers they can GFY

                                      Special good luck to TGP owners.. you know why...

                                      :D

                                      Best Regards, your big fan from Russia.

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                                      • quiet
                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                        • Sep 2001
                                        • 25115

                                        #519
                                        Originally posted by TGPKiller
                                        Good idea in the last post... Let's go make money.

                                        I think everything is said already. Hun got the prize "the most loved hacker which turned GFY down", I got the title "the guy who redirects everything", Incognito got the title "whatever you say you are russian, go to your lada".

                                        Good luck to everyone, except motherfuckers they can GFY

                                        Special good luck to TGP owners.. you know why...

                                        :D

                                        Best Regards, your big fan from Russia.
                                        you have a very good grasp of written english for a Russian.
                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                        • Akronica
                                          Registered User
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 4

                                          #520
                                          Please send traffic to my homepage: http://www.microsoft.com

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                                          • jqw736145
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 80

                                            #521
                                            Originally posted by TGPKiller
                                            Best Regards, your big fag from Russia.
                                            you said it

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                                            • DaLord
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 3318

                                              #522
                                              Sometimes I catch myself thinking: "Russians are cheaters..."

                                              But then again... there are cheaters in all countries.
                                              The majority of them just seems to be in Russia to be honest.

                                              Howcome I don't have balls to design sites for Russians? There has to be a reason why people deny them access to just about anything on the net.

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                                              • DrGuile
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2002
                                                • 2025

                                                #523
                                                Originally posted by TGPKiller
                                                Good idea in the last post... Let's go make money.

                                                I think everything is said already. Hun got the prize "the most loved hacker which turned GFY down", I got the title "the guy who redirects everything", Incognito got the title "whatever you say you are russian, go to your lada".

                                                Good luck to everyone, except motherfuckers they can GFY

                                                Special good luck to TGP owners.. you know why...

                                                :D

                                                Best Regards, your big fan from Russia.
                                                hey, Im not sure if this was brought up or not, but have you ever thought of making money honestly? Without fucking with the people that are helping you make it?


                                                just a thought...
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                                                • SleazyDream
                                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 41470

                                                  #524
                                                  Originally posted by quiet


                                                  you have a very good grasp of written english for a Russian.
                                                  this is a VERY good point - someone should look into this a little further. He speaks like an american......... (no offense to americans intended)
                                                  This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                  Now read without the word dog.

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                                                  • Seb From Holland
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 2747

                                                    #525
                                                    Originally posted by The Hun
                                                    I think I don't have to add anything more. You just proved my point. Damn, twisting and turning to make things look true. You guys really leave a great impression here. Very trustworthy indeed. Thanks for showing everybody here the reason I got your server down in the end. You showed yourself as someone with which there's no reasoning possible.

                                                    I don't care about all details, I care about one thing: stop submitting to my site. I know your servers, I now your domain names. I'm not stupid. In your logic you probably are not submitting anymore, but you're letting other people submit your site so you can say you don't submit anymore. I know your 'logic' by now. I don't want any submissions from any of your domains submitted to me any more, no matter by whom. Problem solved.
                                                    Hun, don't get all stressed out over some jealous kiddo's. There are lots of people who do know you and know you would never intentionally fuck up somebodies computer for nothing.

                                                    I'm with you on this one. There will probably be posts now about me being an asskisser. Fuck you all, I'm nobodies bitch. I know the truth about this man's honesty.

                                                    Seb.

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                                                    • jqw736145
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 80

                                                      #526
                                                      Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                                      this is a VERY good point - someone should look into this a little further. He speaks like an american......... (no offense to americans intended)
                                                      too polite to be american

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                                                      • Seb From Holland
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2002
                                                        • 2747

                                                        #527
                                                        What an ignorant guy YOU are...

                                                        Originally posted by Incognito

                                                        And the word LOLITA is all over there, where generally lolita means younger than 18.

                                                        NO It doesn't MEAN anything. The explanation of the dictionary states this word means "A seductive adolescent girl." Nothing about her age here.

                                                        Listen Hun , I'm done talking too. You make me tired.

                                                        Then stop posting your ignorant replies.

                                                        I understand that noone was raped and I am pretty sure that Club 17 is reputable enough to be ok.

                                                        You understand ofcoure this Website is part of Club Seventeen and Payserve. AND that the Dutch laws since october state that everything under 18 is illegal so no underaged kid will be found there.

                                                        I just dont like Your double standarts.

                                                        He has none.

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                                                        • 49thParallel
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 1197

                                                          #528
                                                          TGPKIller...at some point the hole you have dug for yourself will get to such a depth that you won't be able to crawl out.

                                                          Yesterday, I pointed out to you that it was YOUR out.php script that was redirecting to GFY. Lensman confirmed this.

                                                          Your links on your main domain go to such beauties as:

                                                          BRUTALLY TORTURED Girls
                                                          ALL Anime forced sex
                                                          VIOLENCE of Girls
                                                          EXTREME TORTURES. DRAWN BABES

                                                          Uh uhh, no implied rape here....

                                                          You have been caught red handed with your hand in the cookie jar...at least muster up the intelligence to realize that you have been caught.

                                                          Is this an endorcement of The Hun...not in a long shot....Young Teens and Beastiality ads brings the both of you to within a hair of winning the race for the "slime" lord of the adult industry.
                                                          Last edited by 49thParallel; 10-27-2002, 11:00 AM.

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                                                          • Incognito
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • May 2001
                                                            • 371

                                                            #529
                                                            49th Parallel, what planet are You from?
                                                            -=almost fucking incognito=-

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                                                            • Incognito
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 371

                                                              #530
                                                              Originally posted by Seb From Holland
                                                              What an ignorant guy YOU are...

                                                              Another unbeleivable fucking idiot.

                                                              Where the fuck did You jump from?

                                                              You said , lolita by dictionary is - "A seductive adolescent girl."
                                                              Great. Now go and look up "adolescent" by dictionary.

                                                              Dictionary.com shows up the following among many choices:
                                                              adolescent

                                                              adj 1: relating to or peculiar to or suggestive of an adolescent; "adolescent problems" 2: being of the age 13 through 19; "teenage mothers"; "the teen years" [syn: teen, teenage, teenaged] 3: displaying or suggesting a lack of maturity; "adolescent insecurity"; "jejune responses to our problems"; "their behavior was juvenile"; "puerile jokes" [syn: jejune, juvenile, puerile] 4: in the state of development between puberty and maturity; "adolescent boys and girls" n : a juvenile between the onset of puberty and maturity [syn: stripling, teenager]

                                                              I hope You do notice 13-19 as an age specification.
                                                              -=almost fucking incognito=-

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                                                              • 49thParallel
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                • 1197

                                                                #531
                                                                Incognito...pick a side for god's sake. First you tear into me because I am putting down the Hun and TGPKiller for their promoting of rape and/or underage sex. Then you put down the Hun for defending his posting of adolescent sex. You can sit on the fence, but you can't occupy both sides...

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                                                                • Fletch XXX
                                                                  GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 60840

                                                                  #532
                                                                  w3rd


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                                                                  • Serge_Oprano
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                    • 9820

                                                                    #533
                                                                    Originally posted by Due
                                                                    Use htaccess to setup a password for traffic comming from thehun.net.
                                                                    Redirect 401 to a password protected area. And redirect that to a password protected area. etc etc.
                                                                    Then visiting thehun would be very annoying since it will keep asking for a password all the time and mayby thehun will figure out some other way to deal with cheaters or whatever it is.
                                                                    bullshit, employ chechens on him!
                                                                    ;-)))

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                                                                    • WallaceW
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 106

                                                                      #534
                                                                      I have a solution for TGPs dealing with cheaters. Btw, I have 2 solutions, so please choose the proper one:

                                                                      1. Instead of doing robot and live checking all the galleries all the day, why don't you make a script that checks a page 'live' when somebody click on the link on your site?

                                                                      So, when you approve some submition, you make a copy of it, or just a CRC check of the html. Then when somebody click on some link, script checks CRC code of the target html page 'live' - if it's identical then you send your user to that site, if it's not then just inform your user that this page doesn't exist anymore and delete that link form your site. And your script shoud use a rotated list of Anonymous proxies, so every time somebody click on link, diferent proxy checks the CRC of that site...

                                                                      2. I am not familiar with IMG SRCing stuff, so can somebody explain it to me if I am wrong... But, what I can think off it's that this thing also hurts bandwidth of someone that is sending it... right? (The Hun in this case) If so, then instead of sending so much traffic that hurts you too, why don't you make a copy of every gallery you approve and host it on your servers, so anybody can't change it?

                                                                      ---

                                                                      Ok, that 2nd solution is a joke but I really think that 1st one could be done.

                                                                      And I am not defending anybody's point in this post (case). I agree and/or disagree with anyone that send any comment here But most of post was just bitching about something and very little was constructive about some solutions of this problem... So that's my 2 cents....

                                                                      P.S. If anybody like the solution no. 1 and make this script, they should contact me about my copyrights for the idea
                                                                      Where is my sig?!?

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                                                                      • Easy
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                        • 79

                                                                        #535
                                                                        Originally posted by WallaceW
                                                                        So, when you approve some submition, you make a copy of it, or just a CRC check of the html. Then when somebody click on some link, script checks CRC code of the target html page 'live' - if it's identical then you send your user to that site, if it's not then just inform your user that this page doesn't exist anymore and delete that link form your site.
                                                                        not really a good idea... a link checker uses a lot of resources and it checks only a few galleries at a time. Now imagine this 'live' checking on a bigger site. Hundreds of clicks in one second... hundreds of additional processes. You'd need a lot of computers to handle the necessary CPU usage. And every check of a gallery implies that the requested gallery needs to be opened by the script, checked and then the surfer can load it. Means he probably has to wait a few seconds (I guess 5-10) before the script sends him to the URL (only if there's enough CPU power). Surfers get bored and leave your site.

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                                                                        • Incognito
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                          • 371

                                                                          #536
                                                                          Wallace, You're a genious. Seriously.

                                                                          Really, put galleries on YOUR server Hun, and viola. No redirection is possible aint it right? What can be easier? Made a gallery, upload it to FTP , all automatical and that's it.



                                                                          But You wont do it cause it costs money right? Well...Your TGP also costs money for paysite owners all over the world.
                                                                          Tough luck I guess.
                                                                          -=almost fucking incognito=-

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                                                                          • edmo
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                                            • 359

                                                                            #537
                                                                            don't hate the players, hate the game.

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                                                                            • Incognito
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 371

                                                                              #538
                                                                              Originally posted by 49thParallel
                                                                              Incognito...pick a side for god's sake. First you tear into me because I am putting down the Hun and TGPKiller for their promoting of rape and/or underage sex. Then you put down the Hun for defending his posting of adolescent sex. You can sit on the fence, but you can't occupy both sides...
                                                                              Look, my point was very simple.
                                                                              Hun has enough of what's called "questionable content" himself on his TGP so why does it matter where TGP killer redirects traffic to?

                                                                              If TGP killer was forwarding the traffic to real child porn or lolita sites I would have understand Hun and stay away of this discussion. Otherwise it's pretty stupid, You cant really say that sites Hun advertises himself are less questionable than what TGP killer advertises. Just the same so called "questionable" stuff.

                                                                              So why did Hun even mention where that traffic went?

                                                                              Because he makes it look like a bad bad bad russian cheater rape shit guy vs. good great and morale Hun guy situation which is not true and is what I call double standarts.

                                                                              And he has to do it, because if You will think for just one second that there's no real difference between them in the way they work when it comes to what they promote - then one of them, namely Hun, has gone to dirty tricks, namely IMG sourcing, which in the end has put this very board for the second or third time down. As someone said "brilliant idea" which I do NOT support, I just comment the situation.

                                                                              Guys like You who run around without trying to understand the real situation and send me or TGP killer here insults, 49th parallel, I beg You to excuse me, if I am wrong, are probably newbies or average webmasters who simply to be true dont see the whole picture. I dont even feel insulted, because I dont get insulted when I get insults from people who are in a bend over position without even realising it.

                                                                              Let me tell You this. When I started 3 or 4 years ago I read some of Huns posts on forums and read what he says on his own site and my view about him was TOTALLY the same as Yours : "Wow! What a great guy!" Untill I started to notice on boards and got various webmasters notes passed to me through my work , that the guy is not really honest so to say. What he says is not exactly what he always does. Just like this situation today.

                                                                              And then I understood also that there's nothing strange that among big players or middle players quite a lot of people dislike TGPs, without saying it on public of course because since most of traffic is on TGPs now it's a bad idea to have a conflict with them.
                                                                              But they do dislike them because TGPs really hurted this biz a great deal.

                                                                              Look, You cant offer something for free which is being sold in real world. Know why? Because in every biz there's a cost of what You sell. If You sell rocks for example or cars or whatever, You got to pay something for them Yourself dont You? Buy them or create them but spend money on it nevertheless.


                                                                              Well TGP's have used the lack of law in the internet to bypass this simple biz. law. Because they dont buy content. They dont pay even for bandwidth.

                                                                              If the normal law in the internet WAS working then most of TGP's wont work because at least 50% of what's posted there is either stolen or not licensed good enough to be posted on TGPs.
                                                                              I hope You do follow me.

                                                                              What this leads to is that it's profitable enough to mantain the TGP as long as the only money You invest is mantainance money.

                                                                              IT DOESNT MATTER THAT THE AMOUNT OF CONTENT USED ON A TGP MAKES THE TGP OWNER 100 TIMES LESS THAN THE SAME AMOUNT USUALLY MAKES THE PAYSITE OWNER BECAUSE TGP DOESNT PAY FOR CONTENT.

                                                                              That's what REALLY is fucking someone for a dime as Hun called it.

                                                                              Because if someone gets for FREE what they payed for they wont pay for it any longer of course and people who pay for creating the content have to pay less to mantain their profitability , in the long run it hurts whole of the industry. It hurts You too , 49th Parallel, think of that when one of You sponsors fucks You because he wants to earn as much money as he did years ago or when a content producer asks MORE money for a single shitty set just because he has too to mantain his business profitable becaue no one is buying content that good as it was before.

                                                                              However it is not important if You do understand this or not, even if the whole net will understand this - nothing will change. Why? Because this is the nature of people. Public opinion doesnt really change much. Revolutions luckily dont happen just because people understand that something is wrong. TGPs occupied their place long time ago and noone is able to change it.

                                                                              Unless...

                                                                              Why doesnt it happen so in the real life? Why if wolves eat rabbits in the forest rabbits still exist? Because rabbits fuck too fast. And because wolves also have their natural enemies.

                                                                              Why if SPAM is such a good way to sell porn everyone is not doing it, like they were doint it for example 5 or how many years ago? Because there are antispam organizations now. Internet just as any society or nature has means of automatical self controlling
                                                                              from extreme situations. For example spam is obviously too extreme therefore it gets controlled.

                                                                              TGPs are too extreme, they fuck people for a dime. But there's a natural biz. law being broken and that cant go forever simply because the world works different.

                                                                              This newly TPGy cheaters may be are just means of net evolution and are just natural enemies of TGPs. Because to fight with them effectively You really either have to host Your galleries yourself and pay for bandwidth or to mantain offices of live checking people with salaries.

                                                                              Just the same as it was with spam. You could do it sometime, but You couldnt hope to do it forever. Even huge cigarette companies get fucked You know.

                                                                              By the way, do You think they get fucked because people understand that it's bad to smoke? I doubt it. They probably like anything else out there have their natural enemies and that's it.

                                                                              That's how I see it.

                                                                              So I DONT support TGP killer in what's he's doing. I just think that it's natural and I think that I dislike people with double standarts.

                                                                              You see 49th Parallel, if You say that Hun and TGP killer are BOTH wrong to work with bestiality, rape fantasies, anything which SUGGESTS that something is younger than 18 than , even though I dont think so myself and dont find those materials objectionable, well suggested younger than 18 is a definite no-no for me though, but rape fantasy - I like it , so if You think that BOTH of them are wrong in Your opinion - I cant say that You're doing something wrong.

                                                                              It's Your position against some types of content and I respect it just as much as I respect any straight forward point of view.

                                                                              I hope You had a few minutes to read it and to understand what I mean.
                                                                              -=almost fucking incognito=-

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                                                                              • Pornwolf
                                                                                Drunk and Unruly
                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                • 22712

                                                                                #539
                                                                                I stopped reading this after page 6. 2 days later I come back and pick up at page 11 only to find more russians arguing. A stupid and redundant childporn/rape/bestiality argument and to top all of this off, Persian Kitty reciting lines from the Ketchup Song and Eminems latest while getting hit on by a freaky greek dude!!!

                                                                                This has to be the most bizarre thread ever. You deserve the dvd for this Lens.
                                                                                I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                                Webair, bitches.

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                                                                                • Firehorse
                                                                                  Desire it and have it!!!
                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                  • 30767

                                                                                  #540
                                                                                  Originally posted by edmo
                                                                                  don't hate the players, hate the game.
                                                                                  a bit like:

                                                                                  hate the sin,
                                                                                  love the sinner!
                                                                                  MySweetEbony

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                                                                                  • Easy
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                    • 79

                                                                                    #541
                                                                                    Originally posted by Incognito


                                                                                    Look, my point was very simple.
                                                                                    Hun has enough of what's called "questionable content" himself on his TGP so why does it matter where TGP killer redirects traffic to?

                                                                                    If TGP killer was forwarding the traffic to real child porn or lolita sites I would have understand Hun and stay away of this discussion. Otherwise it's pretty stupid, You cant really say that sites Hun advertises himself are less questionable than what TGP killer advertises. Just the same so called "questionable" stuff.

                                                                                    So why did Hun even mention where that traffic went?

                                                                                    Because he makes it look like a bad bad bad russian cheater rape shit guy vs. good great and morale Hun guy situation which is not true and is what I call double standarts.

                                                                                    And he has to do it, because if You will think for just one second that there's no real difference between them in the way they work when it comes to what they promote - then one of them, namely Hun, has gone to dirty tricks, namely IMG sourcing, which in the end has put this very board for the second or third time down. As someone said "brilliant idea" which I do NOT support, I just comment the situation.

                                                                                    Guys like You who run around without trying to understand the real situation and send me or TGP killer here insults, 49th parallel, I beg You to excuse me, if I am wrong, are probably newbies or average webmasters who simply to be true dont see the whole picture. I dont even feel insulted, because I dont get insulted when I get insults from people who are in a bend over position without even realising it.

                                                                                    Let me tell You this. When I started 3 or 4 years ago I read some of Huns posts on forums and read what he says on his own site and my view about him was TOTALLY the same as Yours : "Wow! What a great guy!" Untill I started to notice on boards and got various webmasters notes passed to me through my work , that the guy is not really honest so to say. What he says is not exactly what he always does. Just like this situation today.

                                                                                    And then I understood also that there's nothing strange that among big players or middle players quite a lot of people dislike TGPs, without saying it on public of course because since most of traffic is on TGPs now it's a bad idea to have a conflict with them.
                                                                                    But they do dislike them because TGPs really hurted this biz a great deal.

                                                                                    Look, You cant offer something for free which is being sold in real world. Know why? Because in every biz there's a cost of what You sell. If You sell rocks for example or cars or whatever, You got to pay something for them Yourself dont You? Buy them or create them but spend money on it nevertheless.


                                                                                    Well TGP's have used the lack of law in the internet to bypass this simple biz. law. Because they dont buy content. They dont pay even for bandwidth.

                                                                                    If the normal law in the internet WAS working then most of TGP's wont work because at least 50% of what's posted there is either stolen or not licensed good enough to be posted on TGPs.
                                                                                    I hope You do follow me.

                                                                                    What this leads to is that it's profitable enough to mantain the TGP as long as the only money You invest is mantainance money.

                                                                                    IT DOESNT MATTER THAT THE AMOUNT OF CONTENT USED ON A TGP MAKES THE TGP OWNER 100 TIMES LESS THAN THE SAME AMOUNT USUALLY MAKES THE PAYSITE OWNER BECAUSE TGP DOESNT PAY FOR CONTENT.

                                                                                    That's what REALLY is fucking someone for a dime as Hun called it.

                                                                                    Because if someone gets for FREE what they payed for they wont pay for it any longer of course and people who pay for creating the content have to pay less to mantain their profitability , in the long run it hurts whole of the industry. It hurts You too , 49th Parallel, think of that when one of You sponsors fucks You because he wants to earn as much money as he did years ago or when a content producer asks MORE money for a single shitty set just because he has too to mantain his business profitable becaue no one is buying content that good as it was before.

                                                                                    However it is not important if You do understand this or not, even if the whole net will understand this - nothing will change. Why? Because this is the nature of people. Public opinion doesnt really change much. Revolutions luckily dont happen just because people understand that something is wrong. TGPs occupied their place long time ago and noone is able to change it.

                                                                                    Unless...

                                                                                    Why doesnt it happen so in the real life? Why if wolves eat rabbits in the forest rabbits still exist? Because rabbits fuck too fast. And because wolves also have their natural enemies.

                                                                                    Why if SPAM is such a good way to sell porn everyone is not doing it, like they were doint it for example 5 or how many years ago? Because there are antispam organizations now. Internet just as any society or nature has means of automatical self controlling
                                                                                    from extreme situations. For example spam is obviously too extreme therefore it gets controlled.

                                                                                    TGPs are too extreme, they fuck people for a dime. But there's a natural biz. law being broken and that cant go forever simply because the world works different.

                                                                                    This newly TPGy cheaters may be are just means of net evolution and are just natural enemies of TGPs. Because to fight with them effectively You really either have to host Your galleries yourself and pay for bandwidth or to mantain offices of live checking people with salaries.

                                                                                    Just the same as it was with spam. You could do it sometime, but You couldnt hope to do it forever. Even huge cigarette companies get fucked You know.

                                                                                    By the way, do You think they get fucked because people understand that it's bad to smoke? I doubt it. They probably like anything else out there have their natural enemies and that's it.

                                                                                    That's how I see it.

                                                                                    So I DONT support TGP killer in what's he's doing. I just think that it's natural and I think that I dislike people with double standarts.

                                                                                    You see 49th Parallel, if You say that Hun and TGP killer are BOTH wrong to work with bestiality, rape fantasies, anything which SUGGESTS that something is younger than 18 than , even though I dont think so myself and dont find those materials objectionable, well suggested younger than 18 is a definite no-no for me though, but rape fantasy - I like it , so if You think that BOTH of them are wrong in Your opinion - I cant say that You're doing something wrong.

                                                                                    It's Your position against some types of content and I respect it just as much as I respect any straight forward point of view.

                                                                                    I hope You had a few minutes to read it and to understand what I mean.

                                                                                    I'm to lazy to read that. Can you say it again in one sentence (10 words max.)??

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                                                                                    • jqw736145
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 80

                                                                                      #542
                                                                                      Originally posted by Incognito


                                                                                      Look, my point was very simple.
                                                                                      Hun has enough of what's called "questionable content" himself on his TGP so why does it matter where TGP killer redirects traffic to?

                                                                                      If TGP killer was forwarding the traffic to real child porn or lolita sites I would have understand Hun and stay away of this discussion. Otherwise it's pretty stupid, You cant really say that sites Hun advertises himself are less questionable than what TGP killer advertises. Just the same so called "questionable" stuff.

                                                                                      So why did Hun even mention where that traffic went?

                                                                                      Because he makes it look like a bad bad bad russian cheater rape shit guy vs. good great and morale Hun guy situation which is not true and is what I call double standarts.

                                                                                      And he has to do it, because if You will think for just one second that there's no real difference between them in the way they work when it comes to what they promote - then one of them, namely Hun, has gone to dirty tricks, namely IMG sourcing, which in the end has put this very board for the second or third time down. As someone said "brilliant idea" which I do NOT support, I just comment the situation.

                                                                                      Guys like You who run around without trying to understand the real situation and send me or TGP killer here insults, 49th parallel, I beg You to excuse me, if I am wrong, are probably newbies or average webmasters who simply to be true dont see the whole picture. I dont even feel insulted, because I dont get insulted when I get insults from people who are in a bend over position without even realising it.

                                                                                      Let me tell You this. When I started 3 or 4 years ago I read some of Huns posts on forums and read what he says on his own site and my view about him was TOTALLY the same as Yours : "Wow! What a great guy!" Untill I started to notice on boards and got various webmasters notes passed to me through my work , that the guy is not really honest so to say. What he says is not exactly what he always does. Just like this situation today.

                                                                                      And then I understood also that there's nothing strange that among big players or middle players quite a lot of people dislike TGPs, without saying it on public of course because since most of traffic is on TGPs now it's a bad idea to have a conflict with them.
                                                                                      But they do dislike them because TGPs really hurted this biz a great deal.

                                                                                      Look, You cant offer something for free which is being sold in real world. Know why? Because in every biz there's a cost of what You sell. If You sell rocks for example or cars or whatever, You got to pay something for them Yourself dont You? Buy them or create them but spend money on it nevertheless.


                                                                                      Well TGP's have used the lack of law in the internet to bypass this simple biz. law. Because they dont buy content. They dont pay even for bandwidth.

                                                                                      If the normal law in the internet WAS working then most of TGP's wont work because at least 50% of what's posted there is either stolen or not licensed good enough to be posted on TGPs.
                                                                                      I hope You do follow me.

                                                                                      What this leads to is that it's profitable enough to mantain the TGP as long as the only money You invest is mantainance money.

                                                                                      IT DOESNT MATTER THAT THE AMOUNT OF CONTENT USED ON A TGP MAKES THE TGP OWNER 100 TIMES LESS THAN THE SAME AMOUNT USUALLY MAKES THE PAYSITE OWNER BECAUSE TGP DOESNT PAY FOR CONTENT.

                                                                                      That's what REALLY is fucking someone for a dime as Hun called it.

                                                                                      Because if someone gets for FREE what they payed for they wont pay for it any longer of course and people who pay for creating the content have to pay less to mantain their profitability , in the long run it hurts whole of the industry. It hurts You too , 49th Parallel, think of that when one of You sponsors fucks You because he wants to earn as much money as he did years ago or when a content producer asks MORE money for a single shitty set just because he has too to mantain his business profitable becaue no one is buying content that good as it was before.

                                                                                      However it is not important if You do understand this or not, even if the whole net will understand this - nothing will change. Why? Because this is the nature of people. Public opinion doesnt really change much. Revolutions luckily dont happen just because people understand that something is wrong. TGPs occupied their place long time ago and noone is able to change it.

                                                                                      Unless...

                                                                                      Why doesnt it happen so in the real life? Why if wolves eat rabbits in the forest rabbits still exist? Because rabbits fuck too fast. And because wolves also have their natural enemies.

                                                                                      Why if SPAM is such a good way to sell porn everyone is not doing it, like they were doint it for example 5 or how many years ago? Because there are antispam organizations now. Internet just as any society or nature has means of automatical self controlling
                                                                                      from extreme situations. For example spam is obviously too extreme therefore it gets controlled.

                                                                                      TGPs are too extreme, they fuck people for a dime. But there's a natural biz. law being broken and that cant go forever simply because the world works different.

                                                                                      This newly TPGy cheaters may be are just means of net evolution and are just natural enemies of TGPs. Because to fight with them effectively You really either have to host Your galleries yourself and pay for bandwidth or to mantain offices of live checking people with salaries.

                                                                                      Just the same as it was with spam. You could do it sometime, but You couldnt hope to do it forever. Even huge cigarette companies get fucked You know.

                                                                                      By the way, do You think they get fucked because people understand that it's bad to smoke? I doubt it. They probably like anything else out there have their natural enemies and that's it.

                                                                                      That's how I see it.

                                                                                      So I DONT support TGP killer in what's he's doing. I just think that it's natural and I think that I dislike people with double standarts.

                                                                                      You see 49th Parallel, if You say that Hun and TGP killer are BOTH wrong to work with bestiality, rape fantasies, anything which SUGGESTS that something is younger than 18 than , even though I dont think so myself and dont find those materials objectionable, well suggested younger than 18 is a definite no-no for me though, but rape fantasy - I like it , so if You think that BOTH of them are wrong in Your opinion - I cant say that You're doing something wrong.

                                                                                      It's Your position against some types of content and I respect it just as much as I respect any straight forward point of view.

                                                                                      I hope You had a few minutes to read it and to understand what I mean.

                                                                                      why don't you go earn some money, instead of typing out your life story

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                                                                                      • SR
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                        • 2239

                                                                                        #543
                                                                                        Originally posted by Incognito


                                                                                        Look, my point was very simple.
                                                                                        Hun has enough of what's called "questionable content" himself on his TGP so why does it matter where TGP killer redirects traffic to?

                                                                                        If TGP killer was forwarding the traffic to real child porn or lolita sites I would have understand Hun and stay away of this discussion. Otherwise it's pretty stupid, You cant really say that sites Hun advertises himself are less questionable than what TGP killer advertises. Just the same so called "questionable" stuff.

                                                                                        So why did Hun even mention where that traffic went?

                                                                                        Because he makes it look like a bad bad bad russian cheater rape shit guy vs. good great and morale Hun guy situation which is not true and is what I call double standarts.

                                                                                        And he has to do it, because if You will think for just one second that there's no real difference between them in the way they work when it comes to what they promote - then one of them, namely Hun, has gone to dirty tricks, namely IMG sourcing, which in the end has put this very board for the second or third time down. As someone said "brilliant idea" which I do NOT support, I just comment the situation.

                                                                                        Guys like You who run around without trying to understand the real situation and send me or TGP killer here insults, 49th parallel, I beg You to excuse me, if I am wrong, are probably newbies or average webmasters who simply to be true dont see the whole picture. I dont even feel insulted, because I dont get insulted when I get insults from people who are in a bend over position without even realising it.

                                                                                        Let me tell You this. When I started 3 or 4 years ago I read some of Huns posts on forums and read what he says on his own site and my view about him was TOTALLY the same as Yours : "Wow! What a great guy!" Untill I started to notice on boards and got various webmasters notes passed to me through my work , that the guy is not really honest so to say. What he says is not exactly what he always does. Just like this situation today.

                                                                                        And then I understood also that there's nothing strange that among big players or middle players quite a lot of people dislike TGPs, without saying it on public of course because since most of traffic is on TGPs now it's a bad idea to have a conflict with them.
                                                                                        But they do dislike them because TGPs really hurted this biz a great deal.

                                                                                        Look, You cant offer something for free which is being sold in real world. Know why? Because in every biz there's a cost of what You sell. If You sell rocks for example or cars or whatever, You got to pay something for them Yourself dont You? Buy them or create them but spend money on it nevertheless.


                                                                                        Well TGP's have used the lack of law in the internet to bypass this simple biz. law. Because they dont buy content. They dont pay even for bandwidth.

                                                                                        If the normal law in the internet WAS working then most of TGP's wont work because at least 50% of what's posted there is either stolen or not licensed good enough to be posted on TGPs.
                                                                                        I hope You do follow me.

                                                                                        What this leads to is that it's profitable enough to mantain the TGP as long as the only money You invest is mantainance money.

                                                                                        IT DOESNT MATTER THAT THE AMOUNT OF CONTENT USED ON A TGP MAKES THE TGP OWNER 100 TIMES LESS THAN THE SAME AMOUNT USUALLY MAKES THE PAYSITE OWNER BECAUSE TGP DOESNT PAY FOR CONTENT.

                                                                                        That's what REALLY is fucking someone for a dime as Hun called it.

                                                                                        Because if someone gets for FREE what they payed for they wont pay for it any longer of course and people who pay for creating the content have to pay less to mantain their profitability , in the long run it hurts whole of the industry. It hurts You too , 49th Parallel, think of that when one of You sponsors fucks You because he wants to earn as much money as he did years ago or when a content producer asks MORE money for a single shitty set just because he has too to mantain his business profitable becaue no one is buying content that good as it was before.

                                                                                        However it is not important if You do understand this or not, even if the whole net will understand this - nothing will change. Why? Because this is the nature of people. Public opinion doesnt really change much. Revolutions luckily dont happen just because people understand that something is wrong. TGPs occupied their place long time ago and noone is able to change it.

                                                                                        Unless...

                                                                                        Why doesnt it happen so in the real life? Why if wolves eat rabbits in the forest rabbits still exist? Because rabbits fuck too fast. And because wolves also have their natural enemies.

                                                                                        Why if SPAM is such a good way to sell porn everyone is not doing it, like they were doint it for example 5 or how many years ago? Because there are antispam organizations now. Internet just as any society or nature has means of automatical self controlling
                                                                                        from extreme situations. For example spam is obviously too extreme therefore it gets controlled.

                                                                                        TGPs are too extreme, they fuck people for a dime. But there's a natural biz. law being broken and that cant go forever simply because the world works different.

                                                                                        This newly TPGy cheaters may be are just means of net evolution and are just natural enemies of TGPs. Because to fight with them effectively You really either have to host Your galleries yourself and pay for bandwidth or to mantain offices of live checking people with salaries.

                                                                                        Just the same as it was with spam. You could do it sometime, but You couldnt hope to do it forever. Even huge cigarette companies get fucked You know.

                                                                                        By the way, do You think they get fucked because people understand that it's bad to smoke? I doubt it. They probably like anything else out there have their natural enemies and that's it.

                                                                                        That's how I see it.

                                                                                        So I DONT support TGP killer in what's he's doing. I just think that it's natural and I think that I dislike people with double standarts.

                                                                                        You see 49th Parallel, if You say that Hun and TGP killer are BOTH wrong to work with bestiality, rape fantasies, anything which SUGGESTS that something is younger than 18 than , even though I dont think so myself and dont find those materials objectionable, well suggested younger than 18 is a definite no-no for me though, but rape fantasy - I like it , so if You think that BOTH of them are wrong in Your opinion - I cant say that You're doing something wrong.

                                                                                        It's Your position against some types of content and I respect it just as much as I respect any straight forward point of view.

                                                                                        I hope You had a few minutes to read it and to understand what I mean.
                                                                                        I didn't read your whole post.
                                                                                        Just the first line shows that you have no clue at all.
                                                                                        People like you give Russians an even worse name then they already have.

                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                        • Incognito
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                          • 371

                                                                                          #544
                                                                                          Originally posted by Easy



                                                                                          I'm to lazy to read that. Can you say it again in one sentence (10 words max.)??
                                                                                          of course: fuck you.
                                                                                          -=almost fucking incognito=-

                                                                                          Comment

                                                                                          • Incognito
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • May 2001
                                                                                            • 371

                                                                                            #545
                                                                                            Originally posted by SR


                                                                                            I didn't read your whole post.
                                                                                            Just the first line shows that you have no clue at all.
                                                                                            People like you give Russians an even worse name then they already have.
                                                                                            Oh damn it. Listen , get Yourself some reputation first - than teach others.
                                                                                            Cant beleive it. Another fucking designer. You're not even a fucking webmaster and here we are - already teaching.
                                                                                            -=almost fucking incognito=-

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                                                                                            • jqw736145
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 80

                                                                                              #546
                                                                                              Originally posted by Incognito


                                                                                              of course: fuck you.
                                                                                              russian humor

                                                                                              hysterical

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                                                                                              • Incognito
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 371

                                                                                                #547
                                                                                                Originally posted by jqw736145


                                                                                                russian humor

                                                                                                hysterical
                                                                                                Heh, when You're good You're good...
                                                                                                What can I do?
                                                                                                -=almost fucking incognito=-

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                                                                                                • SR
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 2239

                                                                                                  #548
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Incognito


                                                                                                  Oh damn it. Listen , get Yourself some reputation first - than teach others.
                                                                                                  Cant beleive it. Another fucking designer. You're not even a fucking webmaster and here we are - already teaching.
                                                                                                  Boy designing is more of a hobby and not my mainbusiness.
                                                                                                  What's your job?
                                                                                                  Trying to help a Komrad who has his head in his ass and making a fool of yourself?

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                                                                                                  • Niko
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                                    • 120

                                                                                                    #549
                                                                                                    Masturbation is your business and business is good, isnt't it, SR?

                                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                                    • Scully0325
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                      • 354

                                                                                                      #550
                                                                                                      SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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