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  • Rochard
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    • Dec 2001
    • 75761
    #1

    Gas prices and a question about gas....

    Last night I filled up my tank and was hit with a $2.36 per gallon price. Ouch.

    Here's my question:

    I live in Phoenix, our gas is made in California, and we have one pipeline that supplies gas to Phoenix. Last summer this single pipeline broke and was shut down, closing down gas stations for nearly two weeks - Phoenix had no gas to buy anywhere.

    So our gas all comes through one pipeline, and is sold by all the different gas stations locally. Does this mean the gas I buy at the AM/PM is the same exact gas as what I buy at Chevron or Exxon?
    Herschel Savage
    Brooklyn, NY
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    • azguy
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2004
      • 5167
      #2
      I was also surprised to see 2.37 last night here. Dunno about the pipes.

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        • Jaymus.
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2005
          • 304
          #3
          The gas is the almost the same from copany to company. Some companies have a slightly higher octane level than others and some have additives for anti-pollution/cleaner burning properties.

          The biggest difference in gas is dependent on the area that it's in. Ie. The gas you buy in Florida is much different than the gas you buy in Alaska, it's made to combust at different temperatures/altitudes.

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            • Neal
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              • Nov 2004
              • 243
              #4
              I guess living in the states is good for gas prices as it's $7.00 a gallon in the UK....
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                • Peaches
                  Old broad
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 13933
                  #5
                  It's $2.07 regular where I live. BUT in the next town south a new Kroger opened and is selling gas for $1.79 so at least 2 other places in that town are selling for the same price It's on my way to Atlanta so I time it where I can fill up there.

                  Since we're considered a "resort" area, we're almost always 10-15 cents a gallon higher than the burbs of Atlanta. And you know it doesn't cost any more to get it to here than it does to Atlanta.

                  BTW, just talked to my son in Japan - he's buying gas on base for $2.06! Incredible - it's about $3.50 off base.

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                    • The Stickman
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                      • Nov 2004
                      • 263
                      #6
                      South Florida Gas
                      Low - $2.19
                      Mid - $2.29
                      High - $2.39



                      Word has it that High Grade will hit $3.00 by Xmas! Nice frickin present!
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                        • Barefootsies
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                          • Feb 2005
                          • 42635
                          #7
                          Michigan gas

                          $2.39/2.26 a gallon.

                          As for your question,.. each state ironically enough has different restrictions on gasoline. For example, Cali gas has to be much cleaner than a lot of other states, but then there are a number of different factors. Some has diffferent octanes, and cleaner additives, etc.

                          So the short answer would be no, all gas is not the same.

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                            • Krusty
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                              • Dec 2002
                              • 374
                              #8
                              shit.. you americans have NOTHING to complain about these days.... seriously.. Australia's up to averages btwn 85c and 110c a Litre which i think is like $3 and above.. poor UK bastards though!!!

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                                • tony299
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                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 57021
                                  #9
                                  We need to find alt fuels and get off the black heroin

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                                    • MandyBlake
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                                      • Nov 2002
                                      • 17761
                                      #10
                                      i have no idea...but 2.37???? damn! we're known here in ga for having some of the lowest gas prices in the country and we're at around $2-2.05 here~!
                                      it's insane.
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                                        • EroticySteve
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                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 4365
                                          #11
                                          This is ridiculous. My truck gets 17 mpg avg. This blows. I remember the days of sub $1.00 gallons of gas. That wasn't that long ago.

                                          Something has to give. There is no reason why gas should be $2.00+ a gallon.
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                                            • Peaches
                                              Old broad
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 13933
                                              #12
                                              The cost of gas really isn't high compared to inflation. In March of 1981, gasoline cost $3.08 a gallon, adjusted for inflation.

                                              Also different states impose different taxes. For instance, GA has one of the lowest taxes on gas.

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                                                • Rochard
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                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                  • 75761
                                                  #13
                                                  Back to my question - The gas I buy at Exxon is the same I'd buy at any other gas station here in PHoenix?
                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                    • IDBW-NOC
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                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                      • 71
                                                      #14
                                                      My gas is $2.53
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                                                        • Peaches
                                                          Old broad
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 13933
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by RocHard
                                                          Back to my question - The gas I buy at Exxon is the same I'd buy at any other gas station here in PHoenix?
                                                          Yes. Buy the cheapest gas you can find.

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                                                            • KRL
                                                              Entrepreneur
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 31429
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by RocHard
                                                              Back to my question - The gas I buy at Exxon is the same I'd buy at any other gas station here in PHoenix?
                                                              Where did you get that info on the pipeline. Maybe natural gas is piped into on a single line. But I highly doubt all the liquid petroleum for a city as big as Phoenix is coming in on a single pipeline.

                                                              And no, refined gas from one refinery is not mixed with another oil company's.
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                                                                • Peaches
                                                                  Old broad
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 13933
                                                                  #17
                                                                  From http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/brochure/gas04/gasoline.htm

                                                                  Can I tell which country or State the gasoline at my local station comes from?

                                                                  The Energy Information Administration (EIA) cannot definitively say where gasoline at a given station originated since EIA does not collect data on the source of the gasoline sold at retail outlets. The name on the service station sign does not tell the whole story. The fact that you purchase gasoline from a given company does not necessarily mean that the gasoline was actually produced by that particular company?s refineries. While gasoline is sold at about 167,000 retail outlets across the nation, about one-third of these stations are ?unbranded? dealers that may sell gasoline of any brand. The remainder of the outlets are ?branded? stations, but may not necessarily be selling gasoline produced at that company?s refineries. This is because gasoline from different refineries is often combined for shipment by pipeline, and companies owning service stations in the same area may be purchasing gasoline at the same bulk terminal. In that case, the only difference between the gasoline at station X versus the gasoline at station Y may be the small amount of additives that those companies add to the gasoline before it gets to the pump. Even if we knew at which company?s refinery the gasoline was produced, the source of the crude oil used at that refinery may vary on a day-to-day basis. Most refiners use a mix of crude oils from various domestic and foreign sources. The mix of crude oils can change based on the relative cost and availability of crude oil from different sources.

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                                                                    • Minte
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                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 7081
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I paid $2.29 for 93oct yesterday
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                                                                        • Sosa
                                                                          In Tushy Land
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 40149
                                                                          #19
                                                                          damn gas prices suck, right at 1.99 here right now.

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                                                                            • CE_BigB
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                              • 1292
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by RocHard
                                                                              Back to my question - The gas I buy at Exxon is the same I'd buy at any other gas station here in PHoenix?

                                                                              Arizona has no refineries...
                                                                              but I believe there is more than one pipe in the pipelines...
                                                                              and there is also a Texas pipeline to AZ

                                                                              here I found a link
                                                                              http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1318576/posts


                                                                              It does fry me, however.. that I can go to my house in Parker AZ... and gas there is 30 cents cheaper than here in LA area... where its all made.
                                                                              however, a great deal of this cost difference is taxes from AZ to CA.

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                                                                                • Pete-KT
                                                                                  Workin With The Devil
                                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                                  • 51532
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  No it is not because when the companies get the gas they filter and add differnt additives to it, so the gas is slightly differnt.

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                                                                                    • Jakke PNG
                                                                                      ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                      • 20306
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Stop crying and stop driving SUV's. Buy a 1.2 liter clio like I have.
                                                                                      ..and I'm off.

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                                                                                        • CaroMark
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                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                          • 1357
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                          We need to find alt fuels and get off the black heroin
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                                                                                            • Rochard
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                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                              • 75761
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                                                                              Stop crying and stop driving SUV's. Buy a 1.2 liter clio like I have.
                                                                                              I have a Mustang that gets some 25 MPG and I'm happy with that. I have a motorcycle that gets unheard of gas mileage. And I rarely leave the house.
                                                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                • Young
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                                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                                  • 10468
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  $2.30 for 93 here in Boston $2.45 for 95 if you can find it.
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                                                                                                    • Denis_SC
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                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                      • 2332
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      It's $ 3.25 / gallon for the cheapest one here in Toronto today

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                                                                                                        • Jakke PNG
                                                                                                          ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                                          • 20306
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by RocHard
                                                                                                          I have a Mustang that gets some 25 MPG and I'm happy with that. I have a motorcycle that gets unheard of gas mileage. And I rarely leave the house.
                                                                                                          My comment wasn't really geared towards YOU, but to your nation as a whole
                                                                                                          Europe gets buttraped on gasprices, and I'm just bitter.
                                                                                                          ..and I'm off.

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                                                                                                            • Rochard
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                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                              • 75761
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                                                                                              My comment wasn't really geared towards YOU, but to your nation as a whole
                                                                                                              Europe gets buttraped on gasprices, and I'm just bitter.
                                                                                                              Yeah, I'll agree with you. Lots of us in the industry have big Hummers, etc, and I kind of laugh of them - That's a huge tank that sucks up gas like there is no tomarrow and it is kind of pointless.

                                                                                                              My wife drives an Explorer. It cost $45 to fill up, but she really commutes to and from work it will last her two or three weeks.
                                                                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                                                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                • dready
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                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                  • 5247
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  It'll be great if it could hit $5/gal soon, but fuckin Bush is doing his best to prevent it.
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                                                                                                                    • Rinaldo
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                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                      • 5086
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      90 cents a litre in Canada

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                                                                                                                        • theking
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                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                          • 21053
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                          Where did you get that info on the pipeline. Maybe natural gas is piped into on a single line. But I highly doubt all the liquid petroleum for a city as big as Phoenix is coming in on a single pipeline.

                                                                                                                          And no, refined gas from one refinery is not mixed with another oil company's.
                                                                                                                          You are correct on all counts.
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                                                                                                                            • marzzo
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                                                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                                                              • 2134
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com <-- your city might have one of these, kinda neat but a few cents difference doesn't break the bank.
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                                                                                                                                • Project-Shadow
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                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 7340
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Neal
                                                                                                                                  I guess living in the states is good for gas prices as it's $7.00 a gallon in the UK....
                                                                                                                                  It's like being raped without the lube.

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                                                                                                                                    • BRISK
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                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 12240
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      A city as big as Phoenix had no gas to buy for 2 weeks?
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                                                                                                                                        • Sparks
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                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 2466
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Gas prices are getting sooooo high for the states. I havea truck too

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                                                                                                                                            • sumphatpimp
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                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 5235
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              gasoline costs about 50 cents a gallon to produce, the rest of the price you pay is taxes.
                                                                                                                                              never bithch about he tax on gas or cigaretts or liquor do you?
                                                                                                                                              anytime the politicians need money to fund something its gas, smokes and booze.
                                                                                                                                              and no one ever bitches.
                                                                                                                                              if the gas keeps going up it will cause inflation and then the shit will hit the fan.
                                                                                                                                              the cost to produce goods and deliver them to the store will be passed on to the consumer.

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                                                                                                                                                • Platinum Red
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
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                                                                                                                                                  ok I am in canada and last night it cost me $50 to fill my truck. the gas here is up to 80 - 85 cents a liter
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                                                                                                                                                    • ADL Colin
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                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 11929
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                                                                                                                                      My comment wasn't really geared towards YOU, but to your nation as a whole
                                                                                                                                                      Europe gets buttraped on gasprices, and I'm just bitter.
                                                                                                                                                      You mean Europe gets buttraped on gas taxes ;-)


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                                                                                                                                                        • fl_prn_str
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                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 5736
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          dont forget about Ethanol/Gasohol.....

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                                                                                                                                                            • Manowar
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                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 71528
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Neal
                                                                                                                                                              I guess living in the states is good for gas prices as it's $7.00 a gallon in the UK....

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