MGibson/Dave Stodghill auctioning off TerriSchiavo.com RIGHT NOW

Finally.

Wow, thats fucked up.

i have to add some funny links , only because they are amusing

http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi...ndall%20McCann

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:L...aster%22&hl=en

http://www.programmingtalk.com/showt...oto=nextnewest

Amazing.....

"Hi guys, and hello Joel, it's about time I find you on the net trying to scam more people into buying this "software"

I know no one knows me so I carry very little weight here if any at all, but rest assured the moderators can see my IP and know I have never posted here before.

A little history is in order I guess so here is an unbiased version of Joel and his business dealings.

My dealings with Joel started almost 4 months ago, I emailed him about buying his software, and he was very responsive at first, and emailed me back promptly.

I was very hip to his auction script, it has a TON of features and looks like a very solid script, and he seemed like a very presentable proffesional seller in his script, so I immediatley sent the money via paypal, like sooo many other people have done.

I did have to wait 3 days for the script to arrive though, which I can handle and understand, people have a life and well, I know you can't be online 24/7 to send out scripts. There was no worry there whatsoever.

I recieved the script and with a excitement i clicked it to open it with Winzip ...










...














WinZip has encountered an error, the file is either corrupt or an invalid Winzip file.



Try again....


And again...

and again...


At this point, I figure well okay, somethings wrong with my winzip, I remove winzip from my computer and reinstal it and try again.

And again...

At that point, I knew maybe that Joel had maybe made some kind of mistake when zipping the script so I figured I'd just email him using the same email address I had used to buy the program.

I waited...

1 day...
2 days...
3 days....

17 days later I recieved a reply... Like, geezus it took that long to take care of a customer right?

Here was his reply email (Look at the date just so you can see how long ago this was)





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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:39:09 -0400
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Hi Marcus,

I do not provide any support via email anymore. You will have to log into the new customer service area to recieve help from now on.

__________________________________________________ ___________




And that was it.
I went to the site, looked for a customer log in area, couldn't find one though but about 3 weeks later I went back just to remind myself how pissed I was about internet scams like this one.

I noticed the customer log in center and well, had no idea what my username or password was, I was never given one. I sent out another email, waiting to see what my response would be. Nothing came, I did a whois on the website and tried to call, the number was disconnected.

I tried to do a chargeback in Paypal, I used the reason that "Items not recieved"

I am waiting to hear back from their chargeback center, Im told its different then Paypal and comes directly from Mastercard.


A little funny thing I did run accross trying to find Joel is that no one anywhere is using his script succesfully out of all the bulletin board postings I've found, and moreover then not, any postings I usually find about him are either, the Winzip was corrupt, the script was never sent, the script doesnt work, or the script works but uses "call home" features and after a few days of the script working, it "mysteriously" dies...


Just my 2 cents, and heck, I'll leave my email address for anyone who wants to contact me about this.

[email protected]

Joel if your reading this, do the right thing, take care of your customers, word of mouth CAN shut your sales down to nothing. You might think your "immune" on the internet, and that there are too many people on the interenet for anyone to affect you, but seriously, anyone who is going to lay out $299 on a script is going to be looking in search engines for things about you.

I'd love if you sent me a real working copy of the script I paid for, but if not, then Im sure you must be starving and need the money more then I.

A true business man does whatever it takes to keep his customers happy, I read your responses here to the other poster, and a real businessman would have only made one post.

" Hey man it's Joel, Im sorry let me take care of it right now for you""

"Birth: 1972, Ireland
Death: unknown, Ireland

Criminal, Terrorist. Also known as David Stodghill and Randy Thomas. One of England's most wanted, the Irish Republican Army activist was part of CIRCA, and is said to have been one of the bombers in the Omagh attack that injured over 250 people and killed 21 but was never verified. Reported missing in 2001 by his family, his body was reported to be found by British SAS troops in Dublin. A movie based on his exploits was broadcast on Life television.
Search Amazon.com for Randall McCann

Burial:
Unknown"

http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi...ndall%20McCann

Now THAT is interesting...

http://www.programmingtalk.com/showt...oto=nextnewest

I actually did write that one, a coder that ripped a bunch of people off...



http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:L...aster%22&hl=en

That is new to me.



You guys can get as excited as you want, but:

There are over 200 different David Stodghill's listed in the USA in anywho.com
And I dont doubt that at least 1 of them has internet access...
It's kind of like syaing "Are you John Smith, I found a post from John Smith"

i thought the other one was funnier , he is on a forum pissed about hotlinkers and makes up some story about being an i.r.a. member but he mis-spells his secret identity on find a grave also using a few of his alias's brian hicks

then uses the same quote he just used here about making up a new name lol

So you ARE David Stodghill?

I never said that, read my reply above. Don't put words into my mouth...

I dont care really , that domain is a good grab , the others are shady to say the least , i sure hope you dont have kids. seriously.. Some of the stuff your doing is not right at all , cool it off man have a concience.

Are you talking to me?

See ?

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/business...13_humane.html

And here Im hanign out with Congressmen on my stretch of hunting land.

http://edwards.house.gov/html/photos.cfm

There are hundreds of more of google "David Stodghill's"

sig placement for this 24 page thread

Are you or are you not David Stodghill? It's a simple yes or no queston.

Smokey Ive said this time and time again, I have NEVER done anything illegal EVER.

The Sheriffs and the FBI checked me out when I was hosting the Jessica website and I was 100% clean.

As far as having kids, yes I have 2 kids, why, should I load my gun and be ready for some GFY wacko to come to my house thinking I am someone else?

Ya, that's him.

I want to see him say it is or deny it.

If I told you my real name what would it matter anyway, no one would believe me.


I can borrow anyones name to be on the internet, hell from now on my name is going to be Mark Jervis.

Get it?

No, I do not get it. Are you or are you not David Stodghill?

Oh hey, Pat buddy, I dont know where you think Im a "person of interest" in a murder, maybe you could ellaborate better?

No, Im not David Stodghill, David Stodghill lives in Texas, see?

"Podelia the Dalmatian was the beloved pet of 14-year-old Maurice Haye. Podelia is dead -- murdered at the Houston Humane Society. The nine-year-old Dalmation got out of the yard on Thursday, July 9, when the Hayes were out of town. David Stodghill found Podelia late that night. "

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/business...13_humane.html

Heres a better view of me:

So is that a "No"?

edit - You are missing the game completely here. This is GFY. After you lose credibility here you may well lose it everywhere else. So, that being said, are you or are you not the person known here on GFY as David Stodghill"?

As good of a "No" as you need.

Pat, why would you say I was a murder suspect?

And if you really believe that I am and yet you still fuck with me man?

this shit about stodghill is to the point where i would just like to believe it to be one big conspiracy. it's too fucked up to be true, ya know?

I didnt post those for a reason , they have nothing to do with you.

I'm not going to argue with you about it , i dont involve myself in your drama. You can play games with people all you want if thats how you get your kicks, im just telling you man to man , the shit aint cool , lay off , especially the kid stuff, thats not cool at all. IF you do have kids you should know how precious they are and making false allegations about people is just plain idiotic. ( that goes both ways )

NewBreed, I dont know if your new to this or not so Ill make it simple.
This is the internet.
When I log on I have fun.
When I log off 100% of everything on it leaves my brain.

I have a life, I have a happy life, I like my life, I love my kids and my wife.

No one on here knows my name, knows where I live, what I do for a job, what I do on the net.

Not One.

How do you know I am not he in those pictures eh?

Smokey, I told Mark I didnt post that shit about him on the board, but hey he didnt believe me, calls me and tells me hes gonna blow my head off.

So he can believe what he wants too. It really doesnt matter, I am looking forward to 2 new litters of dobermans due this weekend and my daughter in the school play and my son starting go cart racing.


Do I REALLY care about gfy?

Not really

I wasnt talking about the forum stuff , i was talking about the blogspot you posted. where did that come from ?

I can only speak for what i have seen and a few things if your all talkative you could answer for everyone if it pleases you.

Why was the paypal link on the jessica page changed multiple times ? and where did the money go ? who can i contact to verify this ?

OK, then please help me to understand why all of these people say you are him and that you have done all these bad things. Help me understand why these other people think/claim you are someone else and that you are a convicted sexual predator and a murder suspect.

Why would they all mount this huge conspiracy against you with no proof?

The comments in that thread are priceless.

I never posted a blog about JFPDude, in fact I have several people posting blogs about "me" and JfpDude at the same time. People are talking shit about him as much as they are me, he just hasnt found th epages yet.


Well I already explained this Smokey but Ill do it again JUST FOR YOU.

Mark had no bank account.
The domain ahd just been registered and the dns updated per a quick call to GoDaddy.com to force the domain. (It did NOT propogate automatically)

Therefore we used the ip address of the server to start with.
Mark needed donations up, but he had no email address and I couldnt get him one on jessicamarielunsford.com

He had his nephew Joe call me, Joe called me, I walked him through how to make a paypal account. I told him he needed and email address, he said "Just give me one" I did, [email protected]

About 5 hours later Mark called and said he had gotten a bank account and yes, it WAS at 5am in the morning.

I called Joe, told him how to add the credit card information to prove their bank account. Joe added it. I called PayPal at about9am to have them push it through, it was instantly done. Joe called back and said that he wanted an address Mark could put on the site that he could check down in Florida.

I told him to make a hotmail address, he made [email protected]



I never had access to the paypal account, I never saw the paypal account, I have no idea WHATS in the paypal account.

I never did.

Good ol JFPDude calls down there to cry to theSheriff who basically told him to piss off.

Of course, he made it sound different on the board but in REALITY JFPDude wanted to HOST the Jessicamarielunsford.com website and that is what got him so pissed. That is why you SAW Mark say CharlotteWebHosting.com on CNN and Fox News and Nancy Grace.

As far as confirming this, I can give you Mark's cell phone number if I knew you wouldnt abuse it...

Okay #1 if I was a "sexual Predator" isnt that funny that your accusing me of making a web blog about JFPDude accusing him of the same thing and now suddenly hes accusing me of it.

#2 if I was a sexual predator do you even THINK the FBI and Sheriffs would have had let me do ANYTHING with Jessica's site.

#3. If you REALLY believe Im a murder suspect, you really want to keep fucking around with me?

Dude your just not making any sense , its a simple question, where did you "find" this ?

#1, I don't remember accusing you of anything.

#2, Don't know, the FBI and whatever SO you dealt with may not know of your "alledged" criminal history.

#3, I don't give a fuck, you don't scare me at all. I have hunted and captured more murder suspects than I care to remember, so you just fall into the "fucked" category should I choose to hunt and capture you (assuming you are David Stodgehill). No more and no less.



Put that in your pipe and smoke it man. I asked some simple yes or no questions. You chose to make it a game and not be straight up about it. You are your own worst enemy at this point. If you are not the same dude just say so, it's that simple.

thats new to you , but you own the domain ??

your logic is confusing

#3, I don't give a fuck, you don't scare me at all. I have hunted and captured more murder suspects than I care to remember, so you just fall into the "fucked" category should I choose to hunt and capture you (assuming you are David Stodgehill). No more and no less.



Heh man... Thats kind of amusing.

I host people Smokey, I owned that domain YEARS ago and sold it, I do not know who has it now, I know they won it on sedo and I gave them free hosting for a year.

i can believe half of what you say , but when you so blatantly bullshit about the other stuff its hard to tell if what your telling is true ..

I dont even know why you brought that jessica stuff to this board anyways , it cetainly didnt help anything you have to agree on that

Actually, I came to the boards with Jessicas site to help find a lost girl. I needed flyers made and needed help. I know designers on GFY can turn out some good fast clean work. That is why I came.


As far as bullshit, it probably isnt bullshit, just youve heard a one sided story and havent heard the other.

ok well the whois is under your name and the user who posted on that page also posted a link as a threat to another webmaster on the forum and the link happens to have like 3 of your alias's on it, how the fuck do you explain that ?

Your just not making any sense or you have the flukiest of coincidental lives in the world

Glad I could make you laugh. You still have not given a straight answer.

My whois info is on alot of the domains on my server, but yet I do not own the domains, in fact alot of businesses list their webhosting company on the whois for everything. Mainstream that is.

As far as aliases, I have 1 real legal alias. I have never used it anywhere on the internet, it is the one on my drivers license, its the name my kids know me as, its what my wife calls me, what you see on the internet is what I created to be known on the internet.

Maybe I should have chosen a better name...

Laugh with me Bill.

I remeber i even mocked up a page thinking i could help.

But now thats its done and over it certainly was the WRONG thing to do.

ANY designer on the board would have been more than happy to help you privately via icq if you had asked at no charge , fact is you wanted some publicity for it.

Regardless of your intentions it went wrong, you should learn from it.

A) never mix adult business with non-adult, especially when it involves kids

I am actually not laughing, just looking for a straight answer from you.

Where can I read about this? Sounds juicy. Just like Dave's eBaying mommy.

Actually I wanted NO glory from it at all.
I paid to have 50,000 colored flyers made and had an 8'X5' banner made too out of my own exspense.

Hey um I know you dont really read this shit and I know your a fake nic who scared to post using his real nick, aka CHUCK BECKETT
So nice of you to email.

But just so you know, That is not me on eBay, I do not have an eBay account, I dont use eBay, it is full of bullshit auctions.

I do not know the person on eBay, I was told to transfer the domain, I cannot control the whois, but you can see the name servers are NOT mine.

If that was me and I had made $10,000 of off that site do you think Id be sitting here talking shit to you guys.

No Bill okay?
And right now JfpDude and Turboslut are sitting back laughing at you for believeing this shit.