Since I'm unaware of exactly how many surfers there are here on GFY, I'm not entirely qualified to say whether there's too many. I'm not denying there's a significant percentage, of course.
But speaking from the perspective of both a webmaster and producer, I don't mind the presence of surfers - I just don't appreciate the blatantly dumbass ones who come across as little more than imbeciles and fools. But those types exist on both sides of the spectrum.
GFY touts itself as a place 'where the industry meets'. Aren't surfers (some of which are undoubtedly paying members and supporters of our respective websites) part of the industry equation? Is their feedback and constructive input not of genuine value to webmasters and content producers?
It'll be argued that this is a 'webmaster only' forum, and not a place for surfers. Okay, fine. But I have to ask - what kind of a webmaster conducts business in a vacuum of feedback? How do you track trends? Or the preferences of your clientele?
I've been producing original content since 1995 and running paysites since 1999. We have a decade under our belts. And while I don't fool myself into thinking I know it all (lord knows I've likely forgotten more than I've learned over the years)...one thing I do know is that the more successful webmasters among us LISTEN to those who support their efforts...while acknowledging that our industry is a symbiotic relationship.
One wouldn't exist without the other.
Of course, the final say is up to the owners and admin of GFY - as to what direction they want the forum to go. I just don't see the benefits of making it totally exclusive.
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Last edited by SilentKnight; 06-23-2006, 12:06 PM.
Since I'm unaware of exactly how many surfers there are here on GFY, I'm not entirely qualified to say whether there's too many. I'm not denying there's a significant percentage, of course.
But speaking from the perspective of both a webmaster and producer, I don't mind the presence of surfers - I just don't appreciate the blatantly dumbass ones who come across as little more than imbeciles and fools. But those types exist on both sides of the spectrum.
GFY touts itself as a place 'where the industry meets'. Aren't surfers (some of which are undoubtedly paying members and supporters of our respective websites) part of the industry equation? Is their feedback and constructive input not of genuine value to webmasters and content producers?
It'll be argued that this is a 'webmaster only' forum, and not a place for surfers. Okay, fine. But I have to ask - what kind of a webmaster conducts business in a vacuum of feedback? How do you track trends? Or the preferences of your clientele?
I've been producing original content since 1995 and running paysites since 1999. We have a decade under our belts. And while I don't fool myself into thinking I know it all (lord knows I've likely forgotten more than I've learned over the years)...one thing I do know is that the more successful webmasters among us LISTEN to those who support their efforts...while acknowledging that our industry is a symbiotic relationship.
One wouldn't exist without the other.
Of course, the final say is up to the owners and admin of GFY - as to what direction they want the forum to go. I just don't see the benefits of making it totally exclusive.
My
I completely disagree with what you said
the surfers here are 16 year old kids ( like kak azn 1 year ago ) posting the most useless shit cause they are bored, and not a few selected experienced porn users giving their feedback to paysite owners or content producers
it is hard to verify someones age on here - but a good start would be adding only those who are referred by someone you know within the industry. This has got to stop - surfers pretending to work in the industry slamming and talking shit as though they making millions.
we need to call them out and if they can't provide proof of their employment or meaningfulness in the adult community.. ban them
the surfers here are 16 year old kids ( like kak azn 1 year ago ) posting the most useless shit cause they are bored, and not a few selected experienced porn users giving their feedback to paysite owners or content producers
I'm sure you're partly right, and I don't doubt there's a lot of bored youngsters wanting to schmooze with webmasters and whatnot. I can understand the allure. But I also tend to think your observation is rather based on generality.
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