Critique my Flv player Please. Honest opinions!

I think it looks pretty good. Easy to understand and use. I'm no expert in this kind of thing though.

I really like the idea of your player that's for sure..

- Clicking the video area should pause/start the video.

- Skin isn't all that appealing when compared to the standard players. Really needs some work there. Would be good to be able to build your own skin like flowplayer.

- using things like slowmo is confusing. You should be able to set it while the video is paused. Kept trying to get it to work, figured it was broken, and then I finally clicked on it while the video was playing.

- Seems that a bunch of things require the video to be playing before they will work. For example, I can't seek while the video is paused while I can in jwplayer/flowplayer.

Basically, you need it to function like flowplayer/jwplayer and then add on your cool features.

Thanks, I got hosed on the way it looked before.

Here is the original player :

http://www.pornsceneindex.com/Watch/...y_Blonde_Rocks

Not bad. Maybe lose the gradient. On a single color the buttons would pop a little more, and perhaps keep the PLAY / RW/ FF on one side, with the LOOP, SLOW, and audio on the other.

Yep, the play button has to be clicked before the slomo will work.

It was easier to set it up that way since I didn't need to execute the play functions.
But that is something that can be done for sure.

I didn't think about seeking while paused so good point!

I will continue to work on it.

i think the slowmo and the loop feature are great, the player control bar and buttons looks cheesey. just copy one of the nice JW Player skins or Vimeo's player.

you are an Actionscript programmer?

anybody know if JW or Flowplayer have slowmo and loop plug-ins?

I like the idea of a solid color. I was thinking that people wouldn't think I tried to
make it look good though. Hmmmmmmm?

I split the buttons because I wanted to make the progress bar centered but not make it
shorter. That's a tough one because when looping a long video the "start" and "end" buttons
get really close making it tricky to get the exact loop of something short like a cumshot.

Well, I can't really copy their buttons I think.
I'm distributing the player so maybe that is not in their license.

Yes, I'm an Actionscript programmer.

I doubt these other players have plugins for loop and slomo because I would have
used their players instead of making this one.

I searched for a way to do this but found nothing short of using Flash Media Server
or encoding multiple videos at different speeds.

I didn't make this player with any intentions of selling but after using it for a while
I decided to see if other webmasters might want to use it.

I love using it when I'm watching porn.

I loop the cumshot and slomo that MoFo everytime.

My gawd, the stuff you don't see at regular speed!

I haven't read the other comments, but I'm on morphine and don't want to right now. I don't like the gradient and colorful slow button. Makes it look old school and "bling bling" ish. Great idea though, I might give it a try on one of my fight video sites. Bookmarked this thread.

Check these out to see popular video player skins so you can see what the people want: http://www.longtailvideo.com/addons/...larity&dir=asc

Seems to work pretty well here, looks good.

I took a look at those skins, I liked most of them except this one :

http://www.longtailvideo.com/addons/...184/Trekkie?q=

WTF!!!!

Those players have been around for a long time and that allowed them to develop
a lot of skins. I will develop new skins over time for sure.

Bottom line, surfers don't care. The whole thing disappears when they play the video.
My task is clearly to make webmasters like it. That's hard.

I think the novelty of the features of loop and slow motion will win the surfers
faster then the webmaster. Webmasters are super critical because they know the
inner workings of websites and know what "good design" is. Surfers don't know that
and I don't think they actually care. They care if it works and they see the video.

But I will definitely work on some new skins as things progress.

Thanks bro.

I hope you try it out on your sites.

I'm really excited about it, but of course, I made it so......................

I need to stick to programming because at least I invented something with this player,
I never invent anything in porn. I don't really know much about porn.
I'm just a programmer that said "Wow, they let you sign up and start working
right away in porn, no hassles". So I built sites without really understanding
what surfers really want in porn. I just throw up categories of porn and that's all
I really know about it. Some people will say "just do what you like"; but that is not
all there is to it.

Flowplayer has backwards and forward slow motion, check out http://flowplayer.org/plugins/streaming/slowmotion.html

I like it very easy to use but the buttons could do with some work to make them stand out more

I actually like the shadow too looks like the player is floating

I havent been taking drugs ..BTW LOL

Great functionality, just needs a designer to make it look the part - goodluck with it, loved the way you have setup the loop and slowmo (as others have said).

it sucks the whole 100%

hmm, not bad at all ... but the colored SLOW button looks like a sore thumb there :/ ehm, and call me nitpicky, but the FF/RW arrows look edgy to me ... those shud b smoother imo ... else, nice approach to some new features in a flv player ;)

http://flowplayer.org/plugins/streaming/slowmotion.html

The slomoplayer plays slow motion without Wowza or Flash Media Server.

One point for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slomoplayer has 4 slow speeds, that plugin has just 2.
The video restarts a little when changing speeds; not on slomoplayer however.

I could add backward slowmotion, but don't really think it is useful.
Fast forward might be good but not really felling that for adult applications.
Slow motion means the surfers see more, fast forward means the surfer sees less.

Maybe the solution is to do the buttons in photoshop.

I drew the graphics inside of flash.
That's best when the graphics change size, but that's not so relevant in this player.
The size changes based on the size someone sets the player but it's never going to
be huge and pixelate.

Fast forward means they get to the spot they want without skipping 5 minutes of footage too.

I think you should also consider a "web2.0" sort of style for your site instead of the current one. Just a thought....

it looks shitty, in full screen., with all colors and things., looks like we are still in 90's
in the whole the idea sucks., why do i need to watch video in slow motion ?

this is not the first time i have seen your site., i have seen it previously and out of curiosity i checked that slomo player and i didn't liked the idea and the player.

i only liked the function loop video.,
else the color filters and that much buttons , make your player for geeks and not for regular users.,


no offence. just my opinion.

True, but that also means using Wowza or Flash Media Server.
Without those or some other streaming software, you can't skip forward in the
video past what is already downloaded anyway. Which means you can just click in the
progress bar and skip forward just as fast if there is no streaming server.

In other words : 95% of webmasters are not going to be able to fast forward in a
way that even matters since they are not going to run wowza or Flash media server.
Those 95% will only fast forward through what they already saw when the video was
downloading. So, I might add it, but I don't think it will make people who don't use
wowza say "wow! This is great".

agreeing with the masses here. just needs a makeover and it'll be more appealing. had a few UI quirks but that could also be handled with a more clean/intuitive design

find a designer who can lay you out a player mock in illustrator, grouping the elements so you can easily export and turn them into clips. i doubt it would cost that much as it's a pretty flat & easy job. then you can take their main elements and expand from there, following their general design scheme.

the player concept itself is great

or....

why don't you take one of the preset player skins and just dick around with the vectors until it looks "custom" and follow their design scheme for your extra buttons/clips/etc?

OK, you like the loop and hate the colors and slow motion.
But did you cum when you jacked to a loop?

All the buttons fade away if you move the mouse away from them so that helps.

I will do a new design soon.

Web2.0 style?

Explain.

I don't know what web2.0 style means.
I thought web2.0 was using a flv player for videos.

rule #1 of web 2.0 style
lose the gradients!

I just answered a direct question from Mutt, no attack to you or anything, don't be so defensive. Plus, I contacted you to do some cool design for YOUR player FOR FREE and you asked me to... PAY YOU! You could have got EXACTLY what people is asking you for and you couldn't even realize it. Furthermore, you deny it:

Despite the truth (or not) of this, I have news for you: you want to sell to... WEBMASTERS!

Maybe you should just slow down, get down your horse and try a more humble and proactive way. You could be selling lots of copies but you're so stubborn and greedy you can't even see reality. Comparing your player to the best in the market and even charging more than the top player in the market won't be of any help.

And as cool and novelty a "loop feature" can be, I'm pretty sure most webmasters will take the player with more features (specially those that actually MAKE MONEY) rather than a novelty. In other words: you can't compete with the best with something that looks as a bad crack trip (your first version) or a super amateurish "I don't give a fuck" look.

Just my humble opinion, of course

The funny part is I sent someone your way yesterday. Hope you act smart and take good care of him, you're making Paul Markham look as a very thoughtful and coherent person

Not able to pay anyone at the moment.

$36 left to my name.

Nothing but bacon, sausage and eggs in the fridge.
Hoping that will last 3 weeks.

Hot water heater is turned off to save electricity.
Furnace turned off too.
Working in a closed off room so my body heat will help heat the room.

Just praying that my dogfart check is not 2 weeks late like last time.

I love life, at least what I've heard about it.


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Gee, and you think I'm defensive. Read your own reply.

How am I charging more when the player is free?

Sorry that I used a big font to say "without" because evidently that irritated you more
than anything I actually said.

About you contacting me to do a cool design :

You said : "You cannot use the design I'm thinking about for anyone else".

But you didn't want to pay for an exclusive design.

Why would any programmer do a free design for you but you have a contract where the
programmer cannot reuse the design. How does the programmer survive like that?

Well, you must give bad directions since the person you sent never showed up.

what are you talking about? I said I WOULD PROVIDE THE DESIGN so you just add it to the player (5 mins? 10 mins?) Really no idea what are you talking about here. And yes, you asked me to PAY YOU for an X amount of licenses in advance (don't remember and don't have the mails).

Uh, and btw, your player isn't free. It's free only with deactivated features, then it has a price tag for sites that don't charge (???) and then ANOTHER price tag for sites with subscription based models. Am I lying? Thus, last time I checked $99.95 is more than $95 (FP) or $89 (JW)

and with this attitude don't expect much people to contact you. Did it occur to you that MAYBE people has other times and other things to do and MAYBE they could be contacting you tomorrow? Seriously, do whatever you want, if you don't care about your own business why should I? I tried to help you make sales, people is trying to help you with their input and you keep on your stubborn ways. Anyway, good luck with your stuff

Bullshit!

Bottom line : You wanted me to do something for free but only if I would not use it for
anyone else.

Sorry bro, but what good is that to me or anyone else?

You wanted me to agree to risk being sued for making my own player and you were
not even going to pay for that.

I did agree that I would make you an exclusive player for you to resell in your designs
but I asked for $10 per license but you had to buy in bulk, at least the first time,
for a total of $300.

So you hit the road running when you heard $300.
You didn't want to pay $300 fo 30 players that you would sale for $900.

End of Story.

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Flash takes 5 mins just to start up.

You need a new computer.

As everyone else has stated, you need a better skin. If you're starting out, you need to go look at the best player skins out there - and yours has to be BETTER.

I have a new computer. My remark was hyperbole.

Well, this is not my first try at making a skin that webmasters like so I'm doubting that
magic will happen on the next try.

I hope the function of the player will be the deciding factor for now.

I have never stopped surfing a website because I didn't like the player buttons, but
I do stop if the player doesn't work.

Some will choose design over functionality.
Yahoo has a much better design than Google but it's not enough to keep them
competitive.

what i meant is your player looks like its made for geeks and not for regular surfers.,


thanks for your time., have a gr8 day ahead.,

That's how I read it.

I dress the same way.

My last post on the subject since you seem to be really slow:
1) I was going to provide the clients. I was going to provide a high end design. You had to provide 5 mins of your time (well, since your PC is slow let's say 10).

2) I've customized MANY flash players and I know how much time it takes once you have all the elements. But let's say it would take you 2 hours. If I ask ANY DESIGNER OR DEVELOPER "hey, I'll give you everything you need and a portfolio of clients and you'll need to work a couple hours" I can bet you 99.999999999999% of people would kill for this. Your answer asking for money upfront was so crazy I simply didn't care. I spend way more than $300 per week on development (make it double or triple). One thing is: "hey, that's cool, but what about a plan to develop this or that and add more features? I just need x amount of money" and another thing is your approach.

3) You seem to forget your player's features ALREADY EXISTS. Even FOR FREE.

4) I already have customized players with way more features than yours. You're so dense you can't even realize I was handling you some help like I did with tens of developers or even designers (yeah, even my own competition) in this board

5) I was very clear I wasn't going to sell your player. Instead, that I'd send you my clients. And stop dreaming, nobody will pay $100 for that. You would need to find this concurrence of events:
a) someone that doesn't know ANYTHING about video players
b) on top of that, someone that is interested in slow motion rather than any feature that actually makes money
c) someone that on top of the previous conditions doesn't care AT ALL about the look of their sites.

6) and yes, with all of the above, in exchange of clients and design so you could actually make a sale, I requested that MY DESIGN wasn't available for anyone else. Yeah, what an asshole of me not benefiting everybody else off my FREE work

Now, see what any smart person would have done or said:
1) "hey, I can make my player better, I can showcase it, I can make it stand out and I have to give nothing in exchange!"
2) wow, now I can have great themes/skins and sell my player with my default or charge a plus for HQ skin customization
3) wow, someone is providing me with FREE leads to make sales... and even a better look.. FOR FREE!
4) cool, now I can concentrate in making money and creating a client base
5) add any decent option here

and the results:
1) a decent player you can't sell
2) you lost a safe portfolio of clients
3) a horrible look like everybody is telling (which in turn will make you won't be able to sell it)
4) you lost any future chance of working with several people in this board

and all of this because:
1) you were greedy
2) you ARE stubborn

Anyway, like I said, good luck, as you can see I didn't even mention the players with similar features other people could buy or acquire for free to avoid more harm that the one you already done to yourself. If you can't get a learning from this, your loss

PS: about this:
Sorry bro, but what good is that to me or anyone else?

I thought money was enough payment, what a fucking idiot I am. And about everybody else, I work for myself and to provide for my family, not as a charity, everybody else could PAY for my work (heck, it was PAY YOU for my work and you're so dense you still didn't get it)

Thanks for posting but I'm no longer going to read this shit.

You are mad because you offered something with conditions that were unreasonable
and you don't want to hear that.

I don't even like your designs even if they are "better", so why would I try to use
something that I don't even like?

Get over yourself. We didn't come to an agreement, you lost no money so
why lose your mind?

Let Harvey skin it - i'll buy it if you let Harvey or anybody do a nice skin for me.

That's not a problem to have someone else do a skin.

The problem is he wants a guarantee that I will never make a design in my player that
"looks like his". The problem is that his design is going to be developed based on
how my player works so in someone's opinion it may always look like his design.

I mean, what's he going to do; make the "slow" button blue and then sue me
if I release a version with a blue "slow" button?????

His conditions were not realistic.

I did agree to never intentionally make a "look alike design".
That wasn't good enough for him.

He cancelled the plans, not me.
And he never complained about how much I asked him to pay until now.

Harvey is a very reasonable guy - I'm sure he'll clarify what he wanted to do. But if somebody pays you for unique skin there's nothing wrong with requiring exclusivity on that skin.

Sure, but he's complaining that I didn't do it for free.



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Sorry, Mutt, but no way, under any condition, specially now that he changed his story (again). I just can't stand liars and bullshitters, specially divas and drama queens that lie

I hate cheap people who run a business but don't want to spend money on it
and then bring up a bunch of lies and crap to hide that fact that they simply don't
want to pay.

You know bro, you sure get a nasty case of the stink ass when you don't get your
way.