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  • BFT3K
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    • Dec 2005
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    #1

    7 Lies About the Economy, Debunked in Under 3 Minutes



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM5Ep9fS7Z0
  • Gouge
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    • Mar 2005
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    #2
    BFT3K is still stuck on stupid

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    • devilspost
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      • Feb 2004
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      #3
      Don't punish the job creators ;)

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      • 12clicks
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        • Jan 2001
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        #4
        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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        • potter
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          • Dec 2004
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          #5
          That's not debunking. I mean, I agree with a few of the points he made - but they weren't all facts. A lot of what he said was opinion.

          To debunk something you have to actually have to prove how it's wrong. Not point out a mostly relative event in history that correlates to your point.

          Here, this is basically what he does. Ok, this is EXACTLY what he does.


          He wants to make a point about global warming, he wants to debunk that global warming is caused by (insert something here). So, he takes a relevant point about history to coincide with his point. He says that "Look! As we've gone through history there are less pirates in the world while the average global temperature has increased. Therefore global warming is caused by having less pirates".

          He doesn't actually debunk a damn thing. He just gives you a relevant piece of information that coincides with his side and opinion.

          Come on man, this isn't rocket science to understand. Don't be so fucking gullible.

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            • seeandsee
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              #7
              he did prove nothing maybe few are ok
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              • mafia_man
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                #8
                Originally posted by Gouge
                BFT3K is still stuck on stupid

                http://www.dmnews.com/fortune-top-50...article/91908/

                So we could pay multiple times over with just corporate revenue.
                I'm out.

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                • devilspost
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                  #9
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                  • Gouge
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                    • Mar 2005
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mafia_man
                    http://www.dmnews.com/fortune-top-50...article/91908/

                    So we could pay multiple times over with just corporate revenue.
                    Are you still living in 2006?

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                    • vsex
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                      • DWB
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                        • Jul 2003
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by potter
                        That's not debunking. I mean, I agree with a few of the points he made - but they weren't all facts. A lot of what he said was opinion.

                        To debunk something you have to actually have to prove how it's wrong. Not point out a mostly relative event in history that correlates to your point.

                        Here, this is basically what he does. Ok, this is EXACTLY what he does.


                        He wants to make a point about global warming, he wants to debunk that global warming is caused by (insert something here). So, he takes a relevant point about history to coincide with his point. He says that "Look! As we've gone through history there are less pirates in the world while the average global temperature has increased. Therefore global warming is caused by having less pirates".

                        He doesn't actually debunk a damn thing. He just gives you a relevant piece of information that coincides with his side and opinion.

                        Come on man, this isn't rocket science to understand. Don't be so fucking gullible.
                        I can't argue your graph. Looks right to me.

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                        • raymor
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                          • Oct 2002
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by potter
                          That's not debunking. I mean, I agree with a few of the points he made - but they weren't all facts. A lot of what he said was opinion.

                          To debunk something you have to actually have to prove how it's wrong. Not point out a mostly relative event in history that correlates to your point.

                          Here, this is basically what he does. Ok, this is EXACTLY what he does.


                          He wants to make a point about global warming, he wants to debunk that global warming is caused by (insert something here). So, he takes a relevant point about history to coincide with his point. He says that "Look! As we've gone through history there are less pirates in the world while the average global temperature has increased. Therefore global warming is caused by having less pirates".

                          He doesn't actually debunk a damn thing. He just gives you a relevant piece of information that coincides with his side and opinion.

                          Come on man, this isn't rocket science to understand. Don't be so fucking gullible.
                          The pirates and global warming graph is an excellent illustration of a very common tactic. Combined with picking dates for comparison carefully and using words like "stagnated" to imply something went bad when it fact it didn't change at all, someone can make it look like the economic problems are caused by raisins.

                          One has to apply some common sense and ask themselves "is spending twice as much as you take in most likely going to improve your situation, or make you go bankrupt?" Simple common sense thinking cuts through the charts comparing unemployment in 1964 to the color of shoes and other irrelevant BS.
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                          • 12clicks
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                            • Jan 2001
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by raymor
                            The pirates and global warming graph is an excellent illustration of a very common tactic. Combined with picking dates for comparison carefully and using words like "stagnated" to imply something went bad when it fact it didn't change at all, someone can make it look like the economic problems are caused by raisins.

                            One has to apply some common sense and ask themselves "is spending twice as much as you take in most likely going to improve your situation, or make you go bankrupt?" Simple common sense thinking cuts through the charts comparing unemployment in 1964 to the color of shoes and other irrelevant BS.
                            exactly right.
                            Just like the use of the 70% top tax rate is bogus. The loop holes available to the top tier are all gone for the most part.
                            They also conveniently leave out the fact that the bottom contributed back then too. There was none of this bottom 50% paying no income tax nonsense.
                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                            • Tempest
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                              • May 2004
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Gouge
                              This is one of the most moronic videos I've ever seen...

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                              • MediaGuy
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                                • Sep 2004
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                                #16
                                Actually you can research the OP's video and confirm everything.

                                Why does everyone believe the GOP who just wants to protect the top 1% ???

                                Anyway, I'm Canadian so I'm a full of shit communist...

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                                • GatorB
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                                  • Oct 2001
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by seeandsee
                                  he did prove nothing maybe few are ok
                                  He proved a lot. It's simple. Trickle down economic has bene around for 30 years. If it wroked wher are the results? I think 30 years is more than enough time to get results.

                                  GW Bush cut taxes on the rich. Supposedly this creates jobs. Why is unemployment 9.1%? Where are the jobs?

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                                  • MediaGuy
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                    He proved a lot. It's simple. Trickle down economic has bene around for 30 years. If it wroked wher are the results? I think 30 years is more than enough time to get results.

                                    GW Bush cut taxes on the rich. Supposedly this creates jobs. Why is unemployment 9.1%? Where are the jobs?
                                    Forget that - remember Reaganomics, where it all started...

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                                    • Cherry7
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                                      #19
                                      capitalism works - for the rich.

                                      For the those with capital, other wise it would be called workerism .
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                                      • nation-x
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                                        #20
                                        rabble rabble rabble

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                                        • 12clicks
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                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 19814

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Cherry7
                                          capitalism works - for the rich.

                                          For the those with capital, other wise it would be called workerism .
                                          Odd that our richest are mostly self made from the middle class.
                                          It's ok to be bitter about your failures but to pretend it's capitalism's fault is silly.
                                          You simply didn't make good decisions nor did you work hard enough
                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                          • DudeRick
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                                            #22
                                            What a moroon!

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                                            • Bill8
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                              There was none of this bottom 50% paying no income tax nonsense.
                                              You do realize that's an artifact of tax cutting, right?

                                              There's a simple solution - raise the taxes on everyone - we started these wars, we dug ourselves into this economic shithole, we all have to pay for it.

                                              Then you right wingers can stop your pathetic whining about how poor people dont pay income taxes.

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                                              • Bill8
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                                                • Oct 2001
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                                                #24
                                                So, does anyone have criticisms of the actual points Reich makes?

                                                Instead of this lameass partisan propaganda exchange?

                                                I know we cant expect the right to actually discuss ideas, but if we hear their fox news narratives, it might be interesting to look at the numbers and see if there's any truth to them.

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                                                • 12clicks
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                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 19814

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Bill8
                                                  You do realize that's an artifact of tax cutting, right?

                                                  There's a simple solution - raise the taxes on everyone - we started these wars, we dug ourselves into this economic shithole, we all have to pay for it.

                                                  Then you right wingers can stop your pathetic whining about how poor people dont pay income taxes.
                                                  Hi loser.
                                                  I'm all for ALL of us paying taxes. Then scum like you, who pay almost nothing, just might stop voting for every idiot spending bill that comes down the pike, knowing it will cost YOU more and not just your betters.
                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                  • Robbie
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                                                    • Aug 2002
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Bill8
                                                    we started these wars
                                                    Who is "we"?

                                                    The U.S. govt. has done all this stupid shit in it's grab for power. Occupying a couple of hundred countries world wide with troops (still occupying Japan and Germany almost 70 years after WW2)

                                                    We citizens didn't do any of that shit. It's the politicians in Washington D.C. that are responsible. Not me, not you, not "rich" people, and not even corporations (the current scapegoat). It was congressmen and Senators who have been setting the table for decades now.

                                                    Bush? Obama? LOL! Senators and Congressmen who are career politicians don't even give them a second thought. Remember....Congress made sure to place term limits on Presidents after Roosevelt. But there are NO term limits for Congress and The Senate.

                                                    The same crooks are running the show now in the Senate and Congress that ran it during Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, and now Obama. Well, except the ones who died of old age.

                                                    We need to VOTE THEM ALL OUT. One term and DONE.
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                                                    • keysync
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Robbie
                                                      We need to VOTE THEM ALL OUT. One term and DONE.
                                                      Damn Right!


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                                                      • The Demon
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Bill8
                                                        You do realize that's an artifact of tax cutting, right?

                                                        There's a simple solution - raise the taxes on everyone - we started these wars, we dug ourselves into this economic shithole, we all have to pay for it.

                                                        Then you right wingers can stop your pathetic whining about how poor people dont pay income taxes.
                                                        And you idiotic left wingers can stop blaming everybody else for your fuckups.

                                                        I know we cant expect the left to actually discuss ideas, but if we hear their CNN narratives, it might be interesting to look at the numbers and see if there's any truth to them.
                                                        Fixed for the exact same idiotic meaning. Still pretending to be objective or is this your way of showing your brain on drugs?
                                                        Last edited by The Demon; 10-11-2011, 07:08 PM.
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