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  • kmanrox
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    • Oct 2001
    • 29295

    #1

    Why can't Iran have nukes?

    OK, for the record, I don't think they should have them either.

    BUT to play devil's advocate, like, why can't they have them? That's like me trying to get a group of webmasters to stop LAMike from buying another Ferrari .... That wouldn't fly. What's so illegal about another country wanting what the rest of the world has?
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    • CDSmith
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      #3
      WTF does a country like Iran need nukes for? And... the rest of the world doesn't have nukes. There are plenty of countries that don't have nukes.

      I think the idea is to keep the # of nukes in the world down to at least what they are now, and not go having every upstart dictatorship and monarchy out there having them.

      should the US have them? If countries like Korea, Russia & China gave them up then I suppose there would be no need for them at all. Since that's not likely to ever happen I guess the US needs them also. But why have more and more countries signing on? Especially one like Iran who hasn't actually been all that stable or trustworthy over the past 30 years.
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      • StuartD
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        • Jul 2002
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        #4
        I'd say that it's because it's American foriegn policy to tell other countries how to live and what they can and can't have but then an American would come and tell me that it's none of my business what America does.
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        • nofx
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          #5
          Nuclear Apox spells your doom
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          • BRISK
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            #6
            Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty
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            • David!
              By the wrath of Agamemnon
              • Apr 2004
              • 6501

              #7
              Originally posted by Hedonistic
              OK, for the record, I don't think they should have them either.

              BUT to play devil's advocate, like, why can't they have them? That's like me trying to get a group of webmasters to stop LAMike from buying another Ferrari .... That wouldn't fly. What's so illegal about another country wanting what the rest of the world has?
              Cuz they probably would not hesitate to use them even if it was not waranted
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              • kmanrox
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                • Oct 2001
                • 29295

                #8
                Originally posted by BRISK
                Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty

                yes i realize that, but i mean, isn't that a crock of shit too?

                i think that by LAMike owning more than 1 car that costs over $100k that he can hurt people's feelings, so I declare he shouldn't be allowed to buy another.

                what are the chances of me getting this injunction?


                ya see... it doesnt make sense... its The Man trying to keep someone else down if you think about it.
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                • BRISK
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hedonistic
                  yes i realize that, but i mean, isn't that a crock of shit too?
                  Well, Iran signed the crock of shit. If they didn't want to be held accountable, they probably shouldn't have signed it.
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                  • tungsten
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hedonistic
                    yes i realize that, but i mean, isn't that a crock of shit too?

                    i think that by LAMike owning more than 1 car that costs over $100k that he can hurt people's feelings, so I declare he shouldn't be allowed to buy another.

                    what are the chances of me getting this injunction?


                    ya see... it doesnt make sense... its The Man trying to keep someone else down if you think about it.
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                    • azguy
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                      • StuartD
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by PussyMan
                        Cuz they probably would not hesitate to use them even if it was not waranted
                        Yes, but "probably" is pretty vague, and anyone can say that about anyone really. And so it should apply to anyone if that's the case. I could say that the US would "probably" use a nuke or two if there's a world war... hey wait...
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                        • nofx
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                          #13
                          isnt russia going to sell Iran that stuff?

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                          • kmanrox
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                            • Oct 2001
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BRISK
                            Well, Iran signed the crock of shit. If they didn't want to be held accountable, they probably shouldn't have signed it.

                            i wasnt aware that they signed it... what did they get in return for promising to stay old-school tech?
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                            • mardigras
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hedonistic
                              ya see... it doesnt make sense....
                              Absolutely right... ya didn't make sense
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                                • kmanrox
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Icon
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                                  • CDSmith
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                                    • May 2001
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Hedonistic
                                    yes i realize that, but i mean, isn't that a crock of shit too?

                                    i think that by LAMike owning more than 1 car that costs over $100k that he can hurt people's feelings, so I declare he shouldn't be allowed to buy another.

                                    what are the chances of me getting this injunction?


                                    ya see... it doesnt make sense... its The Man trying to keep someone else down if you think about it.
                                    Your analogy is a bit cockeyed, as you're comparing a world safety issue with some sort of financial/capitalistism-with-overtones-of-communism/dictatorship thing. It does not compute.

                                    In my opinion Iran is a country that shouldn't be trusted with nukes. Period. Look back at it's history over the past 30 years and then argue this point with me, if you can.
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                                    • David!
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                                      Yes, but "probably" is pretty vague, and anyone can say that about anyone really. And so it should apply to anyone if that's the case. I could say that the US would "probably" use a nuke or two if there's a world war... hey wait...
                                      It's very simple actually.
                                      Would you like to have the dude down the street who is in and out of rehab and that you know is always high on some drugs, own a rocket launcher, a few ak-47 and a few couple of pounds of C4?
                                      I don't think you would feel confortable. I know I wouldn't.
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                                      • Michael O
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                                        • Jul 2001
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by CDSmith
                                        WTF does a country like Iran need nukes for? And... the rest of the world doesn't have nukes. There are plenty of countries that don't have nukes.

                                        I think the idea is to keep the # of nukes in the world down to at least what they are now, and not go having every upstart dictatorship and monarchy out there having them.

                                        should the US have them? If countries like Korea, Russia & China gave them up then I suppose there would be no need for them at all. Since that's not likely to ever happen I guess the US needs them also. But why have more and more countries signing on? Especially one like Iran who hasn't actually been all that stable or trustworthy over the past 30 years.
                                        Why does a country like Israel need them?
                                        Self protection everyone knows they would use them against Syria or Egypt if they try anything again and Israel was losing.

                                        Why did North Korea want them?
                                        Again who would want to fuck with a country with nukes when you know they are stupid enought to use them.
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                                        • CDSmith
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                          Why does a country like Israel need them?
                                          Self protection everyone knows they would use them against Syria or Egypt if they try anything again and Israel was losing.

                                          Why did North Korea want them?
                                          Again who would want to fuck with a country with nukes when you know they are stupid enought to use them.
                                          I believe the thinking behind it now is... the world doesn't need more countries with nuclear capability.

                                          And I agree with that thinking. I would prefer that we had less countries sporting nukes, but since that isn't likely to happen anytime soon I'll settle for the next best thing, that being not having MORE countries capable of wiping out the world.
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                                          • MetaMan
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                                            #22
                                            a country like Iran is backwards compared to most of the world, they live their lives 100% on religion.

                                            why on earth would you let a country who lives there everyday lives on a "God" that you cant even see have nukes?

                                            alll turban wearing nazis need to get wiped off this earth asap.

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                                              #23
                                              again with this topic
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                                              • CDSmith
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MetaMan
                                                a country like Iran is backwards compared to most of the world, they live their lives 100% on religion.

                                                why on earth would you let a country who lives there everyday lives on a "God" that you cant even see have nukes?

                                                alll turban wearing nazis need to get wiped off this earth asap.
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                                                • StuartD
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by PussyMan
                                                  It's very simple actually.
                                                  Would you like to have the dude down the street who is in and out of rehab and that you know is always high on some drugs, own a rocket launcher, a few ak-47 and a few couple of pounds of C4?
                                                  I don't think you would feel confortable. I know I wouldn't.
                                                  How about instead of imagining a world where everyone has them, how about a world where no one does?
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                                                  • StuartD
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MetaMan
                                                    a country like Iran is backwards compared to most of the world, they live their lives 100% on religion.

                                                    why on earth would you let a country who lives there everyday lives on a "God" that you cant even see have nukes?

                                                    alll turban wearing nazis need to get wiped off this earth asap.
                                                    Funny, I kept thinking you were describing Bush for some reason but he doesn't wear a turban.... that I know of.
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                                                    • David!
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                                                      How about instead of imagining a world where everyone has them, how about a world where no one does?
                                                      We're 60 years too late for that. Utopia will never happen. The world sucks and we got to make do with it by making sure all them sheeps have enough porn to masturbate for the rest of their lives
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Hedonistic
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                                                        'new' to world affairs?

                                                        it's an issue better researched on your own rather than posted on a message board. You can gain a better understanding and form your own opinions instead of listening to the opinions of others. My opinion makes me some sort of asshole cause I'd make some stupid observation about the fact that ONE, certain...unnamed country has utilized WMD's in Dresdin and in Japan, yet restrict the same ability in others. Payback WILL be a bitch.

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                                                        • project_naughty
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                                                          #29
                                                          Crikey O'Blimey.

                                                          The leaders of Iran declared several years ago that as soon as they had nukes, Israel would cease to exist. So that's one reason.

                                                          And if you knew anything about Islam, you'd know that Muslims must be in a constant state of war with non-Muslims until the non-Muslims either pay the jizya tax or become Muslims.

                                                          Allowing Muslims to have nukes is like giving a known paedophile your children to babysit for the afternoon - a certain inevitability enters the equation.

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                                                          • directfiesta
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by PussyMan
                                                            It's very simple actually.
                                                            Would you like to have the dude down the street who is in and out of rehab and that you know is always high on some drugs, own a rocket launcher, a few ak-47 and a few couple of pounds of C4?
                                                            I don't think you would feel confortable. I know I wouldn't.
                                                            LOL LOL

                                                            Who are you talking about ?????

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                                                            • directfiesta
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                                                              #31
                                                              OK, seriously???

                                                              Because the US don't respect their signature ... Why should others do so???

                                                              Breaking US Pledges under the NPT

                                                              The Bush NPR explicitly calls for targeting nuclear weapons against several non-nuclear weapon state signatories to the NPT, which is contrary to previous US pledges to not do so. Such pledges were made by all the nuclear weapon state signatories to the NPT as an incentive for other countries to renounce nuclear weapons. By developing new nuclear weapons expressly to target non-nuclear weapon states, the United States would undermine the continued viability of the NPT. In short, the security costs of developing such weapons outweigh any conceivable security benefits.

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                                                              • Michael O
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                I believe the thinking behind it now is... the world doesn't need more countries with nuclear capability.

                                                                And I agree with that thinking. I would prefer that we had less countries sporting nukes, but since that isn't likely to happen anytime soon I'll settle for the next best thing, that being not having MORE countries capable of wiping out the world.
                                                                I agree way to many countries have the bomb but sadly more will get it in the future.
                                                                Basicly what is needed is 4 kilos of plutonium and you got the bomb making it effective is another story.
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                                                                • Joe Citizen
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                  Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty
                                                                  The USA walks away from international treaties all the time.

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                                                                  • Icon
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                    The USA walks away from international treaties all the time.
                                                                    **cough** Kyoto **cough cough**

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                                                                    • Wendy's Assistant Manager
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Icon
                                                                      **cough** Kyoto **cough cough**
                                                                      Kyoto is BULLSHIT. And the Bush administration made the RIGHT call throwing that hunk of shit out.

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                                                                      • Joe Citizen
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Icon
                                                                        **cough** Kyoto **cough cough**
                                                                        Yup.. and here's another one. The USA withdrew just yesterday.

                                                                        WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The United States has withdrawn from an accord that lets an international court decide disputes over foreign inmates of U.S. prisoners, an agreement used by death penalty opponents in their fight against executions.

                                                                        http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/10/vie...nvention.reut/

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                                                                        • Icon
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                          Yup.. and here's another one. The USA withdrew just yesterday.

                                                                          WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The United States has withdrawn from an accord that lets an international court decide disputes over foreign inmates of U.S. prisoners, an agreement used by death penalty opponents in their fight against executions.

                                                                          http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/10/vie...nvention.reut/

                                                                          Along the lines of breaking the Geneva convention....

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                                                                          • kenny
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                                                            Why does a country like Israel need them?
                                                                            Self protection everyone knows they would use them against Syria or Egypt if they try anything again and Israel was losing.

                                                                            Why did North Korea want them?
                                                                            Again who would want to fuck with a country with nukes when you know they are stupid enought to use them.

                                                                            When the country of Israel acquired them the big picture was different..
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Lets face it, if the US wasn't invading countries then Iran and other small countries wouldn't feel the need to have nukes... By posessing nukes a country feels safer. Sure, some leaders are crazy and shouldn't be trusted with Nukes, but its not as if Bush is a model of clear thinking is he.
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                                                                              • kenny
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by AdultMovies.bz
                                                                                Lets face it, if the US wasn't invading countries then Iran and other small countries wouldn't feel the need to have nukes... By posessing nukes a country feels safer. Sure, some leaders are crazy and shouldn't be trusted with Nukes, but its not as if Bush is a model of clear thinking is he.
                                                                                The more countries that have nuclear weapons the more of a chance that those weapons will be disturbuted.

                                                                                How hard would it be for some terrorist to hijack some Iranian missle base with inadequate security? Or pay some sympathetic insiders to help?

                                                                                Maybe its not fair to Iran, but its in the United States best interest to keep them from having nuclear weapons.

                                                                                If the day comes when the wrong people get a hold of a nuclear weapon.. on that day every thread like this on the internet will have a answer.

                                                                                When you turn on CNN and see men in contamination suits walking down the streets in New York, placing white flags by radioactive corpses so the incinerators know where to go to burn the millions of bodies.

                                                                                Entire nations will be destroyed if that day ever comes. And that has to be avoided at all cost.
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  you just born now?!?
                                                                                  are you crazy?

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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Icon
                                                                                    **cough** Kyoto **cough cough**
                                                                                    ya thats a solid plan there
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                                                                                    • directfiesta
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by kenny
                                                                                      How hard would it be for some terrorist to hijack some Iranian missle base with inadequate security? Or pay some sympathetic insiders to help?

                                                                                      .
                                                                                      How hard would that be to do in the goold old US of A ???

                                                                                      Don't make me look for a link to post....
                                                                                      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                      • just a punk
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        The only country that CAN'T have nukes is the USA. Many other countries have a nuclear weapon (including all-hated "empire of evil" Russia) but they were too wise to not use it. The only country that has used nukes on people (the innocent people I'd say, because Hiroshima wasn't a military object) was the USA. IMHO the USA + nuclear weapon is the same as monkey with a grenade... nobody knows when a stupid animal blast it.
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                                                                                        • Alex
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                                                                                          #45
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                                                                                          • theking
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                            How hard would that be to do in the goold old US of A ???

                                                                                            Don't make me look for a link to post....
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                                                                                            • directfiesta
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by theking
                                                                                              Yes...look for a link to post. My confidence level is high that you can find some off the wall link...as is SOP for you.
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                                                                                              But this one, starring none other than Halliburton, the company that is NOW dealing in Iran ..LOL , was the most appropriate....

                                                                                              Friday 11 February 2005

                                                                                              WASHINGTON -- A Halliburton Co. shipment of radioactive material went missing in October but the company didn't alert government authorities until this week, Nuclear Regulatory Commission officials said today. The material -- two sources of the element americium, used in oil well exploration -- was found intact Wednesday in Boston after an intense search by federal authorities. NRC and Halliburton officials say the public never was in danger.

                                                                                              http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/021105G.shtml
                                                                                              Good old US of A...sshole.
                                                                                              Last edited by directfiesta; 03-11-2005, 04:02 PM.
                                                                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                Originally posted by Veterans Day
                                                                                                ya thats a solid plan there
                                                                                                yeah...that whole 'environmentalist' thing is a conspiracy. there is no such thing as the ozone, melting icecaps and airborn bacterial virusus. Trees actually suck up all the bloody air, we need to chop those traitorous lumber bastards down as fast as we can! There's no time to waste, burn the next tree you see, if it's in your yard it's your responsabity. Burn the fucker down before it takes all your goddamn air! you need to act fast goddamit...don't sit here reading posts man! Act! Cut the fucker down or burn it before it burns you!!
                                                                                                I'm gonna start burning tires to prove theres no ozone, I'm starting with my neighbour's car and his snot nosed kid's fucking bicycle! goddamn useless thing doesn't even use gas! i gotto burn that mother down! I'm out! please send any extra tires tot he reddish amber glow in the horizon! MOVE goddamit

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                                                                                                  I had some nasty things to say to the USA haters but I am tried and it really would be a waste of time. All I can say is it must suck to be you. I hope things get better for you so you could move on with your lives.


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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by jukeboxfrank
                                                                                                    I had some nasty things to say to the USA haters but I am tried and it really would be a waste of time. All I can say is it must suck to be you. I hope things get better for you so you could move on with your lives.
                                                                                                    Confusion is your world...

                                                                                                    USA haters ????

                                                                                                    You really never got it...
                                                                                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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