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How much does it cost to get a KNOWN sales rep

03-07-2005, 10:08 PM

I tossing around a few idea. What does it cost to get a known sales guy IE a "Tanker" a "Wizzo" a "Dwreck"

Some one who had a rep and can not only post on boards but do actuall affiliate support and one one icq/aol/phone sales

They above examples are just what I saw skimming the board tonight but you know what I mean.
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03-07-2005, 10:10 PM

I'll do it for you for $4k per month. I'm known for my intelligence, therefore not many people know me on gfy, as intelligence is frowned upon. Be different, be unique and hire me as your support rep, and your business shall grow to immense proportions.
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03-07-2005, 10:11 PM

probably not much

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03-07-2005, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by galleryseek

I'll do it for you for $4k per month. I'm known for my intelligence, therefore not many people know me on gfy, as intelligence is frowned upon. Be different, be unique and hire me as your support rep, and your business shall grow to immense proportions.

LOL I was not talking about posters but people who go to shows and have a nice contact list.
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03-07-2005, 10:12 PM

About 10K per month and 3% - 5% of affiliate sales as a bonus?
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03-07-2005, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by beemk

probably not much

Care to speculate some numbers?
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03-07-2005, 10:12 PM

just hire a chick to post on the boards and tickle the nuts of newbies.

hell it dont even really have to be a girl, pick a girl name and pay someone to post

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03-07-2005, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by spunkmaster

About 10K per month and 3% - 5% of affiliate sales as a bonus?

Seems VERY high to me But what do I know
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03-07-2005, 10:14 PM

lolol, this makes me laugh because you will see how cheap some sponsors really are. there are a handful of really good sales reps out there and they have a mix of salary plus comission

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03-07-2005, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

just hire a chick to post on the boards and tickle the nuts of newbies.

hell it dont even really have to be a girl, pick a girl name and pay someone to post

Not sure the newbie nut tickling will do the numbers to make it all worth my time
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03-07-2005, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by spunkmaster

About 10K per month and 3% - 5% of affiliate sales as a bonus?

haha, i would sure hope not. sales reps arent really that hard to come by.

if i hired anyone i would only pay them commission.

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03-07-2005, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by MrIzzz

lolol, this makes me laugh because you will see how cheap some sponsors really are. there are a handful of really good sales reps out there and they have a mix of salary plus comission

Sponsors cheap how? If I was paying someone 100k a year they had better be making me atleast 300k
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03-07-2005, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by beemk

haha, i would sure hope not. sales reps arent really that hard to come by.

if i hired anyone i would only pay them commission.

Also I was not talking about just a sales rep. Im talking about some one with a name and a rep. Someone who does go to shows and does actually help affiliates with helping them make more money with said program.
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03-07-2005, 10:17 PM

after a sales rep has been with more than a few programs their rates come down. Kinda like a girl before she has had sex with the entire football team. Once she does the whole D-Line her rates just came down.
Me, personally, once I see an affiliate manager bounce from program to program i start scratching my head and say hmmmmmm.... Something is fishy here.
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03-07-2005, 10:17 PM

depending on your expectations, i'd charge a small base salary plus commission for part-time work.

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03-07-2005, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by JulianSosa

Also I was not talking about just a sales rep. Im talking about some one with a name and a rep. Someone who does go to shows and does actually help affiliates with helping them make more money with said program.

thats what sales reps do. if they have actual webmaster skills its different though, i'm not sure about wizzo but tanker seems to know a thing or two about running websites from what i've seen. that derek guy on the other hand only seems to know how to post pictures of himself with girls he meets at shows.

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03-07-2005, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by DukeSkywalker

after a sales rep has been with more than a few programs their rates come down. Kinda like a girl before she has had sex with the entire football team. Once she does the whole D-Line her rates just came down.
Me, personally, once I see an affiliate manager bounce from program to program i start scratching my head and say hmmmmmm.... Something is fishy here.
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I agree with you but what if the bounce factor has something to do with the programs that hired them. I have noticed alot of what I would think good sales reps bounce for other reasons.
Also Im I should have prolly not used the term sales rep. Im also including the "director of marketing" and the "COO" in this. (whatever they mean)
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03-07-2005, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by JulianSosa

Sponsors cheap how? If I was paying someone 100k a year they had better be making me atleast 300k

please donte tell me some of these idiots that call themselves "affiliate managers" atually make 100k a year hahaha

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ive never even used an affiliate manager.

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03-07-2005, 10:23 PM

a sales rep will only preform to 50% of what you're capable of yourself - as a general rule.

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03-07-2005, 10:25 PM

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03-07-2005, 10:25 PM

YO YO YO!! thanks for the props buddy! Hit me up on icq I will point you in the right direction!

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03-07-2005, 10:25 PM

Hmmm...is it a sales rep you need or more of a PR person/figurehead who can do face to face meetings and callbacks from collected names and such?

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03-07-2005, 10:25 PM

i think of it like field of dreams. you build it they will come. i think the $ is much better spent on good sites. look at nasty dollars for example. they dont have sales reps yet they are the most promoted program on the internet. they simply dont need sales reps.

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03-07-2005, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Tala

Hmmm...is it a sales rep you need or more of a PR person/figurehead who can do face to face meetings and callbacks from collected names and such?

Both and some one with a big list of contacts/affiliates.
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03-07-2005, 10:33 PM

I demand top dollar. I do everthing from Press Releases,posting, adverstising, phone support, email support, upadate the sites, bring new ideas to the table, I got a sick contact list, a kick ass reputation, html skills, and 4 years experince.

Reps get shit on I know this but it because people think they can hire students to post for 5 bucks an hour.

So not the case. Plus chicks dig me!

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03-07-2005, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

a sales rep will only preform to 50% of what you're capable of yourself - as a general rule.

I guess thats why a base salary plus commision is important. If they work hard themselves they get the commision and if they slack you can tell them that they have specific obligations that need to be met to earn the base salary. I guess it depends on what type of a person they are.
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03-07-2005, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by beemk

i think of it like field of dreams. you build it they will come. i think the $ is much better spent on good sites. look at nasty dollars for example. they dont have sales reps yet they are the most promoted program on the internet. they simply dont need sales reps.

Nastydollars has awesome content but they also have/had the advantage of massive internal traffic to launch anything they want. When you can exit to your paysite from http://www.sublimedirectory.com/ I guess a few webmasters might see it.
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03-07-2005, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by JulianSosa

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03-07-2005, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Dwreck

I demand top dollar. I do everthing from Press Releases,posting, adverstising, phone support, email support, upadate the sites, bring new ideas to the table, I got a sick contact list, a kick ass reputation, html skills, and 4 years experince.

Reps get shit on I know this but it because people think they can hire students to post for 5 bucks an hour.

So not the case. Plus chicks dig me!

What kinda "ballpark" does a guy who so many chicks dig get ?
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03-07-2005, 10:43 PM

It got quiet in here lol
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03-07-2005, 10:46 PM

Whats a sales rep?
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03-07-2005, 10:46 PM

See, to me, there's more to it than just posting and looking cute, (although I have that in spades). I do a great deal of writing, icqing, love to go to the shows to interact and collect business cards, talk to those who give Me the cards and actually have a good time with them. If you can have a good time with potential clients, they'll remember you easily.

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03-07-2005, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by KMR Stitch

Whats a sales rep?

Im not 100% sure but it was a broad question including
"director of marketing" and the "COO"
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03-07-2005, 10:48 PM

i cant post that on a bbs! hit me up

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03-07-2005, 10:49 PM

Julian, how can I contact you?

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03-07-2005, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Dwreck

i cant post that on a bbs! hit me up

NP I understand.
The only real $'s posted so far was $10k a month plus a 3-5% commission. Does anyone else have any input on this? The above figure seems rather high to me.
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03-07-2005, 10:53 PM

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Julian, how can I contact you?

Do you have an email or icq?

This is all still in hypothetical stages. I dont want to get anyones hopes up just shooting around ideas at this point.
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03-07-2005, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by JulianSosa

Do you have an email or icq?

This is all still in hypothetical stages. I dont want to get anyones hopes up just shooting around ideas at this point.

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03-07-2005, 10:56 PM

It really depends on what you need.

If it's a project coordinator, plus someone who handles affiliate problems..knows marketing, helps you with financial planning, keeps you grounded, gives you a face at the shows......pushes your program, manages your affiliates and your sales reps.....posts on the boards, has a name....and is an all in one...minus the actual html skills, which should easily be outsourced, it can be costly.....I don't know if 10k is necessary..but at least 5k plus commission and expenses...

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03-07-2005, 11:01 PM

Tala I sent your icq to my gmail. I will hit you up when I know more about what im going to do about a rep. If you want to mail me about anything here is my email [email protected] Im not on icq right now.
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03-07-2005, 11:02 PM

And what do affiliate managers do? I have come across about a dozen from the top programs on the net over the last 6 years and what do they do? They do sweet fuck all.
Nothing against them, but all they do is give you the answer for questions like "can I use sponsor content for galleries", and "hey, can you please get me another check cut please?". Thats fucking it from what I have come across. And ten grand someone here was mentioning a month for this sort of work? Obviously ok, there are other tasks they do, but from an affiliate point of view, thats all we see, and if asked anything else about suggestions for improving click throughs, galleries etc,? They have no clue. None I have come across anyhow. Maybe I'm missing something.

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03-07-2005, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Raven

It really depends on what you need.

If it's a project coordinator, plus someone who handles affiliate problems..knows marketing, helps you with financial planning, keeps you grounded, gives you a face at the shows......pushes your program, manages your affiliates and your sales reps.....posts on the boards, has a name....and is an all in one...minus the actual html skills, which should easily be outsourced, it can be costly.....I don't know if 10k is necessary..but at least 5k plus commission and expenses...

Contact me. I may know someone, depending on what you need.

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Yes all of the above minus the financial planning and keeping my grounded. I can do that on my own
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03-07-2005, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by JulianSosa

Tala I sent your icq to my gmail. I will hit you up when I know more about what im going to do about a rep. If you want to mail me about anything here is my email [email protected] Im not on icq right now.

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03-07-2005, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Dwreck

i cant post that on a bbs! hit me up

[email protected] what is your Email?
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03-07-2005, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by JulianSosa

[email protected] what is your Email?

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03-07-2005, 11:11 PM

i just cuss people out on ICQ and send all of my contact people new pics of *******

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03-08-2005, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by JulianSosa

NP I understand.
The only real $'s posted so far was $10k a month plus a 3-5% commission. Does anyone else have any input on this? The above figure seems rather high to me.

For sales rep work, $10K a month is a lot. Even $5K a month is a lot. Some sales reps only make commission, nothing else. Those who get commission and salary usually get more than 3-5% as well.

The title of sales rep is very different from Director of Marketing and especially COO. The typical sales recruits new affiliates and helps existing affiliates. A Director of Marketing does more than that.

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03-08-2005, 03:13 AM

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hell it dont even really have to be a girl, pick a girl name and pay someone to post

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03-08-2005, 03:26 AM

my 2 cents : if youre not lookin for a noob then id say take a look at what account or key acc managers make, say 5 yrs experience, at least 10 100k+ contact targets, higher commercial education, html/common pc skills like excel etc, someone who doesnt say errr when you ask bout profits turnover targets and who can read sales figures, emails grabs the phone lookin for new aff etc... hmm say 20-25ish, starting at $5-8k a month plus bonusses

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03-08-2005, 03:33 AM

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