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  • dunefield
    www.barely18movies.com
    • Feb 2003
    • 10920

    #1

    Who is GFY's biggest scammer/fraud?

    Commence drama...
  • Mr. Soul
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2005
    • 1633

    #2
    The company 12clicks works for and owns a tiny part of has probably stolen the most money from affiliates in total. They've owned at least a dozen of those fly by night ppc programs that start by paying about 30% of their affiliates (board personalities and American webmasters), and then shut down all together. They just change domains and designs and start over again. His company is basically the reason no one in adult trusts the PPC model.

    A funny thread would be to ask people to try to name all of the pay per click programs that Standard Internet has opened and shut down.


    I wonder if 12clicks has the balls to name them all?

    Of course he doesn't. All he has the "balls" to do is throw around childish insults and post laughing faces after them, as if he thinks the laughing faces will trick people into thinking he's funny.

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    • p1mpdogg
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Nov 2002
      • 16714

      #3
      Originally posted by Mr. Soul
      The company 12clicks works for and owns a tiny part of has probably stolen the most money from affiliates in total. They've owned at least a dozen of those fly by night ppc programs that start by paying about 30% of their affiliates (board personalities and American webmasters), and then shut down all together. They just change domains and designs and start over again. His company is basically the reason no one in adult trusts the PPC model.

      A funny thread would be to ask people to try to name all of the pay per click programs that Standard Internet has opened and shut down.


      I wonder if 12clicks has the balls to name them all?

      Of course he doesn't. All he has the "balls" to do is throw around childish insults and post laughing faces after them, as if he thinks the laughing faces will trick people into thinking he's funny.
      awsome post

      and he wants to start running paysites?

      god help us all.

      another slap in the face to the adult industry
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      • polish_aristocrat
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        • Jul 2002
        • 40377

        #4
        Originally posted by Mr. Soul
        . All he has the "balls" to do is throw around childish insults and post laughing faces after them, as if he thinks the laughing faces will trick people into thinking he's funny.
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        • Barefootsies
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          • Feb 2005
          • 42635

          #5
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          • ~Ray
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            • Jun 2003
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            #6
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            • Axzar
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              • Feb 2003
              • 1837

              #7
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              • Doctor Dre
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2001
                • 51692

                #8
                Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                The company 12clicks works for and owns a tiny part of has probably stolen the most money from affiliates in total. They've owned at least a dozen of those fly by night ppc programs that start by paying about 30% of their affiliates (board personalities and American webmasters), and then shut down all together. They just change domains and designs and start over again. His company is basically the reason no one in adult trusts the PPC model.

                A funny thread would be to ask people to try to name all of the pay per click programs that Standard Internet has opened and shut down.


                I wonder if 12clicks has the balls to name them all?

                Of course he doesn't. All he has the "balls" to do is throw around childish insults and post laughing faces after them, as if he thinks the laughing faces will trick people into thinking he's funny.
                First time I heard about that



                The Serge Oprano traffic selling was a big fraud... not toward webmasters but toward surfers... hundread of millions got robbed.
                Originally posted by rayadp05
                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                  #9
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                  • 12clicks
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 19813

                    #10
                    Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                    awsome post

                    and he wants to start running paysites?

                    god help us all.

                    another slap in the face to the adult industry
                    scrimpdog, always so insecure. I'm not even back yet and already you're worried.
                    typical.
                    As one of the strongest operators to ever grace this business, you should be sucking up to me, not siding with some loser who's on his second, third or forth nick here.

                    but then, you wouldn't be scrimpdog if you acted intelligently.
                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                    • 12clicks
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 19813

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                      The company 12clicks works for and owns a tiny part of has probably stolen the most money from affiliates in total. They've owned at least a dozen of those fly by night ppc programs that start by paying about 30% of their affiliates (board personalities and American webmasters), and then shut down all together. They just change domains and designs and start over again. His company is basically the reason no one in adult trusts the PPC model.

                      A funny thread would be to ask people to try to name all of the pay per click programs that Standard Internet has opened and shut down.


                      I wonder if 12clicks has the balls to name them all?

                      Of course he doesn't. All he has the "balls" to do is throw around childish insults and post laughing faces after them, as if he thinks the laughing faces will trick people into thinking he's funny.
                      Dude, when are you going to admit which cheater you were before you came up with your new name?


                      Here's two programs we ran and then shut down:
                      rawlikesushi.com
                      blindlinks.com

                      I'm fairly certain we are the only perclick adult company to pay its webmasters in full before shutting it down. We gave over a months head's up.
                      Probably the reason my only detractors are former thieves (with new usernames) and weak future competition.

                      ah, I'm going to love coming back!
                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                      • Mr. Soul
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 1633

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                        scrimpdog, always so insecure. I'm not even back yet and already you're worried.
                        typical.
                        As one of the strongest operators to ever grace this business, you should be sucking up to me, not siding with some loser who's on his second, third or forth nick here.

                        but then, you wouldn't be scrimpdog if you acted intelligently.


                        Name your old programs then, 12scams.

                        Or, do you want everyone to forget about who ripped them off and then had to leave the adult business when the scamming got to bad? Probably 95% of the people on this board have no idea the company you work for was behind scams like rawlikesushi.com and blindclicks.com. The list goes on.

                        lol, it's funny that you think acting like a big shot on a message board will make people forget about your scams so you can come back into adult and rip people off one more time. Not going to happen. Once a scammer always a scammer, everyone realizes that.

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                        • FreeHugeMovies
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                          • Dec 2001
                          • 14141

                          #13
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                          • Mr. Soul
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 1633

                            #14
                            name them all 12scams, name them all. We'd love to see a list of all of your "legit" programs.

                            Oh, and by the way, in order to pay webmasters before shutting down you have to have been paying them in the first place. Even the ones outside the US, for programs in which they were allowed. I know you guys tend to forget that.

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                            • polle54
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 4626

                              #15
                              LOL

                              this could turn into a nice little drama

                              this 12clicks clown seems like a fun guy with a severe scam history
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                              • 12clicks
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 19813

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                                Name your old programs then, 12scams.

                                Or, do you want everyone to forget about who ripped them off and then had to leave the adult business when the scamming got to bad? Probably 95% of the people on this board have no idea the company you work for was behind scams like rawlikesushi.com and blindclicks.com. The list goes on.

                                lol, it's funny that you think acting like a big shot on a message board will make people forget about your scams so you can come back into adult and rip people off one more time. Not going to happen. Once a scammer always a scammer, everyone realizes that.
                                I'll bet this username doesn't last you as long as your last one did, thief.
                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                • The Adult Broker
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 5265

                                  #17
                                  Sounds like there is longer history in here than with my last few boyfriends. LOL

                                  Who is right, who is wrong, Who did what to whom and when seems to be the norm in this industry. I learn something new all the time.

                                  But 12clicks did give up his seat in a limo for me once, so not sure about all the business stuff, but that was a gentlemen's move nonetheless.

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                                  • pr0
                                    rockin tha trailerpark
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 23088

                                    #18
                                    All these people busting balls here have 0 clue.

                                    I used 12clicks programs back in the day, & always got my checks....

                                    i was friends with his employees....no one had anything but good things to say about em, even out of the office/at a strip club, or just out having dinner

                                    12clicks is one smart hombre'......& all the haters are just jealous, or scurrrred.

                                    p.s. he's never fucked anyone over that didn't have it comin' to em
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                                    • Doctor Dre
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                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 51692

                                      #19
                                      I remember not getting paid by clickheretofind. was a small check thought.

                                      Only program I never got my paycheck from
                                      Last edited by Doctor Dre; 07-06-2006, 10:54 AM.
                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                      • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 5133

                                        #20
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                                        • 12clicks
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 19813

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by polle54
                                          LOL

                                          this could turn into a nice little drama

                                          this 12clicks clown seems like a fun guy with a severe scam history
                                          said the clown pushing fake pills.
                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                          • 12clicks
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 19813

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                            I remember not getting paid by clickheretofind. was a small check thought.

                                            Only program I never got my paycheck from
                                            yeah, that whole "no adult websites aloowed thing" was a problem.
                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                            • Mr. Soul
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2005
                                              • 1633

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pr0
                                              All these people busting balls here have 0 clue.

                                              I used 12clicks programs back in the day, & always got my checks....

                                              i was friends with his employees....no one had anything but good things to say about em, even out of the office/at a strip club, or just out having dinner

                                              12clicks is one smart hombre'......& all the haters are just jealous, or scurrrred.

                                              p.s. he's never fucked anyone over that didn't have it comin' to em

                                              How hard is it for people like you to understand? Are you simple or just willfully ignorant?

                                              He paid friends, big American accounts, other affiliate programs, and people he knew to be board personalities. He didn't pay small time guys and mid size accounts from outside the US.

                                              I laugh every time I read someone post "he paid me so that means he's a great guy". That's just like when people say "he bought me a drink at a convention, he's legit".

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                                              • TheLegacy
                                                SEO RobertWarrenSEO.com
                                                • Apr 2003
                                                • 18102

                                                #24
                                                12clicks has been around a long time - if you are so certain that he doesn't operate a legitimate business (which I feel he does) then do a simple search of threads and see what dirt you can pull up on him as proof of your claims.

                                                I talk to many webmasters as well and they only have good things to say about him.

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                                                • tranza
                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 57559

                                                  #25
                                                  12clicks is the biggest scammer of all, everybody over here who's been around for more than 3 years knows that.

                                                  I'm still waiting for my check from him.

                                                  Do a search on GFY and you'll find tons of examples, not only about missing checks/payments but also about spyware shit.
                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                  • gregtx
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 1929

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by pr0
                                                    All these people busting balls here have 0 clue.

                                                    I used 12clicks programs back in the day, & always got my checks....

                                                    i was friends with his employees....no one had anything but good things to say about em, even out of the office/at a strip club, or just out having dinner

                                                    12clicks is one smart hombre'......& all the haters are just jealous, or scurrrred.

                                                    p.s. he's never fucked anyone over that didn't have it comin' to em
                                                    well said...

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                                                    • J$tyle$
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 11500

                                                      #27
                                                      Everyone ganging up on poor 12clicks - ahaha



                                                      RawLikeSushi and Ron have both made me sick and throw up at times, but overall I love the guy!

                                                      At a time he could have put himself in the middle of a deal generating 50 - 60k per month net, net net - he just said "here, call these guys!" and didn't take a fuckin' dime for hooking it up!

                                                      As far as i know personally, in almost 10 years working the adult web - this cock smoker is STRAIGHT UP when it comes to his biz ... and don't take no shit from scammers and thieves!

                                                      I say this thread goes 5 pages today, what's the over and under?

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                                                      • MrIzzz
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                                                        • Sep 2003
                                                        • 22923

                                                        #28
                                                        theres been a bunch of them, but for me it was Fast Adult Traffic


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                                                        • 12clicks
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 19813

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                                                          name them all 12scams, name them all. We'd love to see a list of all of your "legit" programs.

                                                          Oh, and by the way, in order to pay webmasters before shutting down you have to have been paying them in the first place. Even the ones outside the US, for programs in which they were allowed. I know you guys tend to forget that.
                                                          hahahaha, sorry scammer.
                                                          what's it like to have to change names every 6 months because your cheating catches up with you?
                                                          son, there's no credibility here for people like you.
                                                          but thanks for the thread. I gotta get my name out their with the new guys.
                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                          • Jman
                                                            Already an AI veteran
                                                            • Sep 2003
                                                            • 22838

                                                            #30
                                                            Hey assclown, do you have ANY proof of what you are saying.

                                                            I been paid by Ron with is old programs in the past and never lost any money.

                                                            I can name a few i lost money with or who got caught and proven guilty but as per Ron he's a great guy in my book over all and I miss his bear hugs

                                                            Now let's talk about you... WHO ARE YOU? What Industry Background do you have ?

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                                                            • Mayor
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 497

                                                              #31
                                                              12clicks paid everyone who didn't cheat him, period. There were numerous posts about it on PC back in the day and they were always very funny. It would start with some asshat claiming he was ripped off and end with that same guy being put down with proof. Same thing Lensman had to do all the time.

                                                              12clicks and the boys who work with him made a lot and I mean a LOT of affiliates very very weathly in mainstram and adult. I would love to see those days return. I know I cashed more than a few of 12click's checks and use that money to pay for my $100,000 per month bandwidth bill and still have enough left over to play

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                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 19813

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by tranza
                                                                12clicks is the biggest scammer of all, everybody over here who's been around for more than 3 years knows that.

                                                                I'm still waiting for my check from him.
                                                                Tranza, I've told you in countless threads, once you learn your mother's address, we'll see about paying you but I'm not mailing a 4th check for 23 bucks to a south American address that doesn't exist.
                                                                you know what, just to be safe, have your mom mail me the address.

                                                                Originally posted by tranza
                                                                Do a search on GFY and you'll find tons of examples, not only about missing checks/payments but also about spyware shit.
                                                                no you won't.
                                                                you'll find the odd tranza and mrs. soul post. thats about it.
                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                • Mr. Soul
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                  • 1633

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                  hahahaha, sorry scammer.
                                                                  what's it like to have to change names every 6 months because your cheating catches up with you?
                                                                  son, there's no credibility here for people like you.
                                                                  but thanks for the thread. I gotta get my name out their with the new guys.



                                                                  Yeah just repeat the same lie over and over again, that's about all someone can do when they know they've got no real answer.

                                                                  What a coincidence that every time scamming is mentioned on any adult webmaster board, 12clicks/standard internet are always the number 1 topic of discussion. Even 3+ years after they had to run away from adult.

                                                                  I guess that's because 12clicks is so "tough on scammers", so everyone who reminds people of his scamming must be a scammer. Just like how George Bush is so "tough on terror" that anyone who opposes him must be a "terrorist sympathizer".

                                                                  The day 12click's programs are mentioned on a message board and there aren't at least 2-3 reputable people asking for their 3 year old checks, I'll agree that 12clicks didn't rip anyone off. Of course you'll probably have to thaw out my long dead body when that happens, because people are never going to forget one of the worst scamming companies in the history of this business.

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                                                                  • Shocking
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                                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                                    • 523

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i just got in to another GFY drama. keep going guys keep going
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                                                                    • Mr. Soul
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                      • 1633

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                      Only program I never got my paycheck from

                                                                      Originally posted by tranza
                                                                      I'm still waiting for my check from him.


                                                                      Amazing that you don't hear things like this EVERY TIME Lensman's programs are brought up.

                                                                      12clicks must just have bad luck.

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                                                                      • CDSmith
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 51460

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Being in Canada and all, I'd say I qualify as a non-american foreigner. 12clicks is known to take shots at Canada and Canadians but I can honestly say with 100% certainty that any cheques I had coming tome from any of his programs I've premoted has been paid to me in full.

                                                                        I've been in this business since early '98 and have come to know that it is always those who couldn't follow his rules to the letter that come on here complaining he "fucked them over". Scammers themselves hate 12clicks.
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                                                                        • 12clicks
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 19813

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                                                                          Yeah just repeat the same lie over and over again, that's about all someone can do when they know they've got no real answer.

                                                                          What a coincidence that every time scamming is mentioned on any adult webmaster board, 12clicks/standard internet are always the number 1 topic of discussion. Even 3+ years after they had to run away from adult.

                                                                          I guess that's because 12clicks is so "tough on scammers", so everyone who reminds people of his scamming must be a scammer. Just like how George Bush is so "tough on terror" that anyone who opposes him must be a "terrorist sympathizer".

                                                                          The day 12click's programs are mentioned on a message board and there aren't at least 2-3 reputable people asking for their 3 year old checks, I'll agree that 12clicks didn't rip anyone off. Of course you'll probably have to thaw out my long dead body when that happens, because people are never going to forget one of the worst scamming companies in the history of this business.
                                                                          you're a little confused by the meaning of reputable, aren't you little fella?
                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                          • tranza
                                                                            ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                            • 57559

                                                                            #38
                                                                            How about this, I've been working in this industry for 6 years now, you can ask ANY sponsor accross the board what they think of me if you doubt my integrity.

                                                                            I used to run search boxes for Mojosearch (not sure if that was the name, but it was 12clicks's). 3 months after I hit the minimum payment, and I was still sending them traffic, I hadn't received my check yet. I e-mailed them and they said thy were going to send the check. A month later I still haven't received the check and I e-mailed them again and they told me something looked fishy with my home address so they hadn't sent the check. I told them everything was correct, so they told me they were going to send the check. One month after that I e-mailed them again and they told me they didn't want my traffic no more since I was trying to scam them for multiples checks.

                                                                            I never got 1 single cent of at least 6 months worth of SE trafic. That was the first time someone fucked me over in this industry.

                                                                            I found GFY and posted a thread asking around and pretty much all the response I got was that 12clicks was a scammer and he never paid webmasters, specially if they didn't live in the US since it was easier for him to get away with it.

                                                                            He IS a fucking scammer, and HE knows it.

                                                                            Why don't you tell us about your spyware shit, mr scammer?
                                                                            I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                            • CaptainHowdy
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                              • 94744

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Mayor
                                                                              12clicks paid everyone who didn't cheat him, period. There were numerous posts about it on PC back in the day and they were always very funny. It would start with some asshat claiming he was ripped off and end with that same guy being put down with proof. Same thing Lensman had to do all the time.

                                                                              12clicks and the boys who work with him made a lot and I mean a LOT of affiliates very very weathly in mainstram and adult. I would love to see those days return. I know I cashed more than a few of 12click's checks and use that money to pay for my $100,000 per month bandwidth bill and still have enough left over to play
                                                                              Dayummm !!

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                                                                              • BradShaw
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                • 7840

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I made big $ back in the day off the old 12 clicks programs. You whinny idiots fail to realize that you needed traffic to make $. The only ones who did not get checks were the scammers, of which there are plenty.
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                                                                                • tranza
                                                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                  • 57559

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                  Tranza, I've told you in countless threads, once you learn your mother's address, we'll see about paying you but I'm not mailing a 4th check for 23 bucks to a south American address that doesn't exist.
                                                                                  you know what, just to be safe, have your mom mail me the address.


                                                                                  no you won't.
                                                                                  you'll find the odd tranza and mrs. soul post. thats about it.
                                                                                  Typical bullshit response. And you guys say that he's professional?

                                                                                  Come on now...

                                                                                  Let me see if I can dig up those threads...
                                                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                  • XPays
                                                                                    Team Player
                                                                                    • May 2004
                                                                                    • 13002

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    gfy's biggest scammer (it's all relative of course) is: Curioustoyboy lindsey.
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                                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 19813

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                                                                                      Amazing that you don't hear things like this EVERY TIME Lensman's programs are brought up.

                                                                                      12clicks must just have bad luck.
                                                                                      son, when you had the entire adult internet in your programs, you got the good with the bad.
                                                                                      There wasn't any way to keep scammers like yourself out of the programs. I could only kick you out once I caught you cheating.
                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                      • Mr. Soul
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jul 2005
                                                                                        • 1633

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                        Being in Canada and all, I'd say I qualify as a non-american foreigner. 12clicks is known to take shots at Canada and Canadians but I can honestly say with 100% certainty that any cheques I had coming tome from any of his programs I've premoted has been paid to me in full.

                                                                                        I've been in this business since early '98 and have come to know that it is always those who couldn't follow his rules to the letter that come on here complaining he "fucked them over". Scammers themselves hate 12clicks.


                                                                                        Try moving to Brazil.

                                                                                        Actually, maybe it is possible that 12clicks was just too stupid to address envelopes to foreign countries.

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                                                                                        • s9ann0
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                                          • 4873

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          12clicks and standard internet paid me for years on vaiours non-adult and adult stuff so I don't think they are scammers

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                                                                                          • CDSmith
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • May 2001
                                                                                            • 51460

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                                                                                            Try moving to Brazil.

                                                                                            Actually, maybe it is possible that 12clicks was just too stupid to address envelopes to foreign countries.
                                                                                            You do realize your credibility goes way way down due to the fact that you are obviously someone who has been around for quite a while who is hiding his old/true identity behind an anon nick, don't you? Your motives for this attack are suspect from the get-go, because I'm again sitting here wondering why you are afraid to let everyone know who you are, or what your old nicknames were.

                                                                                            I'm not attacking you, I'm just letting you know.

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                                                                                            • Mr. Soul
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                              • 1633

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                              son, when you had the entire adult internet in your programs, you got the good with the bad.
                                                                                              There wasn't any way to keep scammers like yourself out of the programs. I could only kick you out once I caught you cheating.

                                                                                              Actually I promoted Lensman, not you. I've never been cancelled in my life. Nice lie though.

                                                                                              I just plain don't like you. Or any scammer.

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                                                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                • 19813

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                                Typical bullshit response. And you guys say that he's professional?

                                                                                                Come on now...

                                                                                                Let me see if I can dig up those threads...
                                                                                                dude, professional would be not working from your mom's house. professional would be knowing your mom's address if you did work from there.
                                                                                                professional would be having the ability to make more than 25 bucks in a blind link program.
                                                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                  • 19813

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                                                                                                  Actually I promoted Lensman, not you. I've never been cancelled in my life. Nice lie though.

                                                                                                  I just plain don't like you. Or any scammer.
                                                                                                  well if you're so innocent, what name did you used to go by?
                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                  • Mr. Soul
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                                                                    • 1633

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                    well if you're so innocent, what name did you used to go by?


                                                                                                    I've never had a different nickname. I've never posted much on message boards.

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