So I found this chick on MySpace...Good solo girl or not?

I think you posted the wrong profile...

I'm also working on this one.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=10002708

A little rough around the edges but with my expertise...She could make at least 12k a year.

Nope....Seems to be working fine.

However...This bitch is a lost cause.

Not a prayer in the world can help her.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=14030326

Uh, yeah you might be to something there Aaron. They just might make it in this biz :/

Sweet.... dude.. you are the man.

I know. That's why I shoot for the clients I shoot for.

Who do you shoot for again?

I think She's ok for a model.

I think she´ll make it!!

You guys might want to have a look at my friends list at www.myspace.com/dregfy . I'm sure you'll find plenty of chicks that will make good money.

Keep up the great work.

I will. My clients and the models I pay depend on it.

cool... you are the man... like i said.

God damn I'm good.

Chrome's blood is boiling right about now.

Ya just had to fuck me over didn't ya, dude? What a shame.

You could try talking to this girl, http://www.myspace.com/jordancapri I think I have heard of her.

That's the problem. Everybody has heard of her. I prefer to find the fresh faces like the ones I posted above.

Yer not that good holmes.... not till you lose the gag reflex. ;-)

Very sexay !!

argh, those arms needs a waxing!

Looking good...

Egomancer

Your photos are extremely flat and boring, you can own all the equipment in the world, you still have no skillz when it comes to lighting.

That's hot shit right there.

The sad thing is that you can shoot circles around me any day of the week but you can't pay your bills or your models. What kind of person makes their living a photographer, has the skills you have, and is always broke?

So....You took a better pic of her. So what? What do EITHER of you have to show for it?

Not a God damn thing. In fact.....Rumor has it that you had to move your studio because you couldn't afford the rent any longer.

Now many years have you been asking me to help you make money in this biz? How many discussions have we had where you refused to listen to me after you asked for my help?

Why are you even posting here again? Trying to drum up business? But I thought you were against making money?

Keep up the fag jokes. It's a useless defense against the truth but it's better than nothing I suppose.

I fully agree.....But I still make a decent living off the crap I produce.

I don't shoot for the glamour market. I shoot for the amateur solo girl market.

Big difference. haven't I owned you enough times already in the last 24 hours?

The really sad thing is... I post a compliment here and you have to berate me.

= OWNAGE

That's life.

Try posting a sincere compliment next time.

she's pretty cute. looks like she already has her own site, though.. (tehe..)

she needs to shave her arms, though....

i didnt even notice the arms until d00t said something lol fucking ruined it for me

Hairy arms or not...My clients love her. One of them came back and ordered a second shoot of her and he has never done that with any other model.

The girl is fine as hell and a real sweetheart to boot. I couldn't ask for a better model to work with. Plus....She has referred me some of her friends, one of which I am shooting on Monday.

I was just making a comment on it..I still think she's sexy as hell!

I know. It's all good.

myspace is content central, if your not looking there your lookin in the wrong place

I have no idea what the drama between you and Chrome is but I thought I'd just drop in and leave my ass imprint on the couch for a bit

You can only own me if I care, which I don't, vice versa I am sure.

You should come back to Portland sometime soon.

You should come back to Portland sometime soon.


And I'll tell ya what it is all about......

Remember this day?



Chrome lied to the curly haired because he was pissed that I was going to make her more money than he could so he did what he could do to fuck up the deal.

Of course you care. That's why you started attacking me when you didn't like what I had to say about you.

Go on....Pretend otherwise.

Uh ya, I really care what some overweight dime a dozen porn photog who doesn't know shit about me, how much I make, or even what i do, thinks about me. Trust me I ain't losing any sleep over what you think or say, you're not that important.

If I ever had any fucking freetime anymore I'd definately come down. I had a blast chillin' with you and the gurls

Chrome: karma's a bitch.

The following might explain Aaron's problem. He's has been spreading this theory that I told something to someone that i didn't, what's even better is he's talking about a close friend of mine that went through some really tramatic shit and disappeared from modelling because of it. I'm not sure how much Not that it even fucking matters to me anyway. He thinks that because i'm not doing things his way that i'm wrong which i think is pretty fucking petty. Then he gets to work with models that i get geared up for this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
Yes there is a reason I chose to escalate this. YOU made an inaccurate comment in order to take away from my opinion because you didn't like what I had to say. I don't see you bitching about the others who feel the same way I do.

Post all the bullshit you want about your version of success. we have had in depth personal conversations about this and unlike you, I will not be disclosing full details to others.

As far as Ashley goes......Her and I were discussing this back between October and January....I forget exactly when. But what I do know is that she is still looking for paid work since whatever you told her has obviously not worked out. Her OMP profile was updated in March as well.

All you have done is pissed me off, cost her money, and ended our friendship along with any chance of us ever doing business together.

I'm done with this thread now. If you want to talk to me on the phone so badly then find my number like "your models" do when they call me so they can actually make money instead of working for free with you.

Curly Haired model:

Aaron, it would GREAT if you could keep my name (and my REAL name to top it off) out of this forum. He would have known exactly who you were talking about, minus my personal information that you made public. I dont appreciate you linking my OMP profile here either.

First off... Carl never talked me out of anything with you. I just did not have the time or energy at that time to dedicate myself to a solo site. My OMP profile was simply updated because it was changed in February saying i was unable to do shoots at the time... so i changed it back. Any time your name was brought up with Carl, he pushed how you were a good person to work with because of your connections. And that doesn't sound like him talking me out of anything... so where do you figure?

I honestly could care less what you're making, money wise, as long as i'm making my money also. I was never given a figure by Carl, just told that you don't do the kind of percentage deal that he does. I honestly don't see how this was hurting you in any way... My not working with you was MY decision, and had nothing to do with Carl in the slightest. We actually wern't even talking much around that time (once again, because i was TOO busy).

Step down off your soap box for 2 seconds, and possibly come to ME and ask why i didn't end up working with you. Crazy thought huh?

me:
not once have i ever told a girl not to make money... but yes i have told models to be cautious about what they do in this industry. I've never had harsh words about Aaron but you know.. with all his bullshit spewed about me in threads here.. it might be time to start letting people know how he treats others.

"Step down off your soap box for 2 seconds, and possibly come to ME and ask why i didn't end up working with you. Crazy thought huh? "

Gee.....I thought I did that on the 8 or so calls I made to her where she flaked or blew me off..Then there were the emails.

If somebody won't respond to me then how long should I chase them before I just say "fuck it"? She dropped the ball because Carl "warned her" about how the big bad content providers are ripping her off.

Cry me a fucking river.

OH.. and if you wnat more on the drama.... Aaron didn't get enough of bashing me here on gfy he had to go to ICQ to attack me again as well.

AaronM [12:48 AM]:
If you have come to your senses and would like to listen to me for once and make some money....Let me know and I can hook you up with a nice client.

As pissed off as I am over your actions, I still like you and would love to see you do better.
35805493 [2:24 AM]:
i'd appreciate you not flaming me aaron.
35805493 [2:25 AM]:
I popped on... saw your post.. said you're the man and then caught a bunch of shit from you

35805493 [2:25 AM]:
not cool
AaronM [2:25 AM]:
Then stay away from my threads.
35805493 [2:25 AM]:
as far as your post about ?????... you need to read this... you know.. the one in MY FUCKING THREAD

35805493 [2:26 AM]:
or did you bother to read what she posted

35805493 [2:26 AM]:
Aaron, it would GREAT if you could keep my name (and my REAL name to top it off) out of this forum. He would have known exactly who you were talking about, minus my personal information that you made public. I dont appreciate you linking my OMP profile here either.

First off... Carl never talked me out of anything with you. I just did not have the time or energy at that time to dedicate myself to a solo site. My OMP profile was simply updated because it was changed in February saying i was unable to do shoots at the time... so i changed it back. Any time your name was brought up with Carl, he pushed how you were a good person to work with because of your connections. And that doesn't sound like him talking me out of anything... so where do you figure?

I honestly could care less what you're making, money wise, as long as i'm making my money also. I was never given a figure by Carl, just told that you don't do the kind of percentage deal that he does. I honestly don't see how this was hurting you in any way
35805493 [2:26 AM]:
You fucking know her boyfriend was mudered? The dude she was madly in love with.. or does that shit just not matter to you?
35805493 [2:27 AM]:
then you post her real fucking name in the thread... choice and really pro aaron
35805493 [2:27 AM]:
for a guy that maquerades behind a fake name, you should know better....
35805493 [2:27 AM]:
i like you too.. but man... you're being realy fucking petty...

35805493 [2:28 AM]:
It's funny but i kinda remember you doing the same thing to tom.... not sure why
35805493 [2:31 AM]:
go ahead and write your book... wouldn't want you saying anything that wasnt calculated to fuck with me.
AaronM [2:31 AM]:
My real name has been posted there many times. Is Chrome your real name? What's your point there?

As for Ashley....I don't believe for a second that she posted there. If she did and she doesn't see the value of her OMP info being posted on the worlds largest webmaster board then I'm glad it never worked out with her.

You admitted to disclosing bogus info to her, now you want to change that story?

No, I didn't know her man died. Why not? Because she flaked on me so much I stopped my contact with her and she never bothered to call back like she said she would. So how the fuck am I supposed to know these things?


Tom? This is very different frm Tom.
35805493 [2:33 AM]:
then you better fucking wake up... she posted dude... and she wasn't very happy.
35805493 [2:33 AM]:
what the fuck to i benefit by someone not working with you?

35805493 [2:33 AM]:
do
35805493 [2:33 AM]:
who the fuck cares
35805493 [2:33 AM]:
you have this idea that i need to shoot like you.. and follow in your footsteps...
35805493 [2:34 AM]:
I've shot more shit in my life than you can possibly imagine and you give me shit.. wtf.. are you twelve?
AaronM [2:34 AM]:
You care. Do you think Ashley reads GFY? Nope. You showed her the thread if it was really her.

Now, why would you do that if you wern't trying to fuck me over?
35805493 [2:34 AM]:
yes i showed her the fucking thread
35805493 [2:35 AM]:
because you were being a fuck.
AaronM [2:35 AM]:
WTF? You don't need to shoot like me. You need to shoot like you but run your business right.
35805493 [2:35 AM]:
what is my business aaron?
AaronM [2:36 AM]:
Carl, you admitted that you told her things to run her off. Now you pretend that you didn't care.

WTF man?
35805493 [2:36 AM]:
to run her off? wtf.... are you crazy
AaronM [2:36 AM]:
Do you want me to find the thread where you admitted it?
35805493 [2:36 AM]:
I tell these girls to be careful of content shooters... people that take advantage of them.
35805493 [2:36 AM]:
most of them, i've worked with repeatedly before you get your hands on them.
35805493 [2:37 AM]:
if i was so effective at thwarting your plans.. don't you think they would never work with you?
AaronM [2:37 AM]:
And if they were making any money with you then they would never come looking for me.
35805493 [2:37 AM]:
if i was talking shit.. doin't you think they would believe me
AaronM [2:38 AM]:
I'm not saying you talk shit to all of them. I'm saying you talked shit to one of them.
35805493 [2:38 AM]:
do i fucking care? no... and by the way several models have come back at me from after working with you i can only assume you talk shit about me.
35805493 [2:38 AM]:
1. You have never referred a model to me that i've worked with

AaronM [2:38 AM]:
Assume all you want.
35805493 [2:39 AM]:
2. you've never set me up with any solid clients
35805493 [2:39 AM]:
3. you tallk shit about me on gfy
AaronM [2:39 AM]:
LOL
35805493 [2:39 AM]:
4. i can only assume you talk shit about me to models
AaronM [2:39 AM]:
I was hand delivering [name removed] to you on a silver platter and you fucked it off.
35805493 [2:39 AM]:
do you know why i didn't take it?
AaronM [2:39 AM]:
Don't really care.
AaronM [2:40 AM]:
Probably because you're afraid of success.
35805493 [2:40 AM]:
and... who the hell are you to GET ME A JOB AT [name removed]... that's so full of shit... like anyone there would hire me on your recomendation
35805493 [2:40 AM]:
i have arthritis that cripples me sometimes for a solid month.
35805493 [2:40 AM]:
so... yah.. would be kind a difficult to take a mainstream job when i can't fucking walk
35805493 [2:41 AM]:
and to top it off.. that studio was a video shop.
35805493 [2:41 AM]:
and [name removed] shoots some pretty raunchy stuff, unless i'm mistaken.
35805493 [2:42 AM]:
not my cup o tea
35805493 [2:42 AM]:
you on the other hand shoot that all the time.. so why didn't you jump on it
AaronM [2:42 AM]:
Well now....Lets see......I was sitting in the [name removed] living room showing her and her husband your work. They made a phone call and then asked me to get more samples of your work.

Yeah....I'm fuul of shit there.

[link removed] 5th pic down on the left side. Yeah......I'm faking it all.
AaronM [2:43 AM]:
Because I'm nowhere near good enough to shoot that stuff and you are. And [name removed] went softcore over a year ago.
AaronM [2:44 AM]:
6th pic down
35805493 [2:44 AM]:
You rip me apart on that forum.... for no fucking reason.
35805493 [2:44 AM]:
so you got shots of you with some girl
AaronM [2:45 AM]:
Did you or did you not admit that you disclosed information to keep at least one model from working with me?
35805493 [2:46 AM]:
to keep a model from working with you? WTF Aaron.. didn't i just say i don't fucking care if they work with you... I've referred people to you.. including Ashley again. She needed money to go to mexico last week i told her to contact you.
35805493 [2:46 AM]:
you are spreading some vile bullshit on that forum
AaronM [2:46 AM]:
You tool. That girl is the [name removed] and she put my pic on her profile....Not me geting a chance pic with a porn star and trying to look cool by posting it on my front page.

She is a friend who was doing this for me FOR YOU.
35805493 [2:46 AM]:
LMAO
35805493 [2:47 AM]:
are you saying i got a chance pic of someone?
AaronM [2:47 AM]:
One moment...The search tool is calling my name.
35805493 [2:48 AM]:
search tool yells MATT

AaronM [2:49 AM]:
Now when you leave the models alone that i'm working with I won't be forced to disclose facts about an arrangement they would be entering in with you.
AaronM [2:49 AM]:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/newrep...ply&p=10158924
AaronM [2:50 AM]:
Not one single model has ever contacted me and said that you referred them.
35805493 [2:50 AM]:
oh.. you are the only one allowed to push buttons right..
35805493 [2:50 AM]:
well you can believe what you want... lauren worked with you. right?
35805493 [2:50 AM]:
she worked with me before you and yes i actually referred her.
AaronM [2:50 AM]:
No...You can push buttons but you admitted to doing something and now you are denying it.

Make up your fucking mind. Did you lie then or now?
AaronM [2:51 AM]:
[name removed] was referred by [name removed].
35805493 [2:51 AM]:
read it again
35805493 [2:51 AM]:
Now when you leave the models alone that i'm working with I won't be forced to disclose facts about an arrangement they would be entering in with you.

35805493 [2:51 AM]:
that 's future tense pal
35805493 [2:51 AM]:
and yes both tom and i referred her to you

AaronM [2:51 AM]:
I can read it 100 times....In fact, I probably have.

The facts don;t change.
35805493 [2:52 AM]:
the read it some more
35805493 [2:52 AM]:
you through out some full on bull shit before we got to that point
35805493 [2:52 AM]:
but god forbid you admit that you did.
AaronM [2:52 AM]:
If you think I'm this pissed after the first 100 then maybe you should reconsider asking me to read it another 100 times
AaronM [2:52 AM]:
You;re damn right I did.
AaronM [2:53 AM]:
Hold a lot of shit back too.
AaronM [2:53 AM]:
Held
35805493 [2:53 AM]:
read it till you fucking die for all i care.. you spread shit taht i'm lying to models in print is slanderous
35805493 [2:53 AM]:
slander isn't something i take lightly.
AaronM [2:54 AM]:
So sue me. You did it, you know you did it, and I can prove you did it if necessary.

*********@gmail.com

Send him your lawsuit. He'll take care of it for me.
35805493 [2:54 AM]:
did what?

35805493 [2:54 AM]:
explain what i did aaron so i know.
35805493 [2:55 AM]:
talked to a friend about working with you?

35805493 [2:55 AM]:
told her to be careful?
AaronM [2:55 AM]:
Grow up Carl.

This conversation is over.
35805493 [2:55 AM]:
You're such an arrogant piss ant
AaronM [2:57 AM]:
I offered you another client and once again, you piss in my face instead of exploring the options.

Yes, that I am. And do you know why? Because I've earned the right to be.

Cao
35805493 [2:59 AM]:
earned... gimme a break... you earned the right to be what? some super am-porn god? Who the fuck cares? I've spoken with so many people that just tolerate your shit because they want to work without you flaming them like you are doing to me. That's a great reputation to have isn't it? You keep it up.... karma will eventually kick you in the balls.

LOL...Saw that post coming a mile away.

Kinda shocked it took you so long to put it up.

Her boyfriend was mudered and she wasn't quite up to doing anything. As far as models blowing photogs off.. that 's standard procedure. She did it to me repeatedly. Should i assume you were talking shit about me? Good fucking god you are the queen of drama.

[03:07] AaronM: I run a good honest business here. The others who run the same kind of business as I do have nothing to worry about. Those who try to fuck with my business will be treated accordingly. If people play nice with me then I tend to play nice with them.

That's how the world works. The only reason those people don't want me attacking them is because they, just like you, know that when I tell the real story, people will listen to me. And that scares the shit out of them.

I wonder why that is?
[03:12] Chrome: the people i'm talking about are all really tight and upstanding. they've seen you pull this shit on others for no reason.
[03:12] AaronM: LOL...And once again you show that personal conversations are always public with you. Then you wonder why i never did busines with you.

Too funny.

Now run and go post that too.
[03:14] Chrome: lmao

Oops. I think you missed a few of those. How dare you post her real name on GFY after riding my ass for doing the same.

Fucking hypocrite

heeeheh kids