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10-25-2002, 11:08 AM

Ya know, it's pretty funny the amount of hypocrites here. I have seen plenty of threads over the last year where someone gets mad at someone for something and then someone says "img src the fucker till he cries" and everyone else goes "fuck yeah!".
The Hun gets pissed at someone and does an img src attack on them and they redirect it to GFY and now he is the bad guy?
Jeez..

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10-25-2002, 11:09 AM

Sleazy that logic fails quite easily.

Using the same initial statement replace "thehun" with "drawnsex." The minute drawnsex owns the traffic, he/she/them can do exactly what thehun did to him to anyone else.

In fact, I would say since drawnsex makes his/her/their money from traffic redirection, they have a war chest of tools to deal with different DOS attacks.

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10-25-2002, 11:12 AM

Fucking bullshit.
Hun lists RAPE sometime as payed ads.
Saw myself. Some kind of holland rape. No partnership program. Just a paysite or a shop, I dont remember, but makes me wonder who owns it, since You dont see it anywhere else.

Even wrote an email about it I think.

Anyway, the point is:
image sourcing is illegal. Basicly the guy from drawnsex.com may sue You and would be right.

The way You take galleries and the way You cant enforce Your rules on them LEGALLY is just Your business model, therefore Your problem.

Point is , he doesnt break any laws and You do.
You got a problem Hun.
And there is no way out. Cant make it legally - dont run a TGP.

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10-25-2002, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Incognito
Fucking bullshit.
Hun lists RAPE sometime as payed ads.
Saw myself. Some kind of holland rape. No partnership program. Just a paysite or a shop, I dont remember, but makes me wonder who owns it, since You dont see it anywhere else.

Even wrote an email about it I think.

Anyway, the point is:
image sourcing is illegal. Basicly the guy from drawnsex.com may sue You and would be right.

The way You take galleries and the way You cant enforce Your rules on them LEGALLY is just Your business model, therefore Your problem.

Point is , he doesnt break any laws and You do.
You got a problem Hun.
And there is no way out. Cant make it legally - dont run a TGP.

that must be some good crack you're smoking there.............

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10-25-2002, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

that must be some good crack you're smoking there.............

im just curious as to why beast is ok but not rape

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10-25-2002, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by toodamnfli

im just curious as to why beast is ok but not rape

animals are property.... women are not.

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10-25-2002, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by toodamnfli

im just curious as to why beast is ok but not rape

Rape sites are legal too, that's what is weird.

I don't agree with it, but Rape and Incest sites are both legal. I wrote an AVS Site asking why so many "Oral With Daughter" sites were in the link list, reply was, its legal and we allow it.

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10-25-2002, 11:23 AM

Let me get this straight..

It's OK for the Hun to launch a DDoS attack against someone who he feels cheated him?

Nothing can physically stop him from doing it. Yet everyone here supports the hun and pats him on the back. Nobody disapproves?

I happen to know where I can get 80 MILLION daily hits, should I start attacking everyone that tries to cheat us?

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10-25-2002, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by KC

I happen to know where I can get 80 MILLION daily hits, should I start attacking everyone that tries to cheat us?

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10-25-2002, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by KC

I happen to know where I can get 80 MILLION daily hits, should I start attacking everyone that tries to cheat us?

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10-25-2002, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Incognito
Fucking bullshit.

Point is , he doesnt break any laws and You do.
You got a problem Hun.
And there is no way out. Cant make it legally - dont run a TGP.

By this logic then it's illegial to shoot someone who you catch raping and murdering your children.

TheHun needs to defend his site from THEIVES and has EVERY right to do so. If he img srced someone who hadn't STOLEN from him FIRST then he'd be doing something illegial.

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10-25-2002, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

By this logic then it's illegial to shoot someone who you catch raping and murdering your children.

It is.

And its also very ignorant to compare a gallery crook to a rapist.

Ridiculous.

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10-25-2002, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

By this logic then it's illegial to shoot someone who you catch raping and murdering your children.

TheHun needs to defend his site from THEIVES and has EVERY right to do so. If he img srced someone who hadn't STOLEN from him FIRST then he'd be doing something illegial.

There is nothing illegal about submitting galleries that redirect and/or pop consoles and dialers. Your metaphor is flawed.

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10-25-2002, 11:30 AM

My Bot is catching his new submissions that are still coming in this very moment. This person really doesn't want to listen. The e-mail addresses he submits with are all Russian. Anyway, here's a few of the galleries he's submitting. Maybe they can be of help of a really bored person that wants play around with his servers in another way I did:

9.17 pm now here
8:25 pm: http://www.sexyvulcan.com/70/17g.html (from [email protected])
6:50 pm: http://www.adultrahost.com/g020/10g.html (from [email protected])
5:03 pm: http://www.cutebabyblue.com/h34/34gal.html (from [email protected])
3:56 pm: http://www.free-ebony-pussy.net/2510/gallery.html (from [email protected])
3:11 pm: http://www.vvorldsex.com/1025g/t16.html (from [email protected])

There's 2 or 3 others submitted on the easy-dialer server. This is where drawnsex is sending traffic, so I suspect the two to be the same. Maybe it IS time to start mass-loading the dialer straight from easy-dialer.com. They didn't reply to any of my e-mails... if anybody is in contact with 'em, let 'em know I'm seeking urgent contact with 'em. If they don't react... well... we'll see what happens.
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10-25-2002, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

animals are property.... women are not.

interesting logic..thanx AMP

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10-25-2002, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

By this logic then it's illegial to shoot someone who you catch raping and murdering your children.

TheHun needs to defend his site from THEIVES and has EVERY right to do so. If he img srced someone who hadn't STOLEN from him FIRST then he'd be doing something illegial.

Whatever this guy did to the hun was the same as Raping and Murdering children?

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10-25-2002, 11:31 AM

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10-25-2002, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by toodamnfli

interesting logic..thanx AMP

sorry, but it's true... I didn't create the world, I just live in it.

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#119

10-25-2002, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by FATPad

There is nothing illegal about submitting galleries that redirect and/or pop consoles and dialers. Your metaphor is flawed.

it violates the Hun's TOS - which you agree to when you submit a gallery to his site.

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10-25-2002, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Hooterdog
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and everything right

such a true statement

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10-25-2002, 11:33 AM

Hun,
I am sorry to interrupt you, but can you do me a favor?

Can you please image source ebay for me? I bought something off ebay, and i never got it!!!

thanks in advance

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10-25-2002, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by KC

Whatever this guy did to the hun was the same as Raping and Murdering children?

yes it was - thehun.net is his baby

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10-25-2002, 11:35 AM

Fletchxxx--

It is legal because it is all considered fantasy. This has played out before in the MaxHardcore issues that people have.

Porn is fantasy. Although distrubing, people have incest and rape fantasies.

I do not think they are actually raping these women, just as I do no think tranny trick fools guys into fucking transsexuals.

If thehun doesn't want to post that stuff cool, that is his choice, but it doesn't mean it is illegal in all places. Also, Fletch is rightn a lot of BIG avs' accept incest sites.

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No, I agree with you.

Thehun is not only attacking the server where he "thinks" drawn sex, he is also attack that network. He is also assuming a certain level of technical expertise on drawn sex's behalf. As seen today, drawn sex was able to divert the attack to a msg board. Luckily, it was a board with excellent technical people.

I think this is symptomatic of the adult industry, being a larger company or feeling you are larger doesn't give you the right to inflict damage and apologize later.

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10-25-2002, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

yes it was - thehun.net is his baby

You been eating at McCrackhouse again?

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10-25-2002, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by toodamnfli

im just curious as to why beast is ok but not rape

How about animal rape? I think I may be on to something here...

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10-25-2002, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by <IMX>

I think this is symptomatic of the adult industry, being a larger company or feeling you are larger doesn't give you the right to inflict damage and apologize later.

so what rights DO sites have against THEIVES?

If thehun had to wait for a court case the hun would loose all his traffic in the mean time due to this bullshit. The HUN has EVERY RIGHT to go after these little fuckheads and SQUISH them in any way he can. Thehun goes to extrodonairy steps to HELP little guys too so it's not like he's trying to stop little people from making it in this business.

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10-25-2002, 11:39 AM

Again, img srcing is a last resort...

The solution for the Iraq problem shouldn't be bombs either. Talking should be the solution, politics, things like that. Ok, that's been tried. So bombs are the last resort the US can fall back to. Might not be the perfect comparison, 'cause we're not talking life and death in regard to my page, but still... I don't think the two topics are that far apart...
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10-25-2002, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by FATPad
You been eating at McCrackhouse again?

That's how he starts his day!! ;)

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10-25-2002, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Turboface

How about animal rape? I think I may be on to something here...

if the animal signs a release form with his paw or hoof its ok right?

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10-25-2002, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

it violates the Hun's TOS - which you agree to when you submit a gallery to his site.

Yep, and The Hun in return gets to delete his submission, delete all his old submissions, and even blacklist him.

What you're suggesting is something similar to Lensman driving to people's houses and breaking their kneecaps because their signature is too big.

Having your TGP's submission rules broken doesn't somehow give you the right to act in an illegal manner. Or are you going to start killing people who submit bad galleries next?

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10-25-2002, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

so what rights DO sites have against THEIVES?

If thehun had to wait for a court case the hun would loose all his traffic in the mean time due to this bullshit. The HUN has EVERY RIGHT to go after these little fuckheads and SQUISH them in any way he can. Thehun goes to extrodonairy steps to HELP little guys too so it's not like he's trying to stop little people from making it in this business.

wow..lets do soemthing illegal instead of letting the law take its course and leting them handle it...great! Back to crack selling I go!

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10-25-2002, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Turboface

How about animal rape? I think I may be on to something here...

although I don't agree with thehun on this point, ( I dont' like any beast stuff) he has stated that he only posts beast pics where the animal is humping a human - not the reverse. In a way it's more like the dog is the rapist?? - the dogs usually look happy...

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10-25-2002, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by <IMX>

I think this is symptomatic of the adult industry, being a larger company or feeling you are larger doesn't give you the right to inflict damage and apologize later.

Like I said before, I TRIED reasoning with the guy NUMEROUS times before. He ignores my emails and completely disrespects any of my set rules on my own page.
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10-25-2002, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by toodamnfli

if the animal signs a release form with his paw or hoof its ok right?

see.... this argument has been hashed to death here....
animals don't need to sign a release form. Animals are property. Period. If you wanna stick your dick in your property, by all means.... have at it. You no more need a release form from your prize winning cow than you do from your vacuum cleaner.

However.... if you wanna screw someone else's cow... you DO need the owner's permission to fuck their property. Otherwise it's illegal. SO, you can't just hop a fence onto farmer bob's horse ranch and have your pick.... you gotta clear it with farmer bob first.

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10-25-2002, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by FATPad
Yep, and The Hun in return gets to delete his submission, delete all his old submissions, and even blacklist him.

What you're suggesting is something similar to Lensman driving to people's houses and breaking their kneecaps because their signature is too big.

Having your TGP's submission rules broken doesn't somehow give you the right to act in an illegal manner. Or are you going to start killing people who submit bad galleries next?

he does this, but what's the option if you get someone who KEEPS trying to break the rules? Why should the hun have to waste all his day dealing with these theives?

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10-25-2002, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by FATPad
What you're suggesting is something similar to Lensman driving to people's houses and breaking their kneecaps because their signature is too big.

so Lensman did it

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10-25-2002, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by The Hun

Like I said before, I TRIED reasoning with the guy NUMEROUS times before. He ignores my emails and completely disrespects any of my set rules on my own page.

What damage is this guy causing? What would happen if you did nothing but deny his submission requests?

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10-25-2002, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

he does this, but what's the option if you get someone who KEEPS trying to break the rules? Why should the hun have to waste all his day dealing with these theives?

Life sucks when you run a TGP.

Close submissions to the public. No more problem.

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10-25-2002, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by toodamnfli

wow..lets do soemthing illegal instead of letting the law take its course and leting them handle it...great! Back to crack selling I go!

So if someone grabs you and threatens to beat the crap out of you if you don't give them your wallet and you realize that you're 10X stronger than the THEIF and you beat the crap out of the theif then you just did something illegial??

EVER HEARD of SELF DEFENSE? Techinically it was illegial - will you get convicted? - not a chance in hell.

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10-25-2002, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

see.... this argument has been hashed to death here....
animals don't need to sign a release form. Animals are property. Period. If you wanna stick your dick in your property, by all means.... have at it. You no more need a release form from your prize winning cow than you do from your vacuum cleaner.

However.... if you wanna screw someone else's cow... you DO need the owner's permission to fuck their property. Otherwise it's illegal. SO, you can't just hop a fence onto farmer bob's horse ranch and have your pick.... you gotta clear it with farmer bob first.

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10-25-2002, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by FATPad

Life sucks when you run a TGP.

Close submissions to the public. No more problem.

to be honest I TOTALLY agree with this.

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10-25-2002, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

see.... this argument has been hashed to death here....
animals don't need to sign a release form. Animals are property. Period. If you wanna stick your dick in your property, by all means.... have at it. You no more need a release form from your prize winning cow than you do from your vacuum cleaner.

However.... if you wanna screw someone else's cow... you DO need the owner's permission to fuck their property. Otherwise it's illegal. SO, you can't just hop a fence onto farmer bob's horse ranch and have your pick.... you gotta clear it with farmer bob first.

well if I order a mailorder bride from russia thats considered my property correct? I guess the real question is what is considered property and also since it is considered my property why will i be arrested for the molestation of humping a farm animal?

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10-25-2002, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by FATPad

Life sucks when you run a TGP.

Close submissions to the public. No more problem.

I agree completely.

If you accept submissions, you're going to have to deal with people that will violate rules. It goes with the territory!!!

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10-25-2002, 11:49 AM

I see Patrick is up to his usual "tricks"..

Do you know that under the Patriot act, this could be considered an act of terrorism?

You say you thought long and hard about it (breaking the law)

You say it's not your fault (that you're breaking the law)

How about this buddy: Stop fucking breaking the law. I'm sorry one of your submitters is annoying your surfers. Free porn annoys me, does that give me the right to hunt down and kill everyone that gives away free porn?

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10-25-2002, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

so what rights DO sites have against THEIVES?

If thehun had to wait for a court case the hun would loose all his traffic in the mean time due to this bullshit. The HUN has EVERY RIGHT to go after these little fuckheads and SQUISH them in any way he can. Thehun goes to extrodonairy steps to HELP little guys too so it's not like he's trying to stop little people from making it in this business.

I fuckin agree!!

Don't people think that if the cheaters were cut down (impossible to cut out completely) that sales would be better? Surfers wouldn't be so scared to hit sponsor links for one. The surfer would check out a site and see if they like it or not. Rather than have some dialer loading onto their computer dialing into buttfucknowhere at $5 per minute.

Plus, I for one feel thehun and other bigger traffic areas do and are willing to help out small/little guys.

I have a link site with some traffic and I list sites all the time sending my traffic. When someone changes and cheats, I'd fuckin kill them if I could because that person might have just made a new surfer NOT bookmark my site. And my site needs bookmarkers since it doesn't get anywhere 1M in hits.

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#146

10-25-2002, 11:52 AM

Like I said before, I TRIED reasoning with the guy NUMEROUS times before. He ignores my emails and completely disrespects any of my set rules on my own page.

TheHun--
Sorry, I sympathise with your situation. It is unfortunate that you can not figure out a way to stop this group of webmasters from cheating you and breaking your TOS. But, they are only your TOS, they are not breaking the law, by violating your rules. You have the right to kick them out of your club house, and the right not to let them play with your ball.

You have to eat it like everyone else does. The second you engage in a DOS attack, you lose my sympathy.

First the attack is illegal, second even if you are able to skirt the issue of legality due to the juridictions, the attack has many externalities that you simply can not control, no matter what your overall intentions are. DrawnSex, was evidently already prepared for your attacks, but luckily did not send the traffic to any location that couldn't handle the situation. However, what if he had sent it somewhere else, where it would have cost that company money, time, etc?

No matter how large you are, you are under the same set of laws that govern everyone else. That helps protect people from your vigilante justice.

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#147

10-25-2002, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by KC

What damage is this guy causing? What would happen if you did nothing but deny his submission requests?

It's not so simple, if I would be able to simply decline his galleries no harm is done whatsoever. But this guy manages to change himself so often that could be any of our submitters. Good galleries, new and fast server every time (none of the domains run on the same nameserver or IP-address), so he gets listed. His galleries are good. Only AFTER he's listed he starts redirecting to dialers and his rape content. Damage then is done. If I'd do nothing people would get pissed off and leave to another page. And the people that are trapped in his dialer will not pay on the web again, simply 'cause their trust is ruined. But that's not the point of this discussion. This guy is constantly breaking the rules I set for MY page where he submits to. If he submits to MY page I think I am eligable to set the rules. If he doesn't like those, don't submit. He constantly tries to hide and sneak his way in. I just had it with this kid cheater.

Legal ways would be hard... last trace I did led to Russia...
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#148

10-25-2002, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

So if someone grabs you and threatens to beat the crap out of you if you don't give them your wallet and you realize that you're 10X stronger than the THEIF and you beat the crap out of the theif then you just did something illegial??

EVER HEARD of SELF DEFENSE? Techinically it was illegial - will you get convicted? - not a chance in hell.

We are talking about traffic here not someone in my face threating to beat my ass. It is a known fact that this person keeps doing this so why punish a whole server becasue of this? The Hun said he has many times tried to reach this person and also img-src...maybe the point would click that maybe the person isnt catchable that way and this is not the first time it has happened...i agree,close submissions and only take private accounts

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#149

10-25-2002, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by Gary

Given alot of thought to this?

Taking a page outta your book it appears ;)
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#150

10-25-2002, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by toodamnfli

well if I order a mailorder bride from russia thats considered my property correct?

uuuuummmmm..... I don't think so. I have no idea where you got that thought from. Try telling the authorities that you ordered her from russia and so that makes her your property. I think they may disagree.

Originally posted by toodamnfli
I guess the real question is what is considered property

no, that's not really a question. It's rather simple. Property is property. Humans are not property. We did away with that line of thinking a long time ago.

Originally posted by toodamnfli
and also since it is considered my property why will i be arrested for the molestation of humping a farm animal?

because in SOME places, the act is illegal. The ACT is illegal. That doesn't mean viewing pictures of it on the Internet is illegal.

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