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  • JimmiDean
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2004
    • 3433

    #1

    Affiliate reps and trade shows

    Are they worth it?
    I see some very good reps at shows talking about and showcasing their programs.
    However I also see a bunch of drunks that may pass out the odd bizz card and that is about it.
    They seem to only spend time buying drinks for themselves and there friends.
    I have talked to many account reps and never had them even mention their programs at all.
    I used to travel in the mainstream world and when I did you had to come back with contacts and a debriefing of what you accomplished.
    In other words justify the expense.
    I see some programs where it is the owners that travel to the events and take the time to network and sell themselves and their company.
    Anyone have any insight into this stuff.
    I don?t want to make this a pissing match about certain reps just a general question.
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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200

    #2
    I make contacts when I go, collect biz cards and follow up upon return, but yes, having a few drinks is part of it too
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that

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    • Evil Chris
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      • Dec 2001
      • 13248

      #3
      The party animals definitely do less business than the more serious minded reps.


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      • BT
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        • Apr 2002
        • 6481

        #4
        just networking is good for any rep and drinks are part of the networking process

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        • The Ghost
          IslandDollars.com
          • Oct 2004
          • 12188

          #5
          There are some people, reps and program owners, that should not be allowed in public in general. But never under estimate the impact of a face to face meeting and conversation, especially if you have your act together.

          Some people are great at talking business. Others are great at buying drinks and making people feel comfortable. The best type of rep can be both.

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          • Evil Chris
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            • Dec 2001
            • 13248

            #6
            Originally posted by The Ghost
            There are some people, reps and program owners, that should not be allowed in public in general. But never under estimate the impact of a face to face meeting and conversation, especially if you have your act together. Some people are great at talking business. Others are great at buying drinks and making people feel comfortable. The best type of rep can be both. It's making your audience feel confident with your product by the means you best know how.
            That's well put. To me, that is a serious business minded rep by definition.


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            • stickyfingerz
              Doin fine
              • Oct 2005
              • 24984

              #7
              The first thing I ask someone at a show is. "what can I do for you? And what can you do for me?" I then hand them a card, and extend a hand waiting for theirs. I like to drink too, but not so much that I forget who I talked to. Social lubricant is good. Besides most of the sponsored events tend to have watered down drinks in my experience hehe.

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              • Webby
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                • Oct 2002
                • 14956

                #8
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                • AmeliaG
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 10663

                  #9
                  I find that some reps will even seem vaguely perturbed when I suggest I could send them traffic or something, after I've been hanging out with them and they've been buying me drinks or dinner or whatever.
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                  • emmanuelle
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 3662

                    #10
                    Reps come & go, and a lot of them seem to find jobs in time for a free trip to a show.

                    I deal with owners only.

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                    • WiredGuy
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 34512

                      #11
                      Originally posted by emmanuelle
                      Reps come & go, and a lot of them seem to find jobs in time for a free trip to a show.

                      I deal with owners only.

                      I have a strong preference for meeting the decision makers. I'll deal with affiliate reps after I meet the owners and on a daily basis for ongoing stuff, but I do want to meet the owner(s) first nowadays.
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                      • JimmiDean
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 3433

                        #12
                        Some good point,
                        I did not mean to say reps should not have a few pints with the rest of us, that is a big part of the biz.
                        It just seems to me some companies would not be pleased if they knew where some of there promotion money goes.
                        Like I said I guess there are good and bad just like any other biz.
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                        • The Ghost
                          IslandDollars.com
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 12188

                          #13
                          Originally posted by AmeliaG
                          I find that some reps will even seem vaguely perturbed when I suggest I could send them traffic or something, after I've been hanging out with them and they've been buying me drinks or dinner or whatever.
                          Probably because they were more interested in trying to get into your pants than doing actual business. Business wasn't likely the first thing on their mind and were thrown for a loop (or back to reality) when you brought it up.
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                          • dissipate
                            The Dirty Frenchman
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 8904

                            #14
                            Originally posted by The Ghost
                            Probably because they were more interested in trying to get into your pants than doing actual business. Business wasn't likely the first thing on their mind and were thrown for a loop (or back to reality) when you brought it up.
                            But Amelia is seckzay

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                            • scottybuzz
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                              • May 2006
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                              #15
                              haha very good point
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                              • 12clicks
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                                • Jan 2001
                                • 19813

                                #16
                                Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                I find that some reps will even seem vaguely perturbed when I suggest I could send them traffic or something, after I've been hanging out with them and they've been buying me drinks or dinner or whatever.
                                without stroking me, what do you think of the way I do things at shows?
                                I never actually talk business, I build relationships/friendships.
                                Once they are built, you don't needf to sell someone, you just need to ask.
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                                • Doctor Dre
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                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 51692

                                  #17
                                  This business isn't as profetional as others are ... it all depends who you are working for and if you're a good employe.
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                                  • Juicy D. Links
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                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 122992

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 12clicks
                                    without stroking me, what do you think of the way I do things at shows?
                                    I never actually talk business, I build relationships/friendships.
                                    Once they are built, you don't needf to sell someone, you just need to ask.

                                    true true good post

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                                    • CuriousToyBoy
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                                      • Aug 2005
                                      • 16787

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Evil Chris
                                      The party animals definitely do less business than the more serious minded reps.
                                      That is not necessarily true.

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                                      • jimmy-3-way
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                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 3861

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                        I deal with owners only.
                                        Who wouldn't prefer to deal with owners or decision makers???

                                        Those dudes HIRE reps so all of US aren't constantly bothering them. It's part of the game, if you want that business badly enough you have to go through the reps.

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                                        • d00t
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                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 3766

                                          #21
                                          hmm interesting.... one thing I HATE about any sales rep is someone that straight up refuses to do anything for you (buying you a drink doesn't count but is a good step)!

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                                          • AmeliaG
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                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 10663

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                            without stroking me, what do you think of the way I do things at shows?
                                            I never actually talk business, I build relationships/friendships.
                                            Once they are built, you don't needf to sell someone, you just need to ask.

                                            Since you asked . . . I know you actually have the authority to make deals, but you approach the shows a lot like an affiliate rep. You wear a super cute outfit, you make totally charming conversation, you get huge props for actually choosing a restaurant I would eat at on purpose myself if it were not a show, but, when it comes down to it, it doesn't appear to be possible to transact any business.
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                                            • AmeliaG
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                                              • Jan 2003
                                              • 10663

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                              Reps come & go, and a lot of them seem to find jobs in time for a free trip to a show.

                                              I deal with owners only.

                                              I find a lot of people just assume that having cleavage means I'm a rep, rather than the owner.
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                                              • ADL Colin
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                                                • Feb 2001
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                                                #24
                                                I banned myself from going to shows for bad behavior.


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