he looks pretty fat for a kung fu teacher, i think he just likes to beat boys.
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For all you Kung Fu fans that missed this the other day, check out Black Belt TV, streaming martial arts classics online, kick em while you can
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Proven time and time again in numerous MMA events.Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
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That is a total classic. I have tears... lolOriginally posted by KRL
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Not to quibble, but MMA itself isn't just BJJ. It is a mixture of that consists of: Boxing, Muay Thai, Wrestling, Sambo, and BJJ.Originally posted by MarkTiarra
The biggest joke in MMA circles is that a BJJ Black Belt can knock someone out with a punch and his whole camp will be screaming ZZZZZHHHOOOO ZZZZHHHHIIITTTSSSUUUU!
Before anyone goes off on a tangent on me, I train in Jits.Last edited by Anthony; 03-22-2005, 12:44 PM.
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I can't beleive my eyes .That is some stuff.Comment
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Originally posted by dig420
Id still like to see Gracie go against a heavyweight boxer .. like Tyson in his prime... You see when Gracie charges the guy.. his head his down... A good lightning fast and powerfull heavywight boxer could have made him pay big time with an uppercut or two... (especially with those tiny ultimate fighting gloves)
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Originally posted by xxxdesign-netId still like to see Gracie go against a heavyweight boxer .. like Tyson in his prime... You see when Gracie charges the guy.. his head his down... A good lightning fast and powerfull heavywight boxer could have made him pay big time with an uppercut or two... (especially with those tiny ultimate fighting gloves)
Challenge was made to Tyson at his prime by Royce Gracie. Never accepted.
Before Royce, his father and founder of Gracie Jiu Jitsu Helio Gracie challenged the Brown Bomber Joe Louis, that was also never accepted.
If you think a good uppercut will stop a shoot when you are busy worrrying whether or not that kick thrown at you is gonna collapse your knee, then you are wrong.
A shoot is setup by a move or attack to put the opponent off balance.
Fighting 101.
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what a fuck :/Comment
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fucking gangster ass shit
no pussies coming out of that schoolComment
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Art Jimmerson and Butterbean have fought NHB, they got taken down. Jens Pulver is a pro boxer/MMA fighter, there are plenty of decent boxers that have tried their luck.Originally posted by xxxdesign-netId still like to see Gracie go against a heavyweight boxer .. like Tyson in his prime... You see when Gracie charges the guy.. his head his down... A good lightning fast and powerfull heavywight boxer could have made him pay big time with an uppercut or two... (especially with those tiny ultimate fighting gloves)
It's a fuck of a lot harder to hit someone on a shoot than you think, and it's even harder to knock them out with one shot. Boxing's great as long as the fight stays off the ground, but it rarely will. You have better luck catching someone shooting on you with a knee than with your fist.Comment
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btw, I used to think this too, until I started training and learned better for myself ;)Comment
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Most all of them will be pussies. Getting beaten does nothing for you physically and it destroys you mentally. Pro boxing and MMA training camps, classes in Gracie Academy and anywhere else people are being trained to fight at an elite level, the whole focus of the training is to maximize the fighter's confidence in himself, to make him feel like he is more dangerous than his opponent, WHOEVER that opponent may be. The goal is to build the fighter up, not tear him down.Originally posted by ytcracker
Kids that get beat by their parents usually turn out fucked up and conflict-averse. Fighters that get beat on in class get beat on in the ring.Comment
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edit: nevermind
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One of these days, he is going to hit the wrong person.
And that is a video that I would love to see.PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic
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Pity it's boring as hell to watch... also it's not exactly great if you're fighting more than one person.Originally posted by dig420Comment
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damn that kung-fu challenge guy got his arm broke !!
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any links?Originally posted by MarkTiarraI don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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yep. All these people think they can learn dim mak by taking a few classes.Basically KF is for guys who believe Bruce Lee was really a ninja, and they can learn the Touch of Death if they can only get thier palm vibrating fast enough. Their hobbies are getting fucked up by any drunk ex-marine in barfights LOLComment
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I watch boxing for entertainment, I train in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu for self defense.Originally posted by bhutocracy
NOTHING is good for multiple attackers if they attack you like they mean it. You're going down, and that's it. I'd still rather use Jits to try to break an arm quick and go to the next guy than match myself up against 4 or 6 fists trying to hit me at once on my feet, but basically if they attack you hard and really come at you you're done. Fortunately, this doesn't happen often. Most multiple attacker situations end up like the one with the skater dude above. They really don't want to fight, they just want to scare someone and when someone fights back they show their true colors.Comment
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Go to google and type in NHB. Or 'Gracie Family'. or MMA or fighting or anything like that. More links than you could possibly go thru in a year.Originally posted by polish_aristocratComment
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hehe that's Mike VallelyOriginally posted by KRLLOL this one is funny too. 5 punks called this skater a Fag. Big mistake.
ttp://www.big-boys.com/articles/skaterfight.html
http://www.mikevallely.com/
he's a tough mofo....pro-skater too...mmm my sig was too big... no more cool animation
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ok, thanks, i am not into fighting at all, and these terms dont tell me anything, but i will take a lookOriginally posted by dig420I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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I'm a big boxing/muay thai fan. Self defense wise I did zen shi ryu with a bit of muay thai and dirty street fighting type stuff. To be honest as long as you learn some type of martial art you'll be ok in a fight, it's not as if your local bar brawl is full of black belts.Originally posted by dig420
But yeah im not disputing the effectiveness of the style, just UFC bores the shit outta me when the grappling comes into effect.Comment
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LOL, I love the exercise bike bit! And going into the back room of the supermarket to bash up a carcass!Originally posted by KRLComment
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Originally posted by dig420
nuff said...
Its like saying.. Hevander Holyfield beat the crap out of you.. so the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is crap...
Look.. if you are gonna take the best in one discipline.. you need to to oppose it againts the best in another... Butterbean is a circus act.. my grandfather is faster tha him...
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That's a badass video!#27024067Comment
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Oh my god!! Look close and you can see guys with guns to the students heads making them stay there.
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Thank you.Originally posted by Anthony
All these other idiots arguing which martial art is better and they can't even identify Muay Thai when they see it. Getting the shit kicked out of you is part of Muay Thai training, especially in Thailand which is where this clip was taken from the looks of it.Comment
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You and Nic Cage have something in common. He trains with Gracie as well. He used to do moves on my that Gracie had taught him.Originally posted by dig420
Nic said that if he were ever in a bar and people started shit with him that he'd be able to take them down. And all the while I kept thinking, 1) when would Nic ever be ina bar by himself?? and 2) who would ever start shit with him? He was one of the coolest guys I ever worked with.
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Originally posted by Anthony
In the particular video posted in this thread... A boxer like Tyson in his prime would have made Gracie pay dearly the way he charged the guy with his head down... bottom line.
As for being afraid of a blow to the knee.. of course.. if a fight happen... the boxer should be trained for at least 2 months, in trying to avoid those, and find ways to counter the chargers...
Not saying an top speedy heavywight boxer would win everytime ... But as a good chance to win everytime..Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 03-23-2005, 09:04 AM.Comment
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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
If you think 2 months is enough time to stop the whole arsenal of take downs that Jits have, then again, you are wrong.
You saw one takedown, which is the double leg or omote gari in judo. I'm not arguing the fact that damage will be done to take shoot on say Tyson. I'd be an idiot.
Look how many times in Boxing a clinch happens. That is what a grappler wants, to get in real close, from there, taking down an untrained, or rather a 2 month trained boxer is quite easy.
Style versus style was proven over 10 years ago in the octagon. Art Jimmerson, a top 10 fighter, once taken down to the ground by Royce Gracie, tapped not to a submission, not to strikes, but because he couldn't breathe and did not know what to do with someone sitting on his chest.
Enough said.
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i like the gracies but i love watching Sakuraba "the gracie killer" destroy every one of them in the ring. those are some killer fights. hasn't he beat like all of them?Originally posted by dig420Last edited by sternyduke; 03-23-2005, 09:58 AM.Comment
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Originally posted by Anthony
Sorry but Art Jimmerson never was a top 10 boxer... He never beat anyone remotly good.. and since he sarted real fights.. 10 or 12 rounds.. he got KOed EVERYTIME within the first 3 rounds...
Heres his carreer record
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=002044
So please people .. stop using Art Jimmerson and Butterbean as proof that top heavyweight boxers cannot beat a top JJ fighter...Comment
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for the record: im not talking about todays top heavyweight boxers... Only Klitchko is remotely good.. and he is way to tall and slow to beat any JJ experts..Comment
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Don't have the patience to go through jimmerson's record on that link regarding his status back in 1993, so I'll let it go.Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
There is a plethora of empirical data tha supports that strikers of any type will lose to a grappler 9 times out of 10. Earlier MMA fights proved it time and time again. That's why they are referred to now as MIXED Martial Arts. Boxing deals with just one range, once taken out of it, boxing is useless. ie. on the ground.
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For the record, Butter bean lost to a 155lbs MMA fighter by the name of Genki Sudo.
It was a farce, watching that fight.
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well i understand trying to teach but that seemed a just a little more then excessive
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Just got this from Bullshido.com regarding the original clip.
That trainer used to be the original,
legendary Tiger Mask. His name was
Satoru Sayama.
I wonder what Japanese fans think of his
attitude in training these guys.
Though Muay Thai Kicks are used by Sayama and his students, that's actually not in Thailand. It's in Japan, and it's a Shooto school, or what the Japanese have for MMA.
From my understanding he is a brutal teacher, but produces champions.
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