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So what is it with this text that it gets passed the spamfilters?

03-26-2005, 06:12 AM

This guy has been hitting my inbox for a while now. I have a spamfilter running that usually recognizes spam in 99.9% of the cases. This is the only guy that keeps getting passed it. Now i just sent the same mail to myself and fuck my cock, it did get passed the filter again. Even fusemail gave it a 0.0 spam assasin score. This is very odd since it uses words like fuck and pussies. Any spam filter should pick that up immediatly.
Using a geocities url is a smart move beacuse its whitelisted but still some of the words he uses simply should get noticed by the filters.
Its clear he uses a certain sentence structure and word usage but what exactly is this based on?

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03-26-2005, 06:15 AM

Haha, you have to do something for your money. The only thing you need to do is getting your emails through the spam filters. Any spammer on this board won't give his info anyway. You have to find out yourself.
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03-26-2005, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by FuqALot

Haha, you have to do something for your money. The only thing you need to do is getting your emails through the spam filters. Any spammer on this board won't give his info anyway. You have to find out yourself.

I dont think *any* spammer would know actually, hes the only one getting passed my filter.
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03-26-2005, 06:36 AM

I have never understood how some spam filters work. I just emailed all my previous clients and included my email in the list. The email landed ok in my hotmail account but not my gmail. The domain is resolvable, it is not a fake email address, it is opt in, it is can spam compliant but yet gmail isnt having any of it.
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03-26-2005, 06:38 AM

I was getting those and just added geocities to my filter. I never recieve anything with geocities in it that I care about anyways.
I wish I knew how it gets through.
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03-26-2005, 06:43 AM

Its not just a case of adding random text to your mail. A lot of mailers do that but still end up in the spam folder. Its a combination of certain words.
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03-26-2005, 06:57 AM

looks like hes beating the filters by using clean text, none of the words hes using get flagged so he doesn't get penalized.
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03-26-2005, 07:00 AM

Have you viewed the source of the message?

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03-26-2005, 07:03 AM

hahahaha , too fuckin funny , a wannabee mailer complaining about spam getting trough his filter
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03-26-2005, 07:04 AM

there is always a way around everything

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03-26-2005, 07:07 AM

Originally posted by Fake Nick

hahahaha , too fuckin funny , a wannabee mailer complaining about spam getting trough his filter

I was just waiting for you...
Quashe, notice the obsessive behaviour?

Anyway my jealous stalking little bitch, to get back at you.
Where exactly am i complaining?

Is that a new claim i can add to th daily growing list of claims about me of which you have failed to back up ONE. One of these days, if im bored, im going back to all your stalking threads and copy and paste every claim about me you made.

Its gonna be fucking hilarious to see by then you probably made 50 claims or more without being able to back up a single one.
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03-26-2005, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by mardigras

Have you viewed the source of the message?

Well, my first guess was certain proxies or headers or any other 3rd party tricks but i was able to reproduce it myself so it really is because of the text itself and nothing else.
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03-26-2005, 07:08 AM

yeah very obsessive A thread about spam and I reply , wow , look at me stalking you

its a hobby
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03-26-2005, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by Fake Nick

yeah very obsessive A thread about spam and I reply , wow , look at me stalking you

its a hobby

see you in my other threads...stalking jealous bitch

Anyway, show me and the rest of gfy where i was complaining. Dont dissapear or ignore this now.
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03-26-2005, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by Franck

Well, my first guess was certain proxies or headers or any other 3rd party tricks but i was able to reproduce it myself so it really is because of the text itself and nothing else.

Oh, OK... I was thinking more on the order of gibberish HTML inserted within the words or machine code that created some of the letters.

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03-26-2005, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by mardigras

Oh, OK... I was thinking more on the order of gibberish HTML inserted within the words or machine code that created some of the letters.

Nop. Just normal letters, no html, no tricks.
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03-26-2005, 07:15 AM

Little bitch, where are you, please back that up.
Or are you gonna fail AGAIN
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03-26-2005, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by Franck

jealous bitch

can you back that up ? ? .....

didn't think so , shut your mouth then piece of shit ,
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03-26-2005, 07:17 AM

Little bitch, where are you, please back that up.
Or are you gonna fail AGAIN

Little bitch, where are you, please back that up.
Or are you gonna fail AGAIN

Little bitch, where are you, please back that up.
Or are you gonna fail AGAIN
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03-26-2005, 07:23 AM

I think it is the wording, and how they don't put words seperately...instead of "pink pussies" it is "pink code Pussies". Notice the capitalization on some of the words. If they don't use a script for making the wording then I suspect they have a good idea what to do and they try it out a couple of times themselves to see if it gets through filters before they mass mail.

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03-26-2005, 07:25 AM

crazy euros...

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03-26-2005, 07:26 AM

Well, the usual. Stalking bitch shows up, talks some bullshit and when asked to back it up he dissapears. Do you find yourself a smart person little bitch? Do you hate it that im about 46 times smarter than you and every time you try to prove otherwise you fail? It must be frustrating as hell. And nothing you can do about it...only lie, lie and lie somemore. So in the end youre just a lying stalking jealous little bitch and hated by basically everyone. Go killyourself dude, the world will be a better place without inbreed fucks like you.
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03-26-2005, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by CoreAdult-Dee

I think it is the wording, and how they don't put words seperately...instead of "pink pussies" it is "pink code Pussies". Notice the capitalization on some of the words. If they don't use a script for making the wording then I suspect they have a good idea what to do and they try it out a couple of times themselves to see if it gets through filters before they mass mail.

Yes you are correct. I wonder if they have a script built for this...i would think so because it would take so much time to create this and test this manually every day.
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03-26-2005, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Fake Nick: I never lie and am always right <---

by putting this in your sig you support all my claims as being 100% truthfull
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03-26-2005, 07:32 AM

Oh the irony.
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03-26-2005, 07:35 AM

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Oh the irony.

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03-26-2005, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by Franck

Yes you are correct. I wonder if they have a script built for this...i would think so because it would take so much time to create this and test this manually every day.

you really are a newb mailer aren't you?
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03-26-2005, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by MickeyG

you really are a newb mailer aren't you?

Im far from being a pro thats for sure.
Why?
By your logic basically every mailer is a noob because like i said, since i have that spam filter hes like the only guy getting passed it. Thats quite rare considering the 1000's of spams i get.

But lets put it to a test. How about you show how pro you are and spam me and we'll see if it hits the inbox.

I noticed youre in my threads lately just to talk bullshit..a little bit like the fake nick style. Yet i give you more credit than him (which isnt hard).

I dont mind anybody talking shit about me as long as they back it up.
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03-26-2005, 07:56 AM

Bump for pro mailer MickeyG whos gonna get passed my spam filter.
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03-26-2005, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by MickeyG

looks like hes beating the filters by using clean text, none of the words hes using get flagged so he doesn't get penalized.

There's flagged words in there lol

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03-26-2005, 08:14 AM

This is just from my experiance

Its the format

Compare emails that get through and emails that don't

I find it helps to type myself and actual letter then try and match the amount of words and sentence format with your message

Whats your email? I'll get past your filters with a URL in the email

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03-26-2005, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by Franck

Im far from being a pro thats for sure.
Why?
By your logic basically every mailer is a noob because like i said, since i have that spam filter hes like the only guy getting passed it. Thats quite rare considering the 1000's of spams i get.

But lets put it to a test. How about you show how pro you are and spam me and we'll see if it hits the inbox.

I noticed youre in my threads lately just to talk bullshit..a little bit like the fake nick style. Yet i give you more credit than him (which isnt hard).

I dont mind anybody talking shit about me as long as they back it up.

Blah blah blah I have no desire to take part in your little games or get caught up in your drama. I just thought you knew more then you aparently do.

When creating your emails its smart to run them through a few filter checkers before sending them out to see the results. The email you posted is a classic example of why this is so important. Personally I have my own servers setup with filter software like spam assiassian etc. but if you cant do that yourself then you can always try one of the online solutions such as :

http://www.lyris.com/contentchecker/

Try it out you'll learn alot from it.
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03-26-2005, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by Tony Montana

This is just from my experiance

Its the format

Compare emails that get through and emails that don't

I find it helps to type myself and actual letter then try and match the amount of words and sentence format with your message

There you go. Also, software that does this is pretty hand too hehehehe :P.
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03-26-2005, 08:23 AM

just thought of another software you can use too, spampal.org has a client side spam blocker that acts the same as spamasassian by showing you the broken rules in the headers... quite helpful for checking other peoples spam.
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03-26-2005, 08:47 AM

dude, post the full header here so we can see it.

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03-26-2005, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by MickeyG

Blah blah blah I have no desire to take part in your little games or get caught up in your drama. I just thought you knew more then you aparently do.

When creating your emails its smart to run them through a few filter checkers before sending them out to see the results. The email you posted is a classic example of why this is so important. Personally I have my own servers setup with filter software like spam assiassian etc. but if you cant do that yourself then you can always try one of the online solutions such as :

http://www.lyris.com/contentchecker/

Try it out you'll learn alot from it.

Exactly what i thought, another lets try to make him bad post without any backing up. Its getting real boring. Youre going the fake nick way dude, stop while you can. I have no problem with you so lets keep it that way.
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03-26-2005, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by MickeyG

just thought of another software you can use too, spampal.org has a client side spam blocker that acts the same as spamasassian by showing you the broken rules in the headers... quite helpful for checking other peoples spam.

Yes, there are several ways to check it. I like fusemail personally though.
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03-26-2005, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by mardigras

machine code that created some of the letters.

That would be my guess as well.

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03-26-2005, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by xlogger

dude, post the full header here so we can see it.

No, its not the header, read my post.

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