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  • fusionx
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    • Nov 2003
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    #1

    WTF is The Netherlands?

    This has pissed me off for a long time now

    Is The Netherlands a country, a region or what?

    What the fuck is "dutch"? Is that a language or a place or a medical condition?

    Just kidding.. seriously, I don't know the relationship between, say "Holland", "The Netherlands" and "Dutch".

    Would someone care to educate me on this? I think - Amsterdam is a city in Holland which is in The Netherlands where people are Dutch, and speak Dutch.

    Or is The Netherlands a region in Holland?

    Ok - I'm confused.

    Thanks
  • adonthenet
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    • Feb 2005
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    #2
    country - Holland - Netherlands
    language Dutch

    I think .. :S you got me confused as well hehe

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    • BV
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      • Sep 2001
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      #3
      i might be wrong but the Dutch prefer the spelling: Nederlands

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      • Rick Latona
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        #4
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        • Damian_Maxcash
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          #5
          Its just another name for Holland

          And people from Holland are Dutch

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          • grumpy
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            #6
            Originally posted by adonthenet
            country - Holland - Netherlands
            language Dutch

            I think .. :S you got me confused as well hehe
            Holland = hollow land
            Nederland = down land

            same words for the same country.


            both subscribe in a sense that holland is below sea level ( around 30 feet )
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            • ssp
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              #7
              My god you are ignorant.

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              • Rick Latona
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                #8
                Originally posted by fusionx
                This has pissed me off for a long time now

                Is The Netherlands a country, a region or what?

                What the fuck is "dutch"? Is that a language or a place or a medical condition?

                Just kidding.. seriously, I don't know the relationship between, say "Holland", "The Netherlands" and "Dutch".

                Would someone care to educate me on this? I think - Amsterdam is a city in Holland which is in The Netherlands where people are Dutch, and speak Dutch.

                Or is The Netherlands a region in Holland?

                Ok - I'm confused.

                Thanks
                The Netherlands is a kingdom. Holland is in the kingdom along with Aruba, Bonair and Curacao. They speak Dutch.
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                • fusionx
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BV
                  i might be wrong but the Dutch prefer the spelling: Nederlands

                  Could be - no offense meant to anyone.. 'cept the Dutch..

                  Actually, what has me interested is I just found out that my grandfather on my dad's side is Dutch. So I have a Dutch name. So I'm at least 1/4 Dutch. We always thought it was Austrian or German. Interesting. It's not an obviously German or Dutch name.

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                  • adonthenet
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                    • Feb 2005
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by damian2001
                    Its just another name for Holland

                    And people from Holland are Dutch
                    exactly what i think it is.

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                    • Nembrionic
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                      • Feb 2003
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                      #11
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland


                      Read that.
                      And they're right.

                      But people mean they same thing when they mention Holland or The Netherlands --> the country itself.

                      Dutch is our language alright, but I believe it's the English speaking people that came up with it.

                      We call it 'nederlands' ('netherlands', seems logical doesn't it?)
                      Like Germany language is called 'German'.

                      So for the record of all the assholes that go like this:

                      -"I'm Dutch!"
                      "Aaah...you're German!?!"

                      No dammit. Dutch is NOT the same as Deutsch, which is what the Germans call their own language(Germany->Deutschland. Germans speak "Deutsch")

                      Pronounciation.
                      Deutsch: Doitsch
                      Dutch: Datch

                      FINALLY see the difference?
                      Last edited by Nembrionic; 03-17-2005, 01:54 PM.

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                      • Rick Latona
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by fusionx
                        Could be - no offense meant to anyone.. 'cept the Dutch..

                        Actually, what has me interested is I just found out that my grandfather on my dad's side is Dutch. So I have a Dutch name. So I'm at least 1/4 Dutch. We always thought it was Austrian or German. Interesting. It's not an obviously German or Dutch name.
                        What is your name? We'll tell you what it means.
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                        • grumpy
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                          #13
                          so what is your last name?
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                          • fusionx
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ssp
                            My god you are ignorant.
                            I know that! That's why I'm asking

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                            • Dirty Dane
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                              • Feb 2004
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                              #15
                              So Hellas is capital of Greece?

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                              • grumpy
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Nembrionic
                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland


                                Read that.
                                And they're right.

                                But people mean they same thing when they mention Holland or The Netherlands.

                                Dutch is our language alright, but I believe it's the English speaking people that came up with it.

                                We call it 'nederlands' ('netherlands', seems logical doesn't it?)
                                Like Germany is called 'German'.

                                So for the record of all the assholes that go like this:

                                -"I'm Dutch!"
                                "Aaah...you're German!?!"

                                No dammit. Dutch is NOT the same as Deutsch, which is what the Germans call their own language(Germany->Deutschland. Germans speak "Deutsch")

                                Pronounciation.
                                Deutsch: Doitsch
                                Dutch: Datch

                                FINALLY see the difference?

                                English people came up with it because they thought it was Deutsch
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                                • Platinumpimp
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                                  • Jan 2004
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by adonthenet
                                  exactly what i think it is.
                                  Exactly, just like the Fench have "Pays-Bas" named as Holland.

                                  It literally means "Low Land".

                                  I design logo's.

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                                  • sweetME
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by ssp
                                    My god you are ignorant.
                                    He just wants to confirm something he's not sure of.


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                                    • Dirty Dane
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                                      #19
                                      and Great Britain is the best part of United Kingdom

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                                      • GatorB
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by fusionx
                                        This has pissed me off for a long time now

                                        Is The Netherlands a country, a region or what?

                                        What the fuck is "dutch"? Is that a language or a place or a medical condition?

                                        Just kidding.. seriously, I don't know the relationship between, say "Holland", "The Netherlands" and "Dutch".

                                        Would someone care to educate me on this? I think - Amsterdam is a city in Holland which is in The Netherlands where people are Dutch, and speak Dutch.

                                        Or is The Netherlands a region in Holland?

                                        Ok - I'm confused.

                                        Thanks
                                        Ok you live in AMERICA yet you speak ENGLISH. Shouldn't you be speaking AMERICAN?

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                                        • fusionx
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Nembrionic
                                          No dammit. Dutch is NOT the same as Deutsch, which is what the Germans call their own language(Germany->Deutschland. Germans speak "Deutsch")
                                          I've always known the difference between Deutsch and Dutch. The German language never entered into this. We always thought we were of German descent. But, someone in nmy family just traced the records back, and it turns out my Grandfather's relatives migrated to the US from Holland.

                                          The name is "Beer", but the original spelling may be different.

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                                          • Rick Latona
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                            and Great Britain is the best part of United Kingdom
                                            Great Britain is the Island. England is the country.
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                                            • Dirty Dane
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Rick Latona
                                              Great Britain is the Island. England is the country.
                                              England?

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                                              • Rick Latona
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by fusionx
                                                I've always known the difference between Deutsch and Dutch. The German language never entered into this. We always thought we were of German descent. But, someone in nmy family just traced the records back, and it turns out my Grandfather's relatives migrated to the US from Holland.

                                                The name is "Beer", but the original spelling may be different.
                                                That's a very famous name. De Beers was founded by the Dutch and they completely control the diamond trade. They don't have an office in the States because they'd be sued for anti-trust.
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                                                • ssp
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by fusionx
                                                  I know that! That's why I'm asking
                                                  This thread must only confuse you more. Let me clue you in.

                                                  When people talk about Holland or The Netherlands, they mean the same thing. They refer to the country, located next to Germany and Belgium. Dutch is the language and the people are called "the Dutch".

                                                  So where does the confusion come from? A long time ago we conquered some islands. They all belong to "The Kingdom Of The Netherlands". However, The Netherlands itself, it the country.

                                                  Don't look at that Wikipedia link about "Holland". Yes, it's true that there are 2 of the 12 provinces in The Netherlands called "South-Holland" and "North-Holland", and combined they make "Holland", but that is NOT what ppl refer to when they talk about Holland. They refer to the country. Forget that province crap.

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                                                  • grumpy
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by fusionx
                                                    I've always known the difference between Deutsch and Dutch. The German language never entered into this. We always thought we were of German descent. But, someone in nmy family just traced the records back, and it turns out my Grandfather's relatives migrated to the US from Holland.

                                                    The name is "Beer", but the original spelling may be different.
                                                    Your name comes from Bier witch is Beer. Some will say it will come from Bear but thats not right.
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                                                    • LowRider
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                                                      #27
                                                      I'll give you this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands

                                                      And still I wonder if people are aware that google exists..

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                                                      • fusionx
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by grumpy
                                                        Your name comes from Bier witch is Beer. Some will say it will come from Bear but thats not right.
                                                        hehe - we ordered a coat of arms in the 70's from some crap company... had a bear on it..

                                                        We do believe it's originally "Bier".

                                                        We always thought is was German or Austrian.. pretty interesting to find out it's Dutch.

                                                        Thanks!

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                                                        • grumpy
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ssp
                                                          Dutch is the language and the people are called "the Dutch".
                                                          No they are from Nederland and they speak Nederlands. Dutch is what the english made of it. Because Nederland was so hard to pronounce they made it Hollowland....wich becam Holland.

                                                          They thought it was Deutsh so they made a slang out of it . . Dutch.
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                                                          • ssp
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by grumpy
                                                            Your name comes from Bier witch is Beer. Some will say it will come from Bear but thats not right.
                                                            LOL Now the Dutch language is even starting to confuse me, hehe.

                                                            "beer" in Dutch, means "bear" in English.
                                                            "bier" in Dutch, means "beer" in English.

                                                            grumpy is probably right though, your name is most likely be derived from the Dutch word "bier". Or it might just mean "bear".

                                                            LOL Dutch sucks.

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                                                            • Mike Okitch
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                                                              #31
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                                                              • fusionx
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ssp
                                                                This thread must only confuse you more. Let me clue you in.
                                                                I think what messed me up was that The Netherlands = Holland. I truly thought The Netherlands was a region, that Holland was a part of.

                                                                My bad grammer aside... I think I've got it now.

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                                                                • ssp
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by grumpy
                                                                  No they are from Nederland and they speak Nederlands. Dutch is what the english made of it. Because Nederland was so hard to pronounce they made it Hollowland....wich becam Holland.

                                                                  They thought it was Deutsh so they made a slang out of it . . Dutch.
                                                                  OK Man, I'm not speaking Dutch on this board. I'm speaking English, no in fact, if you read it out loud, I'm speaking Brittish. But wait, you guys are Americans right? Wait, do Canadian people speak English too?

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                                                                  • nikki99
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Rick Latona
                                                                    The Netherlands is a kingdom. Holland is in the kingdom along with Aruba, Bonair and Curacao. They speak Dutch.
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                                                                    • grumpy
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ssp
                                                                      OK Man, I'm not speaking Dutch on this board. I'm speaking English, no in fact, if you read it out loud, I'm speaking Brittish. But wait, you guys are Americans right? Wait, do Canadian people speak English too?

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                                                                      • fusionx
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Rick Latona
                                                                        That's a very famous name. De Beers was founded by the Dutch and they completely control the diamond trade. They don't have an office in the States because they'd be sued for anti-trust.
                                                                        Maybe I've got an old great-great-great uncle somewhere who will put me in his diamond will

                                                                        No clue if our line is any relation to the De Beers. Would be cool..

                                                                        Thanks Rick

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                                                                        • nikki99
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by grumpy
                                                                          that holland is below sea level ( around 30 feet )
                                                                          that means they have more pressure?
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                                                                          • LowRider
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by ssp
                                                                            Don't look at that Wikipedia link about "Holland". Yes, it's true that there are 2 of the 12 provinces in The Netherlands called "South-Holland" and "North-Holland", and combined they make "Holland", but that is NOT what ppl refer to when they talk about Holland. They refer to the country. Forget that province crap.
                                                                            true... but anyways, I've found that if you have a question, and google can't answer it for you, then try http://wikipedia.org - more often than not, I get my answer.

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                                                                            • ArkansasDave
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Rick Latona
                                                                              Great Britain is the Island. England is the country.
                                                                              Yes, along with Scottland and Wales
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                                                                              • ssp
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by LowRider
                                                                                true... but anyways, I've found that if you have a question, and google can't answer it for you, then try http://wikipedia.org - more often than not, I get my answer.
                                                                                You're right. I wasn't saying don't look at Wikipedia. I was saying "don't look at that Wikipedia link about Holland". It's better to check out the Wikipedia link about The Netherlands.

                                                                                God so much confusion in this thread. I think I forgot who I am now.

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                                                                                • Dirty Dane
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by ArkansasDave
                                                                                  Yes, along with Scottland and Wales
                                                                                  Wales is part of France

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                                                                                  • DutchTeenCash
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    gotta love us dutchies ;) Best way to learn bout it, is to jump on a plane and come visit the 200 sq miles

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                                                                                    • Rick Latona
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by ArkansasDave
                                                                                      Yes, along with Scottland and Wales
                                                                                      I thought that was implied in my statement. You remember what happened last time we argued about history and geography. You got owned!
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                                                                                      • DutchTeenCash
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                                        Wales is part of France
                                                                                        1. youre dumb
                                                                                        2. youre posting to annoy

                                                                                        tell me which one is it ?

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                                                                                        • Fake Nick
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Rick Latona
                                                                                          That's a very famous name. De Beers was founded by the Dutch and they completely control the diamond trade. They don't have an office in the States because they'd be sued for anti-trust.

                                                                                          de beers is not the same as BEER ,


                                                                                          and even if his names was Beer dont make him related ;)

                                                                                          for example , my grandfather last name is Magnus , my grandmother Wagner ? ?

                                                                                          do I have very famous roots now ? ;)

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                                                                                          • Dirty Dane
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by thinkx
                                                                                            1. youre dumb
                                                                                            2. youre posting to annoy

                                                                                            tell me which one is it ?
                                                                                            They bought it on Ebay few days ago

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                                                                                            • Rick Latona
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                                                                              de beers is not the same as BEER ,


                                                                                              and even if his names was Beer dont make him related ;)

                                                                                              for example , my grandfather last name is Magnus , my grandmother Wagner ? ?

                                                                                              do I have very famous roots now ? ;)
                                                                                              Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. My answer was more interesting. ;)
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                                                                                              • Fake Nick
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wagner

                                                                                                my grandmother is from germany ;)

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                                                                                                • DutchTeenCash
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                                                  They bought it on Ebay few days ago
                                                                                                  damn, well weve got some cities here in holland id love to sell as well

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                                                                                                  • DutchTeenCash
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                                                                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wagner

                                                                                                    my grandmother is from germany ;)
                                                                                                    he died of a heart attack in Venice now thats romantic

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