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  • NaughtyRob
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    • Nov 2004
    • 29602
    #1

    If you launched a solo girl site what would you consider "successful"?

    In another post we were discussing "successful".
    Successful for me could mean 5 sign ups per day. For someone else it might mean 20 per day etc.

    What would you consider a success?
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    • Nickless
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      • Aug 2003
      • 1955
      #2
      hm i was doing 10+ signups as an affiliate, so anything below 30 after the first few months is a failure

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        • Illicit
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          • Dec 2003
          • 11895
          #3
          anything above what it costs to get the site up is a success
          Insert Sig Here

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            • Nickless
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              • Aug 2003
              • 1955
              #4
              Originally posted by Illicit
              anything above what it costs to get the site up is a success
              you just killed a perfectly good thread

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                • NaughtyRob
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                  • Nov 2004
                  • 29602
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Nickless
                  you just killed a perfectly good thread
                  Not really. Just his opinion. Some people would be pissed if they didnt make way above what they paid to launch it.
                  In my case the cost would be VERY minimal to launch a site.
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                    • vapewiz
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                      • Nov 2002
                      • 1530
                      #6
                      Originally posted by ContentProducer
                      In another post we were discussing "successful".
                      Successful for me could mean 5 sign ups per day. For someone else it might mean 20 per day etc.

                      What would you consider a success?
                      Are you for real 5 joins a day... damn good luck being "successful".

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                        • DarkJedi
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                          • Feb 2001
                          • 28301
                          #7
                          Originally posted by ContentProducer
                          Successful for me could mean 5 sign ups per day.

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                            • Stacey_JoinRightNow
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 6269
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Illicit
                              anything above what it costs to get the site up is a success
                              this statement says it all...i agree on that

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                                • 2HousePlague
                                  CURATOR
                                  • Jul 2004
                                  • 14572
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Illicit
                                  anything above what it costs to get the site up is a success


                                  ($ Profit / Time Spent) > Having Done Something Else



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                                    • Jace
                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 35562
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by cutetwink
                                      Are you for real 5 joins a day... damn good luck being "successful".
                                      that really isn't a bad goal to reach in reality...i know one certain affiliate manager that icq'ed me a while back begging me to send traffic...he said his goal for each site was to have 5 sign ups a day for each site...and this is a program that everyone thinks is HUGE, but just looks that way, they really aren't

                                      really...if you have a single girl site doing
                                      5 joins a day @ $24.95= $124.95 a day
                                      approx $3724/month
                                      $44910/year
                                      hosting=less than $200
                                      leaving $42510
                                      -billing fees 15% (max)
                                      left with approx $36,000

                                      while this may not be successful in your standards, there are a lot of people that would love to be making $36,000 just to get fucked on camera...or even POSE on camera for that matter

                                      there is nowhere to go from there but up if you play your cards right....

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                                        • DirtyDanza
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 8375
                                          #11
                                          anything below 50-60 signups aday I would not waste my time
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                                            • DarkJedi
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                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 28301
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                              left with approx $36,000
                                              yeah, and then you pay 60% to affiliates

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                                                • xclusive
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                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                  • 35218
                                                  #13
                                                  at least a %15 increase month over month in my bottom line and i'd be happy with my investment.

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                                                    • Jace
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                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 35562
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                      yeah, and then you pay 60% to affiliates
                                                      that is if you use affiliates as your main source of traffic...i know my paysite doesn't...no offense to affiliates, but i would rather work to get on the top of SE's than give out 60% of the money

                                                      you all have this mindset that affiliates are the be all end all to paysite traffic...and a lot of time that isn't the case...and any smart program knows this too and pushes their sites hard to get non-affiliate sales

                                                      my adding up above was based on no affiliate sales....i actually didn't even take into account if a girl had an affiliate program too

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                                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 30307
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                          yeah, and then you pay 60% to affiliates
                                                          And thats where the pain begins
                                                          So ya will need 6 sites doing 5 each a day

                                                          SWEEET!@

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                                                            • vapewiz
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 1530
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                              that really isn't a bad goal to reach in reality...i know one certain affiliate manager that icq'ed me a while back begging me to send traffic...he said his goal for each site was to have 5 sign ups a day for each site...and this is a program that everyone thinks is HUGE, but just looks that way, they really aren't

                                                              really...if you have a single girl site doing
                                                              5 joins a day @ $24.95= $124.95 a day
                                                              approx $3724/month
                                                              $44910/year
                                                              hosting=less than $200
                                                              leaving $42510
                                                              -billing fees 15% (max)
                                                              left with approx $36,000

                                                              while this may not be successful in your standards, there are a lot of people that would love to be making $36,000 just to get fucked on camera...or even POSE on camera for that matter

                                                              there is nowhere to go from there but up if you play your cards right....
                                                              In this biz less then 100k/yr is not a successful program/site imho. I'm not rich and i'm no topbucks or adult.com. If you want to run paysites and you think 5 joins a day is a good goal... wrong.

                                                              As for affiliate managers they are the same as sig whores. They couldn't make the money on their own and need to annoy us all on icq for 5 joins a day to sites that don't convert. So they can make a grand a month.

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                                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 30307
                                                                  #17
                                                                  I am with JaceXXX on this though.

                                                                  Loosing 50% to 60% or even 70% to affilaites is not to wise OMHO.
                                                                  Especially with exclusive shiot.

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                                                                    • Mutt
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 34431
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                      yeah, and then you pay 60% to affiliates
                                                                      and that's why nobody should ever rely on affiliates too much.

                                                                      provided a girl has the looks, with a good day's work and that's not 3 or 4 hours, minimum a regular working day of 7-8 hours, she should be able to do 5 signups a day on her own - not easy but doable with effort. The affiliate revenue should be the icing on top.

                                                                      10 signups a day on a single girl site i consider a success. 20-25 is very very good. 50 plus is for superstars - and it's a handful of single girl sites that are in that class.

                                                                      easily the most least understood niche in this business. I like Steve - he didn't do it intentionally but he's created this myth that single girl sites are a
                                                                      goldmine. With the right girls, the right execution and the right networking they are a profitable business.

                                                                      I'd like CCBILL to show some leadership and responsibility and stop approving single girl sites that are substandard. And that would be about 75% of them.
                                                                      15 photosets of a model isn't a website - it's a scam. Minimum 40 sets should be on the site before it gets approved and CCBILL should see that there are 60 more in the can minimally for updates. Nobody in this industry ever thinks about the millions of customers who've been lost.
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                                                                        • uno
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                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 18450
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by 2HousePlague


                                                                          ($ Profit / Time Spent) > Having Done Something Else



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                                                                            • bigdog
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                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 6964
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                              and that's why nobody should ever rely on affiliates too much.

                                                                              provided a girl has the looks, with a good day's work and that's not 3 or 4 hours, minimum a regular working day of 7-8 hours, she should be able to do 5 signups a day on her own - not easy but doable with effort. The affiliate revenue should be the icing on top.

                                                                              10 signups a day on a single girl site i consider a success. 20-25 is very very good. 50 plus is for superstars - and it's a handful of single girl sites that are in that class.

                                                                              easily the most least understood niche in this business. I like Steve - he didn't do it intentionally but he's created this myth that single girl sites are a
                                                                              goldmine. With the right girls, the right execution and the right networking they are a profitable business.

                                                                              I'd like CCBILL to show some leadership and responsibility and stop approving single girl sites that are substandard. And that would be about 75% of them.
                                                                              15 photosets of a model isn't a website - it's a scam. Minimum 40 sets should be on the site before it gets approved and CCBILL should see that there are 60 more in the can minimally for updates. Nobody in this industry ever thinks about the millions of customers who've been lost.
                                                                              that would really suck if ccbill got that much involved into peoples sites.

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                                                                                • HarlotCash Dyker
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                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                  • 1828
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  There are some good wise comments in this thread - And some really stupid comments -

                                                                                  Success is not HOW MANY sign ups a day -
                                                                                  A site gaining 50-60 a day with crap retention means hard work mailing and cross selling to make cash -

                                                                                  A site getting only 5 sales a day with a very high rention and return ratio will bring in a couple of hundred thousand dollars profit very easily.
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                                                                                    • vapewiz
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                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                      • 1530
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                                      that would really suck if ccbill got that much involved into peoples sites.
                                                                                      Why? If there was a set standard for the amount of content one needed to have a site processed by ccbill. If you join a site that only had 15 sets of pics for $29.95 wouldn't u be pissed?

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                                                                                        • 2HousePlague
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                                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                                          • 14572
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          The simplistic asking of this question glosses-over a number of important "givens" we'd have to know before being able to answer intelligently...

                                                                                          How much start-up capital? Debt service? Pre-existing traffic sources? Do you have a production contract with the girl -- or did you just pick up a bunch of content? Exclusivity? Is the site supported by staff you already have -- or are you hiring (including yourself)? Is it your first and only site -- or are you adding a site to a portfolio of sites? Are you sourcing traffic separately for this site? What is the cross-sell potential of that traffic against your other products? Will cannabalization be a factor? ETC, ETC...

                                                                                          But it does force us to consider the definition of "success" for one of our industry's "workhorse" business models.

                                                                                          All the above questions and considerations notwithstanding, I'd have to say you have a "successful" site if you can clear enough with it (in net profit) after a year to subsidize 50% of the aggregate traffic acquisition costs.



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                                                                                            • emthree
                                                                                              Dialer Kingpin
                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 10816
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                                              that would really suck if ccbill got that much involved into peoples sites.
                                                                                              It does suck on a certain level, but will definitely raise the bar for wannabe webmasters/paysite owners.
                                                                                              This industry is something that is too easily penetrated which is currently still a good thing for diversity and competition, but in 10 years the same cannot be said.

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                                                                                                • SteveLightspeed
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 7940
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                  I like Steve
                                                                                                  who me? I've never told anyone that solo girl sites are easy, or even profitable. There is an overlooked secret to success with solo girl sites, and I'm going to divulge it during my seminar at Phoenix Forum.

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                                                                                                    • After Shock Media
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                                                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                                                      • 35299
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                                                      who me? I've never told anyone that solo girl sites are easy, or even profitable. There is an overlooked secret to success with solo girl sites, and I'm going to divulge it during my seminar at Phoenix Forum.

                                                                                                      Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                                      Will you respond in your seminar thread you started yesterday please.

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                                                                                                        • Mutt
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                          • 34431
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                                                          who me? I've never told anyone that solo girl sites are easy, or even profitable. There is an overlooked secret to success with solo girl sites, and I'm going to divulge it during my seminar at Phoenix Forum.

                                                                                                          Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                                          hehee - who else is named Steve and matters in this niche?
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                                                                                                            • CybermedAndy
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                                                                                                              • Jul 2004
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                                                              who me? I've never told anyone that solo girl sites are easy, or even profitable. There is an overlooked secret to success with solo girl sites, and I'm going to divulge it during my seminar at Phoenix Forum.

                                                                                                              Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                                              See you there- I'll be front row center.

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                                                                                                                • Shooting_Manic
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                                                                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                  • 1740
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  All about the profit margin. Nothing to do with how many joins. I know a few guys that do 50 joins a day that only have affiliate traffic and they over pay their models. Thats not successful.

                                                                                                                  I know other guys that do 20 or more joins a day in each of their sites with 50% of their joins from their own traffic. They dont over pay their models and actually make great money at the end of the month. Thats what I consider successful.

                                                                                                                  There is no magic, just good business sense. Cute model helps too.

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                                                                                                                    • The Heron
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                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      An NPV > or = 0 is a good investment

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                                                                                                                        • MandyBlake
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                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                          • 17761
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by cutetwink
                                                                                                                          In this biz less then 100k/yr is not a successful program/site imho. I'm not rich and i'm no topbucks or adult.com. If you want to run paysites and you think 5 joins a day is a good goal... wrong.

                                                                                                                          As for affiliate managers they are the same as sig whores. They couldn't make the money on their own and need to annoy us all on icq for 5 joins a day to sites that don't convert. So they can make a grand a month.
                                                                                                                          but if you are consistently getting 5 signups a day and retaining those members, then you are definitely going to eventually do 100k/yr.
                                                                                                                          you can get 20 sales a day everyday and if you don't retain those members you're starting from scratch every month.
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                                                                                                                            • alan-l
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                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                              • 2477
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                                                              that really isn't a bad goal to reach in reality...i know one certain affiliate manager that icq'ed me a while back begging me to send traffic...he said his goal for each site was to have 5 sign ups a day for each site...and this is a program that everyone thinks is HUGE, but just looks that way, they really aren't

                                                                                                                              really...if you have a single girl site doing
                                                                                                                              5 joins a day @ $24.95= $124.95 a day
                                                                                                                              approx $3724/month
                                                                                                                              $44910/year
                                                                                                                              hosting=less than $200
                                                                                                                              leaving $42510
                                                                                                                              -billing fees 15% (max)
                                                                                                                              left with approx $36,000

                                                                                                                              while this may not be successful in your standards, there are a lot of people that would love to be making $36,000 just to get fucked on camera...or even POSE on camera for that matter

                                                                                                                              there is nowhere to go from there but up if you play your cards right....

                                                                                                                              you forgot a 50% retention which adds month per month. Not going to do the maths, but the figure would be quite higher and very interesting for a single site, if you continue adding sites, you'd end racking some dosh. Of course, you'd have affiliates, but if you've your own traffic sources, then you can be very happy with 5 steady sign ups a day for single girl sites where the content production costs is minimal since the guy shoots it himself. Just my

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                                                                                                                                • Chio The Pirate
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                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by 2HousePlague


                                                                                                                                  ($ Profit / Time Spent) > Having Done Something Else



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                                                                                                                                    • Alex
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                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 10963
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                                                                      really...if you have a single girl site doing
                                                                                                                                      5 joins a day @ $24.95= $124.95 a day
                                                                                                                                      approx $3724/month
                                                                                                                                      $44910/year
                                                                                                                                      hosting=less than $200
                                                                                                                                      leaving $42510
                                                                                                                                      -billing fees 15% (max)
                                                                                                                                      left with approx $36,000
                                                                                                                                      We are using the word successful. Not profitable

                                                                                                                                      Yes that is a nice profit.

                                                                                                                                      But you fail to count that you ahve to update with a set a week

                                                                                                                                      One set to the model is what? $500 at min?

                                                                                                                                      SO thats a min of $26,000 a year
                                                                                                                                      And assuming its all your traffic

                                                                                                                                      You make $10,000 a year minus time/cost to generate that traffic

                                                                                                                                      Not successfull ay all.

                                                                                                                                      For 10k a year, go run a TGP
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                                                                                                                                        • Jace
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                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 35562
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Alex
                                                                                                                                          We are using the word successful. Not profitable

                                                                                                                                          Yes that is a nice profit.

                                                                                                                                          But you fail to count that you ahve to update with a set a week

                                                                                                                                          One set to the model is what? $500 at min?

                                                                                                                                          SO thats a min of $26,000 a year
                                                                                                                                          And assuming its all your traffic

                                                                                                                                          You make $10,000 a year minus time/cost to generate that traffic

                                                                                                                                          Not successfull ay all.

                                                                                                                                          For 10k a year, go run a TGP
                                                                                                                                          i was making the assumption the girl was starting the site herself and she owned it, did all the design and handle shit herself....cause if your starting a site nowadays and don't do it that way, your kind of dumb IMO

                                                                                                                                          and I also only added it up for one month worth of revenue....my mistake on that....i forgot retention, and furture months at 5 joins a day....wqhich, as stated above, if you have excellent retention, can add up to some nice #'s..just on 5 joins a day

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                                                                                                                                            • Alex
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                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 10963
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                                                                              i was making the assumption the girl was starting the site herself and she owned it, did all the design and handle shit herself....cause if your starting a site nowadays and don't do it that way, your kind of dumb IMO

                                                                                                                                              and I also only added it up for one month worth of revenue....my mistake on that....i forgot retention, and furture months at 5 joins a day....wqhich, as stated above, if you have excellent retention, can add up to some nice #'s..just on 5 joins a day

                                                                                                                                              Even so. $36k. Make it 45k if you count rebills. Isnt that profitable.

                                                                                                                                              And sending 5 sales a day on your own while do all the back work can take more than 8hrs day

                                                                                                                                              Might as well go 9-5.

                                                                                                                                              5 sales a day is not sucessfull.

                                                                                                                                              Solo girl sites reatain only beause of constant updats and member interction

                                                                                                                                              A lot of time must be put in.
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                                                                                                                                                • sweetcuties
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                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  All about profit... I don't believe the; "yea, I'm doing 100 su's a day consistantly..." line. There's very few people doing major su's daily, whether it's a single or multi site

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                                                                                                                                                    • Jace
                                                                                                                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 35562
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Alex
                                                                                                                                                      Even so. $36k. Make it 45k if you count rebills. Isnt that profitable.

                                                                                                                                                      And sending 5 sales a day on your own while do all the back work can take more than 8hrs day

                                                                                                                                                      Might as well go 9-5.

                                                                                                                                                      5 sales a day is not sucessfull.

                                                                                                                                                      Solo girl sites reatain only beause of constant updats and member interction

                                                                                                                                                      A lot of time must be put in.
                                                                                                                                                      if you look at statistics of US population, $45,000 a year for 40 hours work is above national average...so, in majority of the worlds population, $45,000 a year is VERY successful

                                                                                                                                                      i would not like to make that amount, i have grown accustomed to my salary, but lots of people would love that amount of money

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                                                                                                                                                        • bigdog
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                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                                                                                          if you look at statistics of US population, $45,000 a year for 40 hours work is above national average...so, in majority of the worlds population, $45,000 a year is VERY successful

                                                                                                                                                          i would not like to make that amount, i have grown accustomed to my salary, but lots of people would love that amount of money

                                                                                                                                                          Good point, webmasters don't live in the real world and forget what other people make, not everyone makes 40k+ a month

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                                                                                                                                                            • Jace
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                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                              • 35562
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                                                                                                              Good point, webmasters don't live in the real world and forget what other people make, not everyone makes 40k+ a month

                                                                                                                                                              i know a lot of people my age working normal jobs that would love to be making $40-45k a year....some of them have a hard time hanging out with me cause they get all insecure when I am able to go wherever whenever and buy what I want...it is a real ego deflater for normal folks

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                                                                                                                                                                • InkedUpMess
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  As long as I know I don't have to work a "day job"....... I'm cool
                                                                                                                                                                  SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Peter Romero
                                                                                                                                                                      Long time no happy ending
                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 10604
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Not surprising that no-one in this thread (and hardly in the internet biz) mentions anything about Video & DVD rights for sale. I made more from that than my site this last few years and my site has became my resume. Not so this year, as they will switch in profit percentage with my new business model and I become more SE saavy and gain more & more affiliates & experience. But, as a whole I'd have to stick with the simple math of profit above costs & retention as a bonus for taking the risk on owning & shooting a porn site. Join numbers are irrelivant from below the profit margin or from a jail cell.


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                                                                                                                                                                        • Peter Romero
                                                                                                                                                                          Long time no happy ending
                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 10604
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                                                                                                          i know a lot of people my age working normal jobs that would love to be making $40-45k a year....some of them have a hard time hanging out with me cause they get all insecure when I am able to go wherever whenever and buy what I want...it is a real ego deflater for normal folks
                                                                                                                                                                          Oh... you grasshopper be big pimpin since I met ago you long time luvva


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                                                                                                                                                                            • MsCheyenne
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                                                              • 412
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by ContentProducer
                                                                                                                                                                              In another post we were discussing "successful".
                                                                                                                                                                              Successful for me could mean 5 sign ups per day. For someone else it might mean 20 per day etc.

                                                                                                                                                                              What would you consider a success?
                                                                                                                                                                              If you are producing your own content and do not have affiliates to pay, I believe that is successful...especially if you enjoying yourself and working on the site in your spare time. How many people would love to have a part time job that nets over 4k a month (and that isn't counting rebills.)

                                                                                                                                                                              Cheyenne

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Mutt
                                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 34431
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  people in this biz who do make a decent living do forget how fortunate they are. my sister gets up each morning at 7 am, has to shower and put on decent clothes, drive or ride the bus for half an hour, sit in a cubicle for 8 hours and go home in rush hour traffic. she makes 40K/year. and there are millions of people like her - many with a family to feed.

                                                                                                                                                                                  if you can make more at some other job/career then you should do it - 90% of people in this biz couldn't make the same money in any other job.
                                                                                                                                                                                  I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Peter Romero
                                                                                                                                                                                      Long time no happy ending
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 10604
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                                                                                                      people in this biz who do make a decent living do forget how fortunate they are. my sister gets up each morning at 7 am, has to shower and put on decent clothes, drive or ride the bus for half an hour, sit in a cubicle for 8 hours and go home in rush hour traffic. she makes 40K/year. and there are millions of people like her - many with a family to feed.

                                                                                                                                                                                      if you can make more at some other job/career then you should do it - 90% of people in this biz couldn't make the same money in any other job.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks for the attitude adjustment Mutt. Every day is a new oportunity to re-invent myself.


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