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  • 12clicks
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 19814
    #51
    Originally posted by titmowse
    i don't see it as a political thing. your buddies tom delay and bill frist see it as a political thing.
    It is not a political thing. It is their duty to protect our life, liberty and pursuit of happyness.
    life being the first on the list.

    Originally posted by titmowse
    i see it as personal thing that i had to live through and for the sake of whatever fondness i have for you i am done with this topic.
    you had a daughter who's husband would not let her get any treatment and the courts forced you to stand idly by while he killed her?


    I too, had a family member in a coma. Doctors said to send him to a home and forget about him, he'd never recover.
    My parents brought my brother home and today, he's 100% normal, husaband, father.

    so please don't imagine I don't know what I'm talking about.
    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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      • Pleasurepays
        BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
        • Aug 2002
        • 11913
        #52
        Originally posted by mardigras
        Not one of the courts have ever gone to see her in person for themselves, and I don't know where you got the erroneous impression that every doctor has agreed with the husband.
        this case has been in the courts for years and the opinions of the courts have always been on the side of the husband. just so you know, judges dont watch bank robberies, acts of rape or murders either... but they do rule on them in the presence of evidence, testimony of witnesses and the testimony of experts. thats how the legal system works. get used to it. where the fuck are you from? some eskimo village?

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          • Kevsh
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2004
            • 8619
            #53
            Originally posted by 12clicks
            It is not a political thing. It is their duty to protect our life, liberty and pursuit of happyness.
            life being the first on the list.
            This coming from Mr.Bush is a flip-flop Kerry would be proud of ... the rest of them gave in to public pressure. Every day people are taken off life support in this country under similar circumstances but the politicians only become involved when it's a major news item. I agree it's their duty, but that duty should apply to all: Not just those that get major air time on CNN.

            Originally posted by 12clicks
            you had a daughter who's husband would not let her get any treatment and the courts forced you to stand idly by while he killed her?

            I too, had a family member in a coma. Doctors said to send him to a home and forget about him, he'd never recover.
            My parents brought my brother home and today, he's 100% normal, husaband, father.

            so please don't imagine I don't know what I'm talking about.
            No one can say until they are in that situation, but you neglected to mention that this was Terry's wishes. Perhaps unproven, but so were the stories her family told that she wanted to live. It's he said/she said and the courts have repeatedly told her family that they don't have the right.

            The law has said this over and over: They just refuse to accept reality. I feel their pain but they have tied up the courts, politicians and cost thousands and thousands of dollars of YOUR money to stubbornly fight a battle they have lost too many times to count. They have exhausted the system and even today, after another rejection last night they are STILL moving to another court to seek help.

            Memo to her parents/family: People support your wishes to keep your daughter/sister alive. But you've lost. Even the intervention of the President himself didn't make a difference. You've gotten more appeals, more public pressure, more government involvement than 99% of us could ever dream of. You've spent a LOT of public money to fight this and it's time to let it go. It's over. Start your grieving process by first accepting defeat. Say your goodbyes and prepare a nice ceremony. But let it go.

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              • Shooting_Manic
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2005
                • 1740
                #54
                [QUOTE=Pleasurepays]this case has been in the courts for years and the opinions of the courts have always been on the side of the husband. just so you know, judges dont watch bank robberies, acts of rape or murders either... but they do rule on them in the presence of evidence, testimony of witnesses and the testimony of experts. thats how the legal system works. QUOTE]

                Correct.
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                  • tony299
                    lurker
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 57021
                    #55
                    Originally posted by 12clicks
                    I find it sad that you see this as a political thing.

                    We're talking about starving a woman to death.
                    There is plenty of evidence and testimony floating around to at least caste doubt on whats going on.
                    We won't even kill a criminal when there's this much doubt.
                    GOP memo says issue offers political rewards

                    By The Washington Post

                    WASHINGTON ? Republican leaders believe their attention to the Terri
                    Schiavo issue could pay dividends with Christian conservatives whose
                    support they covet in the 2006 midterm elections, according to a GOP
                    memo intended to be seen only by senators.

                    The one-page memo, distributed to Republican senators by party
                    leaders, called the debate over Schiavo legislation "a great political
                    issue" that would appeal to the party's base, or core, supporters. The
                    memo singled out Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., who is up for re-election
                    next year.

                    "This is an important moral issue, and the pro-life base will be
                    excited that the Senate is debating this important issue," said the
                    memo, reported by ABC News and later given to The Washington Post.
                    "This is a great political issue, because Senator Nelson of Florida
                    has already refused to become a co-sponsor and this is a tough issue
                    for Democrats."

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                      • Corona
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 2185
                        #56
                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                        It is not a political thing. It is their duty to protect our life, liberty and pursuit of happyness.
                        life being the first on the list.

                        I too, had a family member in a coma.

                        Just this week a baby was removed from life support against his mother?s wishes in Texas under the Texas Futile Care Law that George Bush signed.

                        Where was everyone then?

                        This is political pandering to the base and nothing more.

                        Talking points were circulated among Republican senators explaining why they should vote to intervene in the Schiavo case.

                        "This is an important moral issue and the pro-life base will be excited..."

                        "This is a great political issue... this is a tough issue for Democrats."

                        This lady is NOT in a coma. Totally different situation from your brother and it has been 15 years. Do you not think that if she was going to get better it would have happend by now?
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                        And heaven knows I'm miserable now

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                          • mardigras
                            Bon temps!
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 14194
                            #57
                            Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                            this case has been in the courts for years and the opinions of the courts have always been on the side of the husband. just so you know, judges dont watch bank robberies, acts of rape or murders either... but they do rule on them in the presence of evidence, testimony of witnesses and the testimony of experts. thats how the legal system works. get used to it. where the fuck are you from? some eskimo village?
                            So the husband not allowing film of Terri for 2 years is presenting evidence how? Why shouldn't the court that is making the decision to pull her plug have visual confirmation as to the ascertations of her condition, especially since the 2 sides report it very differently? Judges often take the jury to a crime scene, little difference would be visiting this woman personally and seeing for themselves which side is correct.
                            .

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                              • tony299
                                lurker
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021
                                #58
                                these are lies she is brain dead ,how many fucking judges have to agree for christs sake. her husband is not a villian her parents are

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                                  • mardigras
                                    Bon temps!
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 14194
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                    these are lies she is brain dead ,how many fucking judges have to agree for christs sake. her husband is not a villian her parents are
                                    She is not brain dead. If she were brain dead she would have to be hooked up to a ventilator.

                                    If these are lies, it's not just the parents telling them. I've seen several interviews with people who have been involved with her care.
                                    .

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                                      • tony299
                                        lurker
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 57021
                                        #60
                                        you can have no brain activity and breath on your own. How many doctors have said she is not going to get better she has no brain activity. Doctors who did examine her, who would want to live like that? Her parents are selfish people

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                                          • mardigras
                                            Bon temps!
                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 14194
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by tony404
                                            you can have no brain activity and breath on your own. How many doctors have said she is not going to get better she has no brain activity.
                                            About as many doctors who have said that if she was given the rehabilitation her husband has denied for her that she would improve.
                                            .

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                                              • Pleasurepays
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                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 11913
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by mardigras
                                                So the husband not allowing film of Terri for 2 years is presenting evidence how? Why shouldn't the court that is making the decision to pull her plug have visual confirmation as to the ascertations of her condition, especially since the 2 sides report it very differently? Judges often take the jury to a crime scene, little difference would be visiting this woman personally and seeing for themselves which side is correct.
                                                what is so tough for you to undestand? the law is and has been followed. numerous doctors have been involved and given the courts opinions. the courts have made a few rulings. its done. it's over. repeated rulings were made on this case over the years. the final decision is that she is in a "persistent, vegitative state". sorry. nothing illegal happened. the law is being followed. you are an emotional twit who does not seem to understand the legal system and how it works, yet want to make legal arguments. why not make it more interesting and start an even more meaningless debate on quantum mechanics or colliding atoms?

                                                you would sound much more intelligent if you would just say "i dont agree with this - thats just my opinion" and people could respect that. why highlight your ignorance by making rediculous statements and remarks about a legal system you apparently don't understand?

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                                                  • 12clicks
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 19814
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by Kevsh
                                                    No one can say until they are in that situation, but you neglected to mention that this was Terry's wishes. Perhaps unproven, but so were the stories her family told that she wanted to live.
                                                    so this is your argument to kill her, because neither side might be true?

                                                    you just made my point.
                                                    A death row inmate would be spared in this situation.
                                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                      • 12clicks
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 19814
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                                        GOP memo says issue offers political rewards

                                                        By The Washington Post

                                                        WASHINGTON ? Republican leaders believe their attention to the Terri
                                                        Schiavo issue could pay dividends with Christian conservatives whose
                                                        support they covet in the 2006 midterm elections, according to a GOP
                                                        memo intended to be seen only by senators.

                                                        The one-page memo, distributed to Republican senators by party
                                                        leaders, called the debate over Schiavo legislation "a great political
                                                        issue" that would appeal to the party's base, or core, supporters. The
                                                        memo singled out Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., who is up for re-election
                                                        next year.

                                                        "This is an important moral issue, and the pro-life base will be
                                                        excited that the Senate is debating this important issue," said the
                                                        memo, reported by ABC News and later given to The Washington Post.
                                                        "This is a great political issue, because Senator Nelson of Florida
                                                        has already refused to become a co-sponsor and this is a tough issue
                                                        for Democrats."
                                                        Gee, I guess the the house democrats got the memo too since about half of them voted to save her.
                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                          • 12clicks
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 19814
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Corona
                                                            Just this week a baby was removed from life support against his mother?s wishes in Texas under the Texas Futile Care Law that George Bush signed.

                                                            Where was everyone then?

                                                            This is political pandering to the base and nothing more.
                                                            wrong. having a machine breath for you is vastly different than having someone not allow terri to eat and then stop her feeding tube as well.




                                                            Originally posted by Corona
                                                            This lady is NOT in a coma. Totally different situation from your brother and it has been 15 years. Do you not think that if she was going to get better it would have happend by now?
                                                            you know as much about my brother as you do this case.

                                                            climb back on the porch.
                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                              • messiah1
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 549
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                Have you examined her, Dr. messiah1?

                                                                Why has Michael Schiavo forbidden any video be shot of her the past 2 years? Wouldn't that help to dispell much of the misinformation and accusations in this case?
                                                                No Dr mardigras but the many judges in Florida have seen the 4 hours video of Ms Schiavo and that's why they made the decision that she was a vegatable that will not recover from her brain damage. The judges also were told by the doctors who examined her close up and person and not just by video told the judges that she will not recover.
                                                                Last edited by messiah1; 03-23-2005, 08:11 AM.

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                                                                  • theking
                                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                    • 21053
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                    About as many doctors who have said that if she was given the rehabilitation her husband has denied for her that she would improve.
                                                                    Her husband sought out...for the first two years or so...all available treatment for her...when he was informed that she could never improve because her brain cortex is non-existent and is filled with spinal fluid he ceased seeking out treatment for her. Without growing a new brain cortex (has never happened in medical history) she is a hopeless case. Her parents refused to accept this decision and refused to accept the fact that their daughter cannot improve...as her cortex does not exist anymore.

                                                                    By law the husband has legal standing for his wife...if he did not exist...any adult children would have legal standing...if there were to be no adult children...then legal standing reverts back to the parents. They are last on the list. They cannot accept this fact either.
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                                                                      • theking
                                                                        Nice Kitty
                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                        • 21053
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Also her EEG is flatlined...which means that she has no significant brain activity. All she has left in her is reflexive movement...she...as a person is not there...she does not have a brain cortex.

                                                                        As for any monies involvled there different stories...but at least one story is that there is not any money that the husband will get...unless she has a life insurance policy. After the award...the attorneys got their share...the husband got his share...for loss of consortium...etc. there was approximately $200,000 put in trust for her care. There would be little if any money at all left in this trust...as it has been in use for a number of years.
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                                                                          • LadyMischief
                                                                            Orgasms N Such!
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 18135
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                            stop drinking the liberal kool aide.

                                                                            The husband stopped medical care and rehab for her shortly after she won 2.6 million dollars in a law suit.
                                                                            The parents wanted to continue rehab.
                                                                            After the so called husband finds a girlfriend, and stands to inherit a couple million, he remembers her saying she didn't want to live in a coma.
                                                                            There is no written evidence of this and no evidence that this wasn't just two people watching the "karen ann quinlan story" and one of them says, "I wouldn't want to live like this"

                                                                            And in what world do we live where the parents who have nothing to gain are wrong to want to rehab her but the husband who will inherit millions, upon her death, is right?

                                                                            I wasn't aware of that particular fact... That does change things a bit doesn't it?

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                                                                              • devilspost
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                • 3980
                                                                                #70
                                                                                the bush gang has 4 years to unplug us all yea! less government!!!

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                                                                                  • NichePay_Manny
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                    • 1833
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    We are spending too much tax payers money on this case.Let God handle it.

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                                                                                      • theking
                                                                                        Nice Kitty
                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                        • 21053
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                        I wasn't aware of that particular fact... That does change things a bit doesn't it?
                                                                                        It is not fact...he is mistaken.
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                                                                                          • benc
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                                            • 788
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            If there is no living will then the default decision should be to keep alive.

                                                                                            This guy has moved on to a new wife, children, etc, why does he want, essentially his ex-wife, dead so bad. Why does he care, he dosen't want her in his life. This girls family obviously wants her alive.

                                                                                            He just wants money, and closure while hes banging his new girl.
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                                                                                              • Pornwolf
                                                                                                Drunk and Unruly
                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                • 22712
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                What's sad is how the news media keeps stories like this in the public eye. This is a personal issue. I'm not really too concerned with it.

                                                                                                Lacey Peterson? Stuff like that happens so often it made no sense for it to be on every channel every day.

                                                                                                Talk to me about the important stuff like health insurance, gas prices, what new fuckstick the government is sticking up our asses today. That's the shit I want to know about that isn't being fully reported on.
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                                                                                                  • 12clicks
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                    • 19814
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                    It is not fact...he is mistaken.

                                                                                                    Pathfinder, you should no better than to question me.
                                                                                                    It's exactly fact.
                                                                                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                      • 12clicks
                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                                        • 19814
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        exactly.

                                                                                                        he'd be in quite a pickle explaining to his wife who this other girl and these two kids are.
                                                                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                          • mardigras
                                                                                                            Bon temps!
                                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                                            • 14194
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                            what is so tough for you to undestand? the law is and has been followed. numerous doctors have been involved and given the courts opinions. the courts have made a few rulings. its done. it's over. repeated rulings were made on this case over the years. the final decision is that she is in a "persistent, vegitative state". sorry. nothing illegal happened. the law is being followed. you are an emotional twit who does not seem to understand the legal system and how it works, yet want to make legal arguments. why not make it more interesting and start an even more meaningless debate on quantum mechanics or colliding atoms?

                                                                                                            you would sound much more intelligent if you would just say "i dont agree with this - thats just my opinion" and people could respect that. why highlight your ignorance by making rediculous statements and remarks about a legal system you apparently don't understand?
                                                                                                            You would sound much more intelligent if you researched what you are talking about rather than relying on TV soundbites.

                                                                                                            You do realize the husband has had the advantage of spending a significant amount of the money set aside for her care on legal actions? You can hire as many experts as you can afford to say what you want in court.

                                                                                                            There are too many people besides the family that say her condition has been misrepresented by her husband during legal actions and is being misrepresented in much of the media.

                                                                                                            Terri's behavior does not meet the medical or statutory definition of persistent vegetative state. Terri responds to stimuli, tries to communicate verbally, follows limited commands, laughs or cries in interaction with loved ones, physically distances herself from irritating or painful stimulation and watches loved ones as they move around her. None of these behaviors are simple reflexes and are, instead, voluntary and cognitive. Though Terri has limitations, she does interact purposefully with her environment.
                                                                                                            http://www.terrisfight.net/myths.html
                                                                                                            If the woman was lying comatose it would be one thing it but as long as there are people (including medical professionals that have been involved in her care) that say comments such as above, I don't agree with killing her, and if not agreeing with killing her until it's shown that any courts have actively investigated and disproven them makes me an "emotional twit" then so be it. At the very least they should do it quickly with drugs

                                                                                                            Here's some fat to chew on:

                                                                                                            http://www.propertyrightsresearch.or..._patients_.htm

                                                                                                            http://www.apfn.org/apfn/terri_michael.htm
                                                                                                            .

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                                                                                                              • tony299
                                                                                                                lurker
                                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                • 57021
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                Her husband sought out...for the first two years or so...all available treatment for her...when he was informed that she could never improve because her brain cortex is non-existent and is filled with spinal fluid he ceased seeking out treatment for her. Without growing a new brain cortex (has never happened in medical history) she is a hopeless case. Her parents refused to accept this decision and refused to accept the fact that their daughter cannot improve...as her cortex does not exist anymore.

                                                                                                                By law the husband has legal standing for his wife...if he did not exist...any adult children would have legal standing...if there were to be no adult children...then legal standing reverts back to the parents. They are last on the list. They cannot accept this fact either.
                                                                                                                Thank you King for once you and I agree

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                                                                                                                  • MetaMan
                                                                                                                    I AM WEB 2.0
                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                    • 28682
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    how is this sad at all? it is a good thing she is dying.

                                                                                                                    the sad thing is keeping a women alive in a chair for 15 years when her greedy parents just cant let go.

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                                                                                                                      • tony299
                                                                                                                        lurker
                                                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                        • 57021
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                        Gee, I guess the the house democrats got the memo too since about half of them voted to save her.
                                                                                                                        actually it was Although highly partisan, 47 Democrats joined 156 Republicans in voting for the bill.This speaks for itself .

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                                                                                                                          • Methodcash Rick
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                            • 1720
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                                                                                            What bothers me most about this, is that it's a cruel way to let someone die. If she wasn't breathing on her own, that's one thing... it would be quick and painless then. But now they have to wait for her to die of dehydration. I couldn't live with myself being responsible for someone dying like that. Not even convicted murderers on death row will die like that. She will suffer and she can't even communicate her pain to anyone. Breaks my heart.
                                                                                                                            In cases such as this, they do 1 of 2 things..

                                                                                                                            Either they put her in a drug induced coma, from which she'll never awake from, or they give her a morphine drip, do there is no pain..

                                                                                                                            She would never feel a thing...

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                                                                                                                              • HarlotCash Dyker
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                • 1828
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Why are the parents blowing all their cash on legal fees rather than taking this unfortunate lady to a country which has laws that prevent doctors from withdrawing nutrition to patients?
                                                                                                                                Most certainly the UK has these laws in effect and many more counties do, as well.
                                                                                                                                If the parents want to look after and care for this lady, how can a judge simple ignore that?
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                                                                                                                                  • theking
                                                                                                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                    • 21053
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
                                                                                                                                    Why are the parents blowing all their cash on legal fees rather than taking this unfortunate lady to a country which has laws that prevent doctors from withdrawing nutrition to patients?
                                                                                                                                    Most certainly the UK has these laws in effect and many more counties do, as well.
                                                                                                                                    If the parents want to look after and care for this lady, how can a judge simple ignore that?
                                                                                                                                    The parents do not have legal standing...the husband does.
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                                                                                                                                      • baddog
                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                        • 107089
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._damaged_woman


                                                                                                                                        What is the for? Are you trying to tell us you want to be kept on life support if you are nothing but a vegetable? I can maybe understand your not feeling there is any reason that an animal should die, but you have to at least allow veggies die.

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                                                                                                                                          • baddog
                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 107089
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by reynold
                                                                                                                                            Sad news.

                                                                                                                                            Only those that are afraid they might be diagnosed as being brain dead feel that way.

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                                                                                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                • 107089
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                                                                                                                She will suffer and she can't even communicate her pain to anyone. Breaks my heart.
                                                                                                                                                Morphine is a wonderful thing

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                                                                                                                                                  • baddog
                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                    • 107089
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                                    This is what all the hoopla is about. The husband says she would want to be let die and the courts so far agree with him. They say the family has no rights in the case.

                                                                                                                                                    The family is completely willing and are fighting to take her home but it's not going to happen.
                                                                                                                                                    Fucking people . . . are you married? Who do you think knows you better, your wife or your parents? You people on GFY know me better than my parents do.

                                                                                                                                                    Get a fucking clue. They want their little girl back, well, she is an adult now, and her husband knows better than they do.

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                                                                                                                                                      • baddog
                                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 107089
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Relish XXX
                                                                                                                                                        If that was my sister I would just pick her up, shove her in the car and plug her in at home then...easy problem solved.
                                                                                                                                                        I believe that is called kidnapping

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                                                                                                                                                          • HarlotCash Dyker
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                                            • 1828
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                                                            The parents do not have legal standing...the husband does.
                                                                                                                                                            Many things trouble me about this case -
                                                                                                                                                            1) This woman is not in a vegatative state relying on life support - She merely needs feeding to survive.
                                                                                                                                                            2) The person who has "legal standing" appears to have moved forward with another person in his life.
                                                                                                                                                            3) Is there to be an insurance payout in the event of this woman's death which may "improve" her husband's life?
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                                                                                                                                                              • theking
                                                                                                                                                                Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                • 21053
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
                                                                                                                                                                Many things trouble me about this case -
                                                                                                                                                                1) This woman is not in a vegatative state relying on life support - She merely needs feeding to survive.
                                                                                                                                                                2) The person who has "legal standing" appears to have moved forward with another person in his life.
                                                                                                                                                                3) Is there to be an insurance payout in the event of this woman's death which may "improve" her husband's life?
                                                                                                                                                                I have not heard anyone say...that could be in the know...if she has a life insurance policy or not. I believe that most married couples do...so it is possible.
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                                                                                                                                                                  • theking
                                                                                                                                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                    • 21053
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
                                                                                                                                                                    Many things trouble me about this case -
                                                                                                                                                                    1) This woman is not in a vegatative state relying on life support - She merely needs feeding to survive.
                                                                                                                                                                    2) The person who has "legal standing" appears to have moved forward with another person in his life.
                                                                                                                                                                    3) Is there to be an insurance payout in the event of this woman's death which may "improve" her husband's life?
                                                                                                                                                                    Actually she is in a vegatative state...she does not have a brain cortex. Her body lives but she is not there...and as far as pain...it has been reported that she does not feel pain. It has been reported that if she were to be pinched...etc. she would not feel it...because the cortex is the part of the brain that identifies pain.
                                                                                                                                                                    When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                                                                                                                                                                      • KRL
                                                                                                                                                                        Entrepreneur
                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                        • 31429
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                        What is the for? Are you trying to tell us you want to be kept on life support if you are nothing but a vegetable? I can maybe understand your not feeling there is any reason that an animal should die, but you have to at least allow veggies die.
                                                                                                                                                                        I just think the way this is going down is sad. Fucking put her to sleep if you want to kill her. What's up with this starving her to death? That is just fucked up.
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                                                                                                                                                                          • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                            • 107089
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                            I've also heard that medicare is footing the bill.
                                                                                                                                                                            and why the fuck should my tax dollars be wasted on this?

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                                                                                                                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                • 107089
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by LeeNoga
                                                                                                                                                                                I know, how do they know this, I dunno but after so many years and so many battles, I would think they are pretty confident of this.
                                                                                                                                                                                I bet those experiments on monkeys that KRL hates so much has proven this

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 107089
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                                                                    This is actually an extremely important legal case deciding who ultimately controls a person when they become incapacitated. . . . .But tomorrow any of us could be in a car accident and end up like this. Who will decide for you? Your spouse? Or your parents?

                                                                                                                                                                                    Exactly. Wake the fuck up. When she married the guy her parents lost any stranglehold they may think that they had over their child.

                                                                                                                                                                                    If I had a wife that was relying on her parents for our life decisions she would be out the door so fucking fast her head would spin.

                                                                                                                                                                                    So tell me, you have been married at least once (as I recall), do your parents still make all your life decisions? If so, grow up. If not, then start putting things into perspective. If she was a teenager I would agree with you, the parents have some say. As an adult they do not . . . married or not.

                                                                                                                                                                                    And they sure do not have any fucking say when MY tax dollars are at stake. Keeping her alive for their own selfishness, because they don't want to outlive their child.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Well, fuck them, it happens daily. Welcome to reality.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • axelcat
                                                                                                                                                                                        Adult Locals
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 25450
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        sad indeed

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 107089
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                            I too, had a family member in a coma. Doctors said to send him to a home and forget about him, he'd never recover.
                                                                                                                                                                                            My parents brought my brother home and today, he's 100% normal, husaband, father.

                                                                                                                                                                                            so please don't imagine I don't know what I'm talking about.
                                                                                                                                                                                            She is not in a coma. And was he braindead for 10 years?

                                                                                                                                                                                            Didn't think so.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Sorry buddy, we usually see things eye to eye, but this time you are wrong.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • uno
                                                                                                                                                                                                RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 18450
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by benc
                                                                                                                                                                                                If there is no living will then the default decision should be to keep alive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                This guy has moved on to a new wife, children, etc, why does he want, essentially his ex-wife, dead so bad. Why does he care, he dosen't want her in his life. This girls family obviously wants her alive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                He just wants money, and closure while hes banging his new girl.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Why do people keep repeating this argument? It makes no sense. Because the man went and moved on with his life he is supposed to forget the wishes of his former wife? I don't think so. If he cared about her once and still cares about her he should respect her wishes.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • menace
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 124
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                                                                                                                                                                    It's not voluntary movement...

                                                                                                                                                                                                    "Schiavo's cerebral cortex has been completely destroyed, replaced by spinal fluid; Dr. Ron Cranford, a neurologist at the University of Minnesota assessed Schiavo's brain function in 2001 as part of a court-ordered assessment. He was quoted in Florida Today as saying "[Schiavo] has no electrical activity in her cerebral cortex on an EEG (electroencephalogram), and a CT (computerized tomography) scan showed massive atrophy in that region."
                                                                                                                                                                                                    He is a court apointed doctor and not considered an expert in his field. The state of florida has just hired an expert to diagnose her and they have determined she is not in a persistant vegitative state. But rather in a state of minimal conciousness. So if you where kinda awake you would want us to starve you to death ? You should try going without food or water for 4 days and then post how you feel.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • theking
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 21053
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                                                                                        I just think the way this is going down is sad. Fucking put her to sleep if you want to kill her. What's up with this starving her to death? That is just fucked up.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        To the best of my knowledge Euthanasia is against the law in every state in the union...bar one.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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