Canadian ISPs Look to Ban Porn Sites Without Going to Court

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  • DVTimes
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    • Jun 2003
    • 31658

    #1

    Canadian ISPs Look to Ban Porn Sites Without Going to Court

    Canadian ISPs Look to Ban Porn Sites Without Going to Court

    Is this going to be bad. I thought Canada was liberal.

    http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=15461

    TORONTO ? A proposal at the Canadian Telecom Summit could pave the way for Internet service providers to remove objectionable websites, including those that contain pornography, without having to engage in protracted legal engagements with site operators.
    In a speech to the Canadian Telecom industry, which included managers from major ISPs like Rogers, Cogeco and Sympatico, Bernie Farber, CEO of the Canadian Jewish Congress, put his finger on the crux of the problem. ISPs that want to do something about objectionable material like hate speech and porn cannot remove sites without those sites first being declared illegal in a court of law, Farber told the crowd.

    "This is a commercial business,? Farber said. ?A newspaper doesn't have to accept every letter to the editor and an ISP doesn't have to accept everybody as a customer if they choose not to. It doesn't take a lot to discern what is pornographic and what is hate.?

    While Farber considered his plan to be well received, he did concede that customers and website operators might object to the private regulation of content. For that, he offered a blunt response: ?Let them sue you.?

    Under the current system, ISPs post warnings regarding offensive content, but as Farber pointed out, such warnings are meaningless unless enforced.

    According to Farber, ISPs need only develop a protocol for removing offensive content without court approval.
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  • GatorB
    The Demon & 12clicks
    • Oct 2001
    • 18208

    #2
    Yes and the first ISP that removes porn wil be out of business. ISPs have no clue as to how many people look at porn.

    ISP A bans porn

    ISP B doesn't ban porn and is the SAME price as ISP A.

    Now which one gets more business?

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    • Webby
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Oct 2002
      • 14956

      #3
      Mmmm.. Another loose cannon on an agenda...
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      • gooddomains
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2003
        • 10127

        #4
        that's fucked up

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        • biftek
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jan 2005
          • 1030

          #5
          it just sounds like porn on ISP servers , not banning porn from the isp
          no great loss really , plenty of choices out there

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          • JimmiDean
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2004
            • 3433

            #6
            It will never happen Rogers and Sympatico make fat to much money of it.
            This comes mostly from one over anxiouse zelot with the Jewish congress looking to control internet information.
            Make no mistake they wish to control the internet medium and use porn as their crusade.
            In the end it will come down to the Canadian charter of rights and our right to freedom of expresion.
            The supreme court will never uphold a ban on adult entertainment on the net.
            My God there's Porn on here!

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            • AtlantisCash
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2005
              • 3179

              #7
              jewsh bastards dude...
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              • Fabien
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 4789

                #8
                Religion mother fuckers again at it

                They will loose around 40% of the people if they do this as porn is a big part on why people get an internet connection.

                In no fucking way will this pass and yes, SUE THE MOFO'S that will have the balls to do it.
                What the fuck is this shit ? China ????????????????

                These assholes can't think about better stuff to do and trust me, there are lots of things to be taken care of.
                Pathetic dumb fucks lol.......

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                • AtlantisCash
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                  • Dec 2005
                  • 3179

                  #9
                  i don't thing people will give a fuck about that.
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                  • MaddCaz
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                    • Mar 2006
                    • 9483

                    #10
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                    • AtlantisCash
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                      • Dec 2005
                      • 3179

                      #11
                      Iran is totaly banning porn, however some of Iranian guys still keep going to visit our Sites ))
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                      • Vitasoy
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                        • Oct 2003
                        • 58202

                        #12
                        I can't see it happening


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                        • chase
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 6019

                          #13
                          If this is really what they consider a legitimate way to handle this, why don't they apply this theory to cp? If every isp was able to block cp, it would be a lot harder for those sickos to get cp materials. Seems to me that if it were really the objective of the gov't to protect kids, they'd worry about that long before blocking ALL porn.
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                          • SilentKnight
                            Megan Fox's fluffer
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 24818

                            #14
                            Originally posted by GatorB
                            Yes and the first ISP that removes porn wil be out of business. ISPs have no clue as to how many people look at porn.

                            ISP A bans porn

                            ISP B doesn't ban porn and is the SAME price as ISP A.

                            Now which one gets more business?
                            Saves me having to type it.

                            We've maintained two separate broadband accounts with Cogeco for over 7 years, and while their service has been quite good...I have no problem going with another ISP (even dialup, if necessary) if they follow through with banning adult sites.

                            2 accts @ $47/month ea. That's $1,128 per year they'd be losing just from our house & office alone (not including our cable TV - which we'd ditch as well).

                            They'd only be biting the hand that feeds them in the long run.

                            Dumb business move.
                            Last edited by SilentKnight; 06-14-2006, 06:02 AM.

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                            • Phoenix
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                              • Nov 2002
                              • 35475

                              #15
                              seems like he has his own version of hate going on
                              he hates people who are more open towards sexual freedom..it is the basis of his hatred
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                              • rockbear
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 806

                                #16
                                I don't think that they will do a move without any ban on porn by the supreme court. MY

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                                • Basic_man
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                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 27360

                                  #17
                                  Ho no ! I hope this shit won't affect us too much
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                                  • SilentKnight
                                    Megan Fox's fluffer
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 24818

                                    #18
                                    BTW - the phone number for Bernie Farber (the idiot responsible for launching this new proposal on behalf of the Canadian Jewish Council) is (4l6) 635-2883, ext. 186.

                                    http://www.fpp.co.uk/Canada/CJC/FarberFile.html

                                    Give the moron a call and express your views.

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                                    • Magnus
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 1211

                                      #19
                                      Rogers owns the PPV cable channels, of which 20+ channels are adult. I don't see them doing this at any point.
                                      Magnus

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                                      • L-Pink
                                        working on my tan
                                        • Mar 2005
                                        • 39151

                                        #20
                                        A business should have the right to exclude what to them might be offensive.

                                        Making it a "right" not a "requirement" is the way to handle it.

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                                        • Sarah - GTS
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 1656

                                          #21
                                          I don't see this ever happening


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                                          • BlackCrayon
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 19634

                                            #22
                                            if this happens it would be a great opportunity for a kind of 'free speech/thought' type of isp that doesn't pull such communist type tactics.
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                                            • SilentKnight
                                              Megan Fox's fluffer
                                              • Oct 2005
                                              • 24818

                                              #23
                                              Xbiz's headline was rather erroneous once you read the entire story. ISP's aren't actually looking to ban porn sites - it was simply a proposal put forward by zealot Bernie Farber to the Canadian Telecom industry.

                                              I doubt the industry is giving much creedance to the clown.

                                              Xbiz is seldom accurate with their news reporting.

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                                              • RawAlex
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Oct 2003
                                                • 9465

                                                #24
                                                Silentknoght, you are correct - and more so, they guy is mostly interested in blocking out hate speech against Jews , and is attempting to use the potential to block out other harmfuil things like porn in the same manner, to make his attempting muzzling of people that don't agreee with him look acceptable.

                                                He isn't shy about censorship: http://drdawgsblawg.blogspot.com/200...-chutzpah.html

                                                It isn't a new law, it isn't a new rule, it isn't anything except the blatherings of someone who would want he world to only live his way, by his rules, in his perfect world. Yeesh.

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                                                • Fetish Gimp
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                  • 1699

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by JimmiDean
                                                  It will never happen Rogers and Sympatico make fat to much money of it.
                                                  This comes mostly from one over anxiouse zelot with the Jewish congress looking to control internet information.
                                                  /close this bitch up.
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                                                  • SilentKnight
                                                    Megan Fox's fluffer
                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                    • 24818

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                    Silentknoght, you are correct - and more so, they guy is mostly interested in blocking out hate speech against Jews , and is attempting to use the potential to block out other harmfuil things like porn in the same manner, to make his attempting muzzling of people that don't agreee with him look acceptable.

                                                    He isn't shy about censorship: http://drdawgsblawg.blogspot.com/200...-chutzpah.html

                                                    It isn't a new law, it isn't a new rule, it isn't anything except the blatherings of someone who would want he world to only live his way, by his rules, in his perfect world. Yeesh.
                                                    How long before he comes out with, "If you approve of porn...you must be anti-semitic, too!"

                                                    This fanatic is startin' to sound like a Canuck version of Rev. Wildmon of the AFA (American Family Association).

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                                                    • coolegg2
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2005
                                                      • 210

                                                      #27
                                                      Well the good news is that the Canadian Jewish Conference has apparently solved a long and difficult legal question which courts around the western world have struggled with for more than 50 years. Namely, what is obscene and what is not.

                                                      "It doesn't take a lot to discern what is pornographic."
                                                      Like adult webmasters in the US and the UK we Canadian adult webmasters have struggled with not really knowing what is obscene until a court declares it obscene or not - although things have been more clear here in Canada than most other countries. So apparently the Canadian Jewish Congress has it all figured out and the answer is obvious.

                                                      Can't wait to hear it.

                                                      Waiting...
                                                      Last edited by coolegg2; 06-14-2006, 07:38 AM.

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                                                      • SilentKnight
                                                        Megan Fox's fluffer
                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                        • 24818

                                                        #28
                                                        To them, pornography is easy to define.

                                                        "I know porn when I see it. I can't tell you how or why I know its porn. I JUST KNOW! Trust me."

                                                        If it causes them to slap the monkey awhile instead of the wife, it must be porno.

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                                                        • pawsregd
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2005
                                                          • 2290

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Magnus
                                                          Rogers owns the PPV cable channels, of which 20+ channels are adult. I don't see them doing this at any point.
                                                          Same with Bell owning Sympatico as well as Bell ExpressVU satellite which has the best PPV porn and Videotron being a major ISP as well as cable provider.

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                                                          • stev0
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                            • 6801

                                                            #30
                                                            I doubt they'd remove legal porn... i think it may be a good thing.

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                                                            • coolegg2
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2005
                                                              • 210

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by stev0
                                                              I doubt they'd remove legal porn... i think it may be a good thing.
                                                              That's exactly the point. By removing porn before a court has determined it's legality IS removing legal porn.

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                                                              • xxxdesign-net
                                                                My hips don't lie
                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 10129

                                                                #32
                                                                Who here was against NetNeutrality again...? Same thing will happen in the US...

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                                                                • DVTimes
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                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 31658

                                                                  #33
                                                                  bump.........
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                                                                  • notabook
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                                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                                    • 9748

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I would love to see the ads for the ISP's who don't block porn... would be so easy for them to advert for.
                                                                    "Blah blah blah features for $xx.xx a month! Oh... AND WE DON'T BLOCK PORN BITCHES!"

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