Italian reporter case: read FOREIGN press, US Army is LYING

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  • SmokeyTheBear
    ►SouthOfHeaven
    • Jun 2004
    • 28609
    #51
    Heres a thought you might wanna think about..

    Journalists KNOW they are playing russian roulette by even being in the middle of a war without a gun.

    If you dont want your journalists killed , try not sending them into a war.
    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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      • theking
        Nice Kitty
        • Sep 2002
        • 21053
        #52
        Originally posted by Mojiteaux
        So how come ALL the journalists in the hotel claimed that the US version was not possible. There were no Iraqi troops even near the hotel.
        Another US cover up for killing non-embedded (journalists that don't just write what the US wants then to write) journalists.

        If you add the US prison scandals in Afghanistan, Guantanamo and Iraq it seems like USA is the new USSR.
        You said "ALL the journalists in the hotel claimed that the US version was not possible. How many journalists were in the hotel? How do you know what "ALL" the journalists said?

        Who made the claim that "Iraqi troops"...which is indicative of uniformed troops...fired upon the troops on the ground. How could "ALL" or any of the journalists know if the troops on the ground were fired upon...since they were in the hotel and not with the troops on the ground. How could "ALL" of the journalists be in the same room that the troops received fire from...etc. etc. etc.

        The boots on the ground said they received fire...and the tank commander was told to return the fire...no more than that...period.

        What prison scandals are you referring to. The ones that the US military brought to the forefront in the first place. The ones where the majoritive of those that were prosecuted plead guilty and did not even claim that they were ordered to do what they were charged with...or the ones that could not present a single person that ordered them to do what they were charged with. Or are you referring to the ones where accusations have been made but no proof has been presented.

        Buy a fucking clue.
        When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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          • FunForOne
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2003
            • 8704
            #53
            Does anyone know what kind of newspaper the italian journalists works for?

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              • kenny
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2002
                • 7245
                #54
                Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                Heres a thought you might wanna think about..

                Journalists KNOW they are playing russian roulette by even being in the middle of a war without a gun.

                If you dont want your journalists killed , try not sending them into a war.

                True that.

                Besides what is this like the 8th thread about the exact same thing? We have a bunch of people repeating themselves.
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                  • PMdave
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 1517
                    #55
                    Originally posted by FunForOne
                    Does anyone know what kind of newspaper the italian journalists works for?
                    Communist newspaper

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                      • 69pornlinks
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5560
                        #56
                        Originally posted by damian2001
                        I wonder what she knows?

                        Must be pretty big for the US to risk it..... I doubt we will never know

                        If this is proved I doubt even 'Teflon George' can get away with it.
                        some shit about Fallujah, i'm sure what went down there would ruined some people high up
                        It IS what it IS

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                          • PMdave
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 1517
                            #57
                            Originally posted by 69pornlinks
                            some shit about Fallujah, i'm sure what went down there would ruined some people high up

                            well duh... it's a war. Can't take it? Go and do some reporting from the local playground (although kids can be cruel to)

                            My best bet is that she has been informed by her kidnappers what the real reason behind 9/11 was and that bush and secret services knew it was comming. Seriously I'm 100% sure she will never open her mouth and if she does it will be a good laugh.

                            American journalism isn't the most objective one but most of European reporters aren't objective aswell. Almost every newschannel in the world tells what their audience wants. They need viewers to get the commercials sold to keep the channel going...

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                              • BaldBastard
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 16855
                                #58
                                Obviously they were carrying weapons of mass destruction

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                                  • 12clicks
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 19814
                                    #59
                                    ahahahaha, yeah. she was so dangerous we had to have her killed.

                                    kids and their idiot logic.
                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 28609
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                                        ahahahaha, yeah. she was so dangerous we had to have her killed.

                                        kids and their idiot logic.

                                        and we somehow managed to not kill her, instead treating her and releasing her from a military hospital totally fine.
                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                          • PMdave
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2003
                                            • 1517
                                            #61
                                            her big news? Her kidnappers told her that the US governement didn't want to negotiate about her release or pay the ransom. Jeesh...who would have thought?

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                                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                • Jun 2004
                                                • 28609
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by PMdave
                                                her big news? Her kidnappers told her that the US governement didn't want to negotiate about her release or pay the ransom. Jeesh...who would have thought?
                                                I guess thats why a coalition member was the one to break the news about the ransom , and not the italian commies.

                                                Do you think this lady uses her brain from time to time. If the usa didnt want to let people know about the ransom , why were they the ones to tell them media. If she really felt that was the reason why did she not say that. She says it now AFTER we already know about the ransom..
                                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                  • PMdave
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                    • 1517
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                    I guess thats why a coalition member was the one to break the news about the ransom , and not the italian commies.

                                                    Do you think this lady uses her brain from time to time. If the usa didnt want to let people know about the ransom , why were they the ones to tell them media. If she really felt that was the reason why did she not say that. She says it now AFTER we already know about the ransom..
                                                    See? That's the difference. Apperently US media are saying there was a ransom paid while European media are saying that the us will never agree with a ransom.
                                                    I must ad that she told this yesterday to a french newspaper. So maybe she said it before the coalition member? don't know, don't care. But paying a ransom in cases like this is the most stupid thing possible:
                                                    a/ you financially support terrortistic networks
                                                    b/ you bring crazy ideas to earn some money in deperate peoples heads (especially when they have just lost their house, job, everything they owed because of a war)

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                                                      • Pleasurepays
                                                        BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 11913
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by PMdave
                                                        See? That's the difference. Apperently US media are saying there was a ransom paid while European media are saying that the us will never agree with a ransom.
                                                        I must ad that she told this yesterday to a french newspaper. So maybe she said it before the coalition member? don't know, don't care. But paying a ransom in cases like this is the most stupid thing possible:
                                                        a/ you financially support terrortistic networks
                                                        b/ you bring crazy ideas to earn some money in deperate peoples heads (especially when they have just lost their house, job, everything they owed because of a war)
                                                        it was said in the early reports that ITALY paid a $1,000,000.00 ransom... not the US.

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                                                          • Workshop_Willy
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                            • 452
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Evil Jawa
                                                            The italians DID inform the "coalition forces", it was NOT a checkpoint, they DID NOT ignore warnings, they WERE NOT speeding and THE JOURNALIST HAD COMPROMISING INFORMATION ABOUT THE US OPERATIONS IN IRAQ.

                                                            "Giuliana had informations and the US military didn't want her alive", said Sgrena's husband and workmate.

                                                            http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2005/0...110029269.html


                                                            "They were 700 meters (yards) from the airport, which means that they had passed all checkpoints."

                                                            The shooting late Friday was witnessed by Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's office which was on the phone with one of the secret service agents, said Scolari. "Then the US military silenced the cellphones," he charged. (More ..)

                                                            http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=38029

                                                            Shit, here we go again. These quotes are among the first that came out about the situation, and this version of events was toned down by Sgrena herself:

                                                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=440878

                                                            And lets not forget that turkishpress.com is every bit as suspect as American press outlets, as they will side with Muslim interests. That's not an accusation, but it's at least as valid as your point.

                                                            In the future try to keep up, will you?
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                                                              • mardigras
                                                                Bon temps!
                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                • 14194
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by FunForOne
                                                                Does anyone know what kind of newspaper the italian journalists works for?
                                                                IL Manisfesto

                                                                English translation through Google
                                                                .

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                                                                  • mardigras
                                                                    Bon temps!
                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                    • 14194
                                                                    #67
                                                                    She's posted an English version of her story on their website
                                                                    http://www.ilmanifesto.it/pag/sgrena/en/
                                                                    .

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                                                                      • PMdave
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                        • 1517
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                        it was said in the early reports that ITALY paid a $1,000,000.00 ransom... not the US.
                                                                        Thats what I said: US didn't agree
                                                                        but oh wait...pieces of the puzzle are all falling in place now....
                                                                        Us didn't agree with Italy paying the ransom and to show Italy who's in charge they tried to kill her but messed up!

                                                                        Crazy bitch thinks that her arse is the center of the universe.
                                                                        Last edited by PMdave; 03-07-2005, 04:01 PM. Reason: spelling

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                                                                          • Workshop_Willy
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                                            • 452
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                            IL Manisfesto

                                                                            English translation through Google

                                                                            The driver twice called the embassy and in Italy that we were heading towards the airport that I knew was heavily patrolled by U.S. troops. They told me that we were less than a kilometer away...when...I only remember fire. At that point, a rain of fire and bullets hit us, shutting up forever the cheerful voices of a few minutes earlier.
                                                                            She doesn't say anything here one way or another as to what they were approaching. Poor translation? I really want to hear a detailed account from her driver. He would be the only one alive who could state categorically whether or not they were approaching either a patrol or checkpoint. So far I haven't seen anything of the kind. Does anyone have a link to a detailed account of his story?
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