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  • wouncie
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2002
    • 1005

    #1

    Jettis Owes Me Over $50,000 !!

    Am I the ONLY one who Jettis seems to be jerking on thier reserves?
    Its been over a yr now and all they do is have a "buffer" customer service rep tell you that they are working on it.


    Anybody else in this situation. We need to do something about it.
  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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    • Mar 2003
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    #2
    Yeah sure...

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    • wouncie
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2002
      • 1005

      #3
      Originally posted by AlienQ
      Yeah sure...

      This is really fucked up man.... Seems like they are Ibill Jr.

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      • Sosa
        In Tushy Land
        • Oct 2002
        • 40149

        #4
        50k? damn, good luck getting your money

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        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
          best designer on GFY
          • Mar 2003
          • 30307

          #5
          This industry owes me a 2006 Shelby GT.
          A Luxury pool and a mansion in the hills...

          What are we going to do about it?

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          • wouncie
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2002
            • 1005

            #6
            Originally posted by AlienQ
            This industry owes me a 2006 Shelby GT.
            A Luxury pool and a mansion in the hills...

            What are we going to do about it?

            .............

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            • wouncie
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2002
              • 1005

              #7
              I honestly want to know are there many other people in this situation with Jettis.com?

              Please Advise

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              • Radiate
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2004
                • 1454

                #8
                I hope you get your money man

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                • Brujah
                  Beer Money Baron
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 22157

                  #9
                  Didn't Jettis become part of Epochsystems?

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                  • Thee Johnclave
                    The Billz Collectaz
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 632

                    #10
                    Wouncie,

                    First, it's been less than eight months since our sale to Paycom; not over a year. Second, no one is "jerking you around". I assure you of this. I realize this situation is frustrating and it seems like you may not be getting the straight story, but you are. It may not seem like it but we are in much the same position as you as we're repeatedly calling, providing information, undergoing reconciliation after reconciliation, etc... and we get little more than "the situation is under review, we anticipate having more information shortly".

                    Contrary to what some think, IPSP's do not hold client reserves and are actually prohibited from doing so as per the banking association regulations. Client reserves are held by the merchant bank and as such they are the only ones with the power to release reserves.

                    When we sold our IPSP portfolio to Paycom we naturally closed our merchant account. When an account the size of that which we held is closed the bank is looking at a large number of trailing credits and chargebacks with zero sales to offset them. This is the entire point of the reserve; to absorb these trailing losses. Eight months is not an uncommon time period for a bank to hold onto reserves; it's actually quite typical.

                    Nothing moves quickly in the banking world...especially when it comes to their letting go of funds, but there will be releases. Please continue to be patient.

                    If you (or any former Jettis IPSP client) have any more questions, feel free to contact me directly.

                    John
                    [email protected]



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                    • Thee Johnclave
                      The Billz Collectaz
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 632

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Brujah
                      Didn't Jettis become part of Epochsystems?
                      No. We did not merge, we sold our IPSP portfolio to Paycom. We still process ACH, offer merchant accounts and gateway services.



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                      • who
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 19593

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JMScore
                        Wouncie,

                        First, it's been less than eight months since our sale to Paycom; not over a year. Second, no one is "jerking you around". I assure you of this. I realize this situation is frustrating and it seems like you may not be getting the straight story, but you are. It may not seem like it but we are in much the same position as you as we're repeatedly calling, providing information, undergoing reconciliation after reconciliation, etc... and we get little more than "the situation is under review, we anticipate having more information shortly".

                        Contrary to what some think, IPSP's do not hold client reserves and are actually prohibited from doing so as per the banking association regulations. Client reserves are held by the merchant bank and as such they are the only ones with the power to release reserves.

                        When we sold our IPSP portfolio to Paycom we naturally closed our merchant account. When an account the size of that which we held is closed the bank is looking at a large number of trailing credits and chargebacks with zero sales to offset them. This is the entire point of the reserve; to absorb these trailing losses. Eight months is not an uncommon time period for a bank to hold onto reserves; it's actually quite typical.

                        Nothing moves quickly in the banking world...especially when it comes to their letting go of funds, but there will be releases. Please continue to be patient.

                        If you (or any former Jettis IPSP client) have any more questions, feel free to contact me directly.

                        John
                        [email protected]
                        With all this going on, you didn't think of making some personal calls to people in wouncie's situation?

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                        • Calvinguy
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 1752

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JMScore
                          No. We did not merge, we sold our IPSP portfolio to Paycom. We still process ACH, offer merchant accounts and gateway services.
                          Is that another way to say you lost your merchant account?

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                          • Benny
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 275

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Calvinguy
                            Is that another way to say you lost your merchant account?
                            That's not the way it works... If you lose your merchant account you don't get to sell it to someone, it just gets shut down.... The Paycom and Jettis folks will tell you that the sale of a portfolio has to be approved by Visa. If the account was in trouble they wouldn't have approved just moving it to a new location...
                            <span style="color:white">Bruce at W...dot net</span>

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                            • wouncie
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 1005

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JMScore
                              Wouncie,

                              First, it's been less than eight months since our sale to Paycom; not over a year. Second, no one is "jerking you around". I assure you of this. I realize this situation is frustrating and it seems like you may not be getting the straight story, but you are. It may not seem like it but we are in much the same position as you as we're repeatedly calling, providing information, undergoing reconciliation after reconciliation, etc... and we get little more than "the situation is under review, we anticipate having more information shortly".

                              Contrary to what some think, IPSP's do not hold client reserves and are actually prohibited from doing so as per the banking association regulations. Client reserves are held by the merchant bank and as such they are the only ones with the power to release reserves.

                              When we sold our IPSP portfolio to Paycom we naturally closed our merchant account. When an account the size of that which we held is closed the bank is looking at a large number of trailing credits and chargebacks with zero sales to offset them. This is the entire point of the reserve; to absorb these trailing losses. Eight months is not an uncommon time period for a bank to hold onto reserves; it's actually quite typical.

                              Nothing moves quickly in the banking world...especially when it comes to their letting go of funds, but there will be releases. Please continue to be patient.

                              If you (or any former Jettis IPSP client) have any more questions, feel free to contact me directly.

                              John
                              [email protected]
                              You may have sold to Epoch 8 months ago, but you owed me MY reserves for SIX months before that! Why not look into MY issue before u hit me with the default reply. You guys were bullshittin me about my $50k way before you sold to Epoch. Guess you could ask my reps, but for some odd reason they keep dissapearing. Anyway, enough of the smoke up my ass.... I heard this all before.

                              Feel Free to contact me directly when u have my money.

                              Mrwouncie AT asswatcher.com

                              Now as I said, does anyone ELSE have this problem?

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                              • wouncie
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2002
                                • 1005

                                #16
                                My time to edit the last post expired, so here is the edited reply...............


                                You may have sold to Epoch 8 months ago, but you owed me MY reserves for SIX months before that! Why not look into MY issue before u hit me with the default reply. You guys were bullshittin me about my $50k way before you sold to Epoch. Guess you could ask my reps, but for some odd reason they keep dissappearing. Anyway, enough of the smoke up my ass.... I heard this all before.

                                you guys are holding reserves from members that joined damn near two years ago. How the hell much longer do u think you need to safegaurd the money.

                                Your reps ALWAYS say they are working on it.... The latest is that your programmers have to make a program to confirm that you pay the webmasters the money that the banks pay you. How hard is it for you guys to just give them the list of people you owe and cut the check directly to us?!!

                                The login page is gone from www.jettis.com

                                I can see you guys now.

                                "Hey Joe, we have the last of the boxes loaded into the moving truck ... Go ahead and pull the plug on the Login page"

                                Feel Free to contact me directly when u have my money.

                                Mrwouncie AT asswatcher.com

                                Now as I said, does anyone ELSE have this problem?

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                                • Benny
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 275

                                  #17
                                  "The login page is gone from www.jettis.com"

                                  Errr... What about the Access Account button/link??
                                  <span style="color:white">Bruce at W...dot net</span>

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                                  • wouncie
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2002
                                    • 1005

                                    #18
                                    damn, now i see it.... must of just blocked my IP addy. This is what I get.

                                    Our automated system is currently unavailable. If you require immediate assistance please call us at 888-205-2664 or 818-597-3280. You can also e-mail us at [email protected]

                                    If you do not require immediate assistance, please try this system again in a few hours. Our technicians are working on the problem and should have the situation resolved shortly. We apologize for the inconvenience.

                                    Our technicians are working on the problem and should have the situation resolved shortly

                                    Our technicians are working on the problem and should have the situation resolved shortly

                                    Our technicians are working on the problem and should have the situation resolved shortly

                                    Our technicians are working on the problem and should have the situation resolved shortly


                                    Been like this for months.

                                    It really doesnt matter, this issue is about my money.
                                    Last edited by wouncie; 03-24-2005, 03:43 PM.

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                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                      best designer on GFY
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 30307

                                      #19
                                      Woa!
                                      It don't get more real than that, sorry about my above statements.
                                      Worse sorry about yur reserves man!

                                      I will kindly STFU now.

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                                      • wouncie
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2002
                                        • 1005

                                        #20
                                        No problem man. Im just really curious to who else they owe on this level.

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                                        • Benny
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 275

                                          #21
                                          What are you clicking on?? I just logged in without any problem??

                                          Stats look good today
                                          <span style="color:white">Bruce at W...dot net</span>

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                                          • ClevelandSlim
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 199

                                            #22
                                            yo JMScore...

                                            yo J... are you guys still in Agoura Hills? me and my attorney are planning a little visit.
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                                            • wouncie
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 1005

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Benny
                                              What are you clicking on?? I just logged in without any problem??

                                              Stats look good today

                                              Good for you.... Hope you get your reserves.

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                                              • Benny
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Sep 2002
                                                • 275

                                                #24
                                                I have no worries about the reserves. Jettis is a solid company and will do everything they can to get your reserves back. I've been dealing with adult merchant accounts and 3rd party billing since 97 and these guys know thier shit.

                                                The most important thing to remember here is that Jettis does NOT have your money. The bank does... By law, the 3rd party biller is not directly involved, and has no stake in the reserves. They are just your intermediary...
                                                <span style="color:white">Bruce at W...dot net</span>

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                                                • Thee Johnclave
                                                  The Billz Collectaz
                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                  • 632

                                                  #25
                                                  Wouncie,

                                                  As I said before, we don't hold the reserves. I'm not going to air the details of your past history in a public forum but will look into your account specifically in regards to reserves prior to our sale. I'll contact you directly with my findings.

                                                  That said, please provide the link you are attempting to login through. I assure you we aren't blocking your ip and I cannot replicate what you're reporting.

                                                  Thanks,

                                                  John



                                                  Seeking large traffic deals.

                                                  john at pptme dot com

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                                                  • Thee Johnclave
                                                    The Billz Collectaz
                                                    • Nov 2001
                                                    • 632

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Benny
                                                    That's not the way it works... If you lose your merchant account you don't get to sell it to someone, it just gets shut down.... The Paycom and Jettis folks will tell you that the sale of a portfolio has to be approved by Visa. If the account was in trouble they wouldn't have approved just moving it to a new location...
                                                    Bingo...thanks Benny.



                                                    Seeking large traffic deals.

                                                    john at pptme dot com

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                                                    • Thee Johnclave
                                                      The Billz Collectaz
                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                      • 632

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ClevelandSlim
                                                      yo J... are you guys still in Agoura Hills? me and my attorney are planning a little visit.
                                                      Yup. Hit me up and we can setup a time to meet if you like.

                                                      [email protected]



                                                      Seeking large traffic deals.

                                                      john at pptme dot com

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                                                      • robfantasy
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                        • 6445

                                                        #28
                                                        damn wouncie thats a lotta paper for them to be shitting on you about.
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                                                        • TDF
                                                          Triple OG nigga on GFY
                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                          • 27296

                                                          #29
                                                          damnnnnn
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                                                          • SetTheWorldonFire
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                                                            • Feb 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            hope everything works out fine
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                                                            • $pikes
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                              • 1055

                                                              #31
                                                              email sent.

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                                                              • wouncie
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                • 1005

                                                                #32
                                                                So maybe i AM the only one they owe on this level.

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                                                                • $pikes
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                  • 1055

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by wouncie
                                                                  So maybe i AM the only one they owe on this level.
                                                                  I sent you an email.

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                                                                  • mrthumbs
                                                                    salad tossing sig guy
                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                    • 11702

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by wouncie
                                                                    So maybe i AM the only one they owe on this level.

                                                                    Its a racial thing!!!

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                                                                    • XxXotic
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                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                      • 8500

                                                                      #35
                                                                      damn wouncie, sorry to hear that, GL gettin yer shit straightened out
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                                                                      • MikeHawk
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                        • 6683

                                                                        #36
                                                                        We have stayed quiet and will continue to be patient and wait for our money, Ken Lawson and Kjell has spoken to us serveral times and has explained the situation in full detail to us.

                                                                        In fact before Chris Mallick left Paycom he made a call on our behalf to find out what the story was. At that time Chris said "not to worry about it, and the problem will be resolved"

                                                                        Time marchs on and we know that Jettis is doing everything in there power to collect all of money, so today we are not worried about it.
                                                                        THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

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                                                                        • wouncie
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                          • 1005

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by MikeHawk
                                                                          We have stayed quiet and will continue to be patient and wait for our money, Ken Lawson and Kjell has spoken to us serveral times and has explained the situation in full detail to us.

                                                                          In fact before Chris Mallick left Paycom he made a call on our behalf to find out what the story was. At that time Chris said "not to worry about it, and the problem will be resolved"

                                                                          Time marchs on and we know that Jettis is doing everything in there power to collect all of money, so today we are not worried about it.

                                                                          We'll I have never heard of them. Ken Lawson and Kjell

                                                                          I get the everyday clock punching buffers.

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                                                                          • MikeHawk
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                            • 6683

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by wouncie
                                                                            We'll I have never heard of them. Ken Lawson and Kjell

                                                                            I get the everyday clock punching buffers.
                                                                            If I might suggest to call them direct thru the Jettis number and they will pick or call you right back as they did with us, for sure

                                                                            We want our money as bad as you do for sure! The "real feeling" i got was they want to make sure they get our money and everyone elses!
                                                                            THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

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                                                                            • Webby
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 14956

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Damned processors!

                                                                              Is it an inherent inability to run a biz that causes them to be constantly "restructuring" or going bust??

                                                                              They ALL need an independent oversight/regulatory body auditing their accounts monthly and independent escrow services responsible for cash handling.

                                                                              Screw em all.
                                                                              Last edited by Webby; 03-24-2005, 06:53 PM.
                                                                              XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                              • Thee Johnclave
                                                                                The Billz Collectaz
                                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                                • 632

                                                                                #40
                                                                                MikeHawk... Thanks for the support and your patience.

                                                                                Wouncie... I believe you spoke with Kjell approximately 3 weeks ago. He's out of town but I'll speak with Ken and ask that he call you tomorrow, or you can call in as MikeHawk suggested.



                                                                                Seeking large traffic deals.

                                                                                john at pptme dot com

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                                                                                • keyboard warrior
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                                  • 1435

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Well at least the Jettis guys post here, not like fucking IBILL!
                                                                                  - nothing here -

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                                                                                  • tungsten
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                                                                                    • Mar 2004
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    good luck with that cash man
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                                                                                    • adonthenet
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                                                                                      • 16753

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      goood luck dude!

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                                                                                      • Sosa
                                                                                        In Tushy Land
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 40149

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by keyboard warrior
                                                                                        Well at least the Jettis guys post here, not like fucking IBILL!
                                                                                        ya, so true

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                                                                                        • Jason
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                          • 4287

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          wow.. wouncie is a blast from the past..
                                                                                          I stay busy.

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                                                                                          • TDF
                                                                                            Triple OG nigga on GFY
                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                            • 27296

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by PornDollar
                                                                                            wow.. wouncie is a blast from the past..


                                                                                            yeah wouncie is old skool pimpin at its finest
                                                                                            Sig heil

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                                                                                            • Lykos
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 31027

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              50K is a lot of money

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                                                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 30307

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                How come no one has filed on the Merchant bank?

                                                                                                I mean really, if a bank can tell you your balance in less than a second 24-7.
                                                                                                If A bank took in money albeit even from an online processor they have taken money knowing full n well where it came from. If the money is no good they have no business taking it in the first place let alone holding for months to years.

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                                                                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                  • 30307

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Not t mention in a good account 50K can accrue some great interest.
                                                                                                  Who is getting interest on that 50K?
                                                                                                  Definatly not the people it belongs to...

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                                                                                                  • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                    #50
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